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Post edited August 12, 2018 by fr33kSh0w2012
It's probably better to wait at least until the new Nvidia GPUs will be out, in a month or two. AMD will supposedly launch their new GPUs around spring time and there are some speculations that memory prices will start to go down at the beginning of 2019. At the moment, memory is still the most overpriced, but video cards are closer to MSRP in many places.
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misteryo: In that case

a newer i5 for 250
a 1070 for 400
a new mobo for 120
16 GB DDR4 RAM for 160
Total - 930
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KneeTheCap: Can you give some examples for the motherboard and cpu?
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WinterSnowfall: Your current rig looks more than decent to me.

Framerate issues with newer games might be caused by poor optimization of those games, a common problem nowadays which tends to get better as patches start rolling out... perhaps you should also consider reading through some setting optimization guides for said games - sometimes there are a few settings that choke your GPU when activated and don't provide as much of a visual impact as it's advertised.

You could let's say in theory get a better GPU like the 1080/1080 Ti, but they're still rather expensive at the moment in bulk (yeah, cryptominers as usual).
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KneeTheCap: I was never really any good with setting up... settings :D
Not really, because you live in Finland. I have no idea what your supply or prices are. The list I just put up is prices I can get in the US. I hope somebody more local to you can give you some ideas.

Better yet, though, you can do some shopping and put some ideas out here and people can thumbs up/down them.
Your best bet would be on upgrading the whole base. So motherboard, RAM (16 GB is fine butDDR3 is very old) and CPU (i7 recommended).

GPU-wise, I have a 780 in my rig and I still usually hit 60 FPS in most games. But recently with new games like The Surge, I started dipping below that (but never below 40).

So your GPU should be fine. Definitely not future-proof, but if you are going to stay at 1920x1080 @60FPS, it should be enough for a while longer. 970 is a bit faster than my 780. Have your tried overclocking it a bit? That could help squeeze out a few more frames.

A new GPU would improve your FPS the most, but you don't want to bottleneck it by using slow RAM and CPU.

However, I would not buy a new GPU now. We have a few milestones ahead of us in the not so distant future. New Nvidias are just around the corner and DDR5 should come sometime in 2019. At least wait for the GPUs, it should lower the prices across the board (hopefully).
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KneeTheCap: Can you give some examples for the motherboard and cpu?

I was never really any good with setting up... settings :D
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misteryo: Not really, because you live in Finland. I have no idea what your supply or prices are. The list I just put up is prices I can get in the US. I hope somebody more local to you can give you some ideas.

Better yet, though, you can do some shopping and put some ideas out here and people can thumbs up/down them.
I don't think the prices will wary that much. I'm just way out of the loop when it comes with these processors as it's been over 5 years since I bought my last one :D

Just don't worry about the price (as long as it's under, let's say, 300-400 dollars) and give me examples to look at :D


Edit. i5-8400 seems to be a decent one, right?
Post edited August 13, 2018 by KneeTheCap
the problem the OP posted about newer games being the problem are probably at least partly due to the GPU's age. I would suggest getting a new 1 as those games need more than 4 GB VRAM. If you can afford it, a GTX 1080. If not, something with at least 6 GB. The problem is poor optimization and low VRAM.
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wizisi2k: the problem the OP posted about newer games being the problem are probably at least partly due to the GPU's age. I would suggest getting a new 1 as those games need more than 4 GB VRAM. If you can afford it, a GTX 1080. If not, something with at least 6 GB. The problem is poor optimization and low VRAM.
I got a decent deal for 1070 Ti, so I bought that. I wonder if that's enough :D
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KneeTheCap: I got a decent deal for 1070 Ti, so I bought that. I wonder if that's enough :D
As long as you're not looking for 4K 144Hz gaming, sure. It's more than enough for a 1080p 60/75Hz setup ;).
I do not know what kind of games that you play but if a nVidia GTX970 is not good enough so you think that you need a newer GPU then you probably play games that requires would also require a better CPU also... (?)
Anyway , like you then I prefer Intel CPU and nVidia GPU , but I personally do not understand the budget choice of i5 over i7 if building a new PC , surely you will save some money but looking at the greater picture and how much money one spends then I wouldn't buy i5 , though you have probably been happy with yours , I would go with an i7 like one of these :
https://www.newegg.com/global/fi/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100779907%2050001157%20601295136%20601304866&Manufactory=1157

on a suitable quality board of your choice , that will require new RAMs also I think

Then of course whatever nVidia GPU that you think is needed....

Personally find the weak point of your present PC is the CPU and not so much the GPU , but you may play a lot of FPS games at high frame rates and so on and I don't , and if I play anything resembling FPS games then I play at lower resolutions than many other people and lower frame rates .
(My present setup is an i7 (6700 Skylake generation) and a GTX 760 with 4GB RAM)
(my only reason for not buying the 6700K and a GTX 770/780 back then were the higher power consumption , I looked at the electricity bill and went for the lower daily costs since I tend to have my PC running many hours day in and day out , had I been able to find a "green version" of the GTX770 back then I would have bought that instead - most people will find choices odd however I do not care , I am happy with my PC and do not consider upgrading it before I want to play any games that would warrant it. One ought to buy CPU and graphics card tailored to own preferences more than to others and I personally tend to emphasize CPU power more than GPU power)
Honestly you should go towwards an entire new build. My preference at this time would be a Ryzen chip with more cores. If you want to stream games or do anything really demanding while gaming on high settings you will need more than 4 cores now if you dont like low FPS and stuttering. Also the GFX card prices are out of whack right now as others have said. Wait til' the artificial price spikes are over based on miners buying the cards up. I think now is the time to go back to AMD and their new Ryzen chips. Look for a revised edition that has any major quirks worked out of the chip, and also 8 cores. Get a good big closed loop RAD, and juicer' up. Of course AMD in the past has had driver issues, so read up on the current quality.

