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Posted June 20, 2016
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Falkenherz: I’m not saying that they should scrap all the old content and only teach real life basics instead. Some basic knowledge in history, literature, biology, physics, math, and so on to understand how the world works and to help one find the field of expertise that one could imagine oneself to work in later is important. But halfing the amount of classics you have to read and instead tell you something about the status quo of the systems of our society can’t be wrong. Sure, you can ask your parents, but their knowlegde in those regards is as limited as the box they themselves live in.
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morolf: If you put it like that, I can sort of agree....though I don't recall having read that many classics in school (but neither did I learn much of practical use there :-)
We had an English class every year. Once we hit the last 6 years, all they covered was literary analysis/classics. Did I enjoy 6 years of reading literature? Sure, I love reading. Crime and Punishment is one of my favorite books, and I love Nikolai Gogol's work, though I also read YA books from time to time (they can often be better written and more thematically defined than much adult "literature"). Did it help me? No, not really. My last two years were helpful for learning to write term papers and such for college, but learning to analyze poetry doesn't help me in my field of study, nor does reading Faulkner give me any benefit other than knowing how seriously fucked he could be.
Posted June 20, 2016
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KingofGnG: unfuckable cunts
cockblocking cunts
You're kind of making a case for their cause if the only value you have on women is whether or not you can have sex with them.
Post edited June 20, 2016 by zeogold
Posted June 21, 2016
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Elmofongo: I'm just getting tired of modern disney movies general unless they make a Fantasia 3.
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nipsen: :) same here. Walt wanted to make a new one every couple of years, apparently.
I especially want to feel and cry at something like this again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0a5-7Ykr3w

No amount of drama Zootopia and Frozen offers can match the majesty of Fantasia's best sequences.

The Firebird.

The Sorcerer's Aprentice

Night on Bald Mountain

Rhapsody in Blue

The Toccata and Fugue.

And my personal favorite, The Rite of Spring.
Post edited June 21, 2016 by Elmofongo
Posted June 21, 2016
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nipsen: :) same here. Walt wanted to make a new one every couple of years, apparently.
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Elmofongo: I especially want to feel and cry at something like this again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0a5-7Ykr3w

No amount of drama Zootopia and Frozen offers can match the majesty of Fantasia's best sequences.

The Firebird.

Night on Bald Mountain

Rhapsody in Blue

The Toccata and Fugue.

And my personal favorite, The Rite of Spring.
Seeing as you seem to like Rite of Spring, here is an interesting question:

Do you personally know anyone who can play the bassoon solo (on a bassoon, of course) at the start of the piece? (Yes, that is a bassoon at the start.)

Firebird also has a big bassoon solo in the second to last movement (though I don't know if Fantasia's version includes that part).
Posted June 21, 2016
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Elmofongo: I especially want to feel and cry at something like this again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0a5-7Ykr3w

No amount of drama Zootopia and Frozen offers can match the majesty of Fantasia's best sequences.

The Firebird.

Night on Bald Mountain

Rhapsody in Blue

The Toccata and Fugue.

And my personal favorite, The Rite of Spring.
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dtgreene: Seeing as you seem to like Rite of Spring, here is an interesting question:

Do you personally know anyone who can play the bassoon solo (on a bassoon, of course) at the start of the piece? (Yes, that is a bassoon at the start.)

Firebird also has a big bassoon solo in the second to last movement (though I don't know if Fantasia's version includes that part).
I may love the music but I don't know any musicians personally, and classical music ones are even more difficult to a make friend out of.


But curiously why do you ask?
Posted June 21, 2016
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zeogold: You're kind of making a case for their cause if the only value you have on women is whether or not you can have sex with them.
Hyperbole. And there is no "them", just a bunch of Internet losers screaming their virtual bullshit on social networks like they were worth 2 cents of anything.
Posted June 21, 2016
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dtgreene: Seeing as you seem to like Rite of Spring, here is an interesting question:

Do you personally know anyone who can play the bassoon solo (on a bassoon, of course) at the start of the piece? (Yes, that is a bassoon at the start.)

Firebird also has a big bassoon solo in the second to last movement (though I don't know if Fantasia's version includes that part).
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Elmofongo: I may love the music but I don't know any musicians personally, and classical music ones are even more difficult to a make friend out of.

But curiously why do you ask?
I play the bassoon. (Not professionally; I just play in a few community bands.)

Incidentally, I can play the Rite of Spring solo (to some degree, not good enough for an audition), provided that I am playing on a suitable reed (the reed needs to be hard enough; soft reeds, while great for low notes, will not work for the infamous high notes in the Rite of Spring intro).
Posted June 21, 2016
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Elmofongo: I may love the music but I don't know any musicians personally, and classical music ones are even more difficult to a make friend out of.

But curiously why do you ask?
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dtgreene: I play the bassoon. (Not professionally; I just play in a few community bands.)

Incidentally, I can play the Rite of Spring solo (to some degree, not good enough for an audition), provided that I am playing on a suitable reed (the reed needs to be hard enough; soft reeds, while great for low notes, will not work for the infamous high notes in the Rite of Spring intro).
I have heard from Leonard Berstein that that beginning of the bassoon note is increadibly difficult.

But also let me say this, you must have heard of many different symphonies conducting this piece. Have you ever heard of this one conducted by Yoel Levi and the Atlantic Symphony Orchestra:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFPjFjUonX8

I am hoping to get a CD of this version of the piece because its perhaps the best sounding and played version of this piece I have ever heard, and I have heard many.
Posted June 21, 2016
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tort1234: Unfortunately, now we can't expect movies of that caliber from Dinsey as they have gone full feminist and political correctness mode.

Japanese anime on the other hand like Nausicca: Valley of the wind or any other anime film directed by Hayao Miyazaki are timeless classics and blow away any of the modern garbage Disney is producing.
You do know Miyazaki is a self-proclaimed feminist and has been widely praised as such by feminist writers, right?
Posted June 21, 2016
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tort1234: Unfortunately, now we can't expect movies of that caliber from Dinsey as they have gone full feminist and political correctness mode.

Japanese anime on the other hand like Nausicca: Valley of the wind or any other anime film directed by Hayao Miyazaki are timeless classics and blow away any of the modern garbage Disney is producing.
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ydobemos: You do know Miyazaki is a self-proclaimed feminist and has been widely praised as such by feminist writers, right?
Maybe Miyazaki is a true feminist that actually believe in equality? His movies does not seem to bash men for women to shine.

Unlike other extremist feminist that seems to be the majority in the west, they need to bash men to show how empowered they are. *cough star wars *cough han solo.
Posted June 21, 2016
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Gnostic: Unlike other extremist feminist that seems to be the majority in the west, they need to bash men to show how empowered they are. *cough star wars *cough han solo.
Fuck's sake... shit as Force Awakens was... what are you even talking about? Are there some meds you should be taking? How was anything in that movie bashing on Han Solo? Because he died? I guess the original Star Wars movie was bashing on old people, and Wrath of Khan was bashing on Vulcans. How did his death have anything to do with feminists? Is Kylo Ren a feminist? I guess Harrison Ford is a extrimist feminist- he wanted Solo dead since Empire Strikes Back. What the fuck, I don't even...
Post edited June 21, 2016 by Breja
Posted June 21, 2016
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ydobemos: You do know Miyazaki is a self-proclaimed feminist and has been widely praised as such by feminist writers, right?
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Gnostic: Maybe Miyazaki is a true feminist that actually believe in equality? His movies does not seem to bash men for women to shine.

Unlike other extremist feminist that seems to be the majority in the west, they need to bash men to show how empowered they are. *cough star wars *cough han solo.
If his movies reflect his take on feminism It would seem to be more of an egalitarian form as opposed to the "female supremacist" style that I've seen all to often online
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Breja:
from what I can tell the "issue" with force awakens is that "Rey" is too much of a "Mary Sue" for many people. as an untrained force user she apparently is to perfect for many to relate to. (knows more a bout the falcon than Solo & can best Kylo ren in areas he is trained in).
Post edited June 21, 2016 by Rusty_Gunn
Posted June 21, 2016
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Rusty_Gunn: from what I can tell the "issue" with force awakens is that "Rey" is too much of a "Mary Sue" for many people. as an untrained force user she apparently is to perfect for many to relate to. (knows more a bout the falcon than Solo & can best Kylo ren in areas he is trained in).
Yeah, I know all that and I even agree with a lot of it, just that I see it as poor writing and not feminist conspiracy. I'm pretty sure most people decide whether a female character is a bad ass hero or a terrible Mary Sue based on how big her tits are (Lara Croft- badass hero, Rey-Mary Sue).

I only replied here because, regardless of whether we ascribe the problems with Rey to bad writing or TheProtocols of the Elders of Feminism, I still have no idea where the bashing of men is in that movie, and how Han Solo factors into that. I've gotten used to the panicked screams of "Rey is a feminist monstrosity" (tremendously annoying though they are, obscuring the real problems of the movie), but this is a new angle on it that genuinely baffled me.
Post edited June 21, 2016 by Breja
Posted June 21, 2016
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Breja: Yeah, I know all that and I even agree with a lot of it, just that I see it as poor writing and not feminist conspiracy. I'm pretty sure most people decide whether a female character is a bad ass hero or a terrible Mary Sue based on how big her tits are (Lara Croft- badass hero, Rey-Mary Sue).
I'm going to disagree that physical attributes indicate what group the character falls into. Otherwise Ripley of Aliens by your rule would be a "Mary Sue" as well & I don't see her as such. she let it be known she had "loader" training but she asked about the marines' guns when she wanted to rescue "Newt" not told them about their own gear.

Plus I see Lara Croft as a very trained individual so for that she leans more bad-ass than sue for me
Post edited June 21, 2016 by Rusty_Gunn
Posted June 21, 2016
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KingofGnG: Hyperbole. And there is no "them", just a bunch of Internet losers screaming their virtual bullshit on social networks like they were worth 2 cents of anything.
Oh, the irony.
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