Nvidia has their new cards coming out soon, but Nvidia also ripped people off with one of their cards having a GB less of usable VRAM than was advertised. Go AMD. To bad EVGA doesnt make Radeons. Yet?
Post edited August 15, 2018 by mastro_akq
Don't bother "upgrading".

Your rig can play just about every game near max settings while recording.
The only benefit you can get from upgrading is for various artistic purposes, 4K resolutions and VR.

If you are just playing games at 1080p 60fps then do yourself a favor and stick to your current rig until the CPU or GPU breaks. Your rig will easily last another 4 or 5 years, even if another console gen rolls around soon. Save your cash for when 8K starts being a thing in games.
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cratefor: Don't bother "upgrading".

Your rig can play just about every game near max settings while recording.
The only benefit you can get from upgrading is for various artistic purposes, 4K resolutions and VR.

If you are just playing games at 1080p 60fps then do yourself a favor and stick to your current rig until the CPU or GPU breaks. Your rig will easily last another 4 or 5 years, even if another console gen rolls around soon. Save your cash for when 8K starts being a thing in games.
8K lol, even 4K is already an overkill, unless you get to retarded monitor sizes like 32 inchers. For any normal gaming (non VR), like sitting in front of your display in a chair, 2560x1440 at a 24 or 27 inch monitor is easily enough. All increasing resolution does after that is killing your frame rate for little to no gain in visual quality.

I really don't understand this craze with bigger and bigger resolutions lately. All it does is cause UI scaling issues in both games and Windows alike, killing your performance and straining your hardware. It has become a perpetual chase after bigger and bigger numbers for the sake of marketing. Displays are starting to cost more that the entire PCs which is insane.

That aside, with this mentality, he could be waiting forever.
Post edited August 15, 2018 by idbeholdME
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cratefor: Don't bother "upgrading".

Your rig can play just about every game near max settings while recording.
The only benefit you can get from upgrading is for various artistic purposes, 4K resolutions and VR.

If you are just playing games at 1080p 60fps then do yourself a favor and stick to your current rig until the CPU or GPU breaks. Your rig will easily last another 4 or 5 years, even if another console gen rolls around soon. Save your cash for when 8K starts being a thing in games.
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idbeholdME: 8K lol, even 4K is already an overkill, unless you get to retarded monitor sizes like 32 inchers. For any normal gaming (non VR), like sitting in front of your display in a chair, 2560x1440 at a 24 or 27 inch monitor is easily enough. All increasing resolution does after that is killing your frame rate for little to no gain in visual quality.

I really don't understand this craze with bigger and bigger resolutions lately. All it does is cause UI scaling issues in both games and Windows alike, killing your performance and straining your hardware. It has become a perpetual chase after bigger and bigger numbers for the sake of marketing. Displays are starting to cost more that the entire PCs which is insane.

That aside, with this mentality, he could be waiting forever.
There's no where to go but up.
You talk about obsession with resolution even tho I told him to wait 4 or 5 years, consoles will be doing 4K and 8K on PC will be the new bell and whistle that devs give some real attention to by that time.
Going from 1080p on a 970 to 8K will be a very, very contrasting experience.
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idbeholdME: 8K lol, even 4K is already an overkill, unless you get to retarded monitor sizes like 32 inchers. For any normal gaming (non VR), like sitting in front of your display in a chair, 2560x1440 at a 24 or 27 inch monitor is easily enough. All increasing resolution does after that is killing your frame rate for little to no gain in visual quality.

I really don't understand this craze with bigger and bigger resolutions lately. All it does is cause UI scaling issues in both games and Windows alike, killing your performance and straining your hardware. It has become a perpetual chase after bigger and bigger numbers for the sake of marketing. Displays are starting to cost more that the entire PCs which is insane.

That aside, with this mentality, he could be waiting forever.
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cratefor: There's no where to go but up.
You talk about obsession with resolution even tho I told him to wait 4 or 5 years, consoles will be doing 4K and 8K on PC will be the new bell and whistle that devs give some real attention to by that time.
Going from 1080p on a 970 to 8K will be a very, very contrasting experience.
It will go up, yes, but I'm just saying that gaming on a 30+ inch display is not to everybody's comfort. I personally already feel that 27 is right on the edge of being too big for gaming. And squeezing 4K or 8K into anything smaller is just a waste of resources. People will still buy it because they want to have the "hip" resolution even though it will give them little to no benefit.

These super high resolutions have their uses, I just feel that it is not in PC gaming.
Post edited August 15, 2018 by idbeholdME
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idbeholdME: People will still buy it because they want to have the "hip" resolution even though it will give them little to no benefit.
People once said the same about indoor plumbing.
"Resolution" (=ignorance, we're talking about dpi here) will be enough once someone can't differentiate individual pixels anymore. I can still see them on my 27" 2560x1440 - but for the moment it's a good enough compromise.
Post edited August 15, 2018 by teceem