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Posted August 26, 2019
I am considering buying a new monitor lately, because I would like something bigger and with better picture quality.

Currently I am using Samsung SA950, which goes back to the days when stereoscopic 3D was a hot thing.
This is a 27inch 1920x0180 LED (TN) monitor with 120Hz refresh rate, static contrast 1,000:1, brightness of 300 cd/m² and glossy screen.
I have to admit, that I love stereoscopic 3D and this is why I am still using it and having a lot of fun.
Also I am pleased with picture quality: good brighntess and colors.
However, glossy screen makes it almost unusable for gaming in an even fairly bright room.
Another problem is that support for stereoscopic 3D (Tridef software) has been discontinued and 3D profiles for new
games are no longer released. Finally, I find black picture a bit lacking, feels to bright.

I am thinking about Samsung C32HG70QQUX, which costs around 550 EUR.
It has a curved non-glossy screen, Quantum Dot technology, 31,5 inch 2560x1440 LED (VA) monitor with 144Hx refresh rate, static contrast of 3,000:1
and I think similar brightness as the one I am using now.
It supports Freesync, and I think some form of HDR, but of course does not come with stereoscopic 3D (I guess noone makes them anymore).

My PC is running on Core i7 3770K, 16GB RAM, AMD RX570 8GB VRAM.
I play everything maxed out Full HD no problem, but I guess jumping to big resulotion can decrease my framerate substantially.
And then when I consider that the new model is 144Hz and I would play in - let's say - ~60 FPS - does that make much sense?

My main question: Would I feel the difference? Because I think that if I bought it and there wouldn't be a "wow" effect, then it's not worth it.
Another thing is that I want to keep the old one for the sake of stereo 3D, so keeping two of them would require more space and I can't complain that I have
too much space available in my apartment right now.

Can you give me some advice?
Thanks!
Posted August 26, 2019
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inc09nito: Another thing is that I want to keep the old one for the sake of stereo 3D, so keeping two of them would require more space and I can't complain that I have too much space available in my apartment right now.

Can you give me some advice?
Sure - get a bigger apartment. ;)
Posted August 26, 2019
Getting something significantly better will cost you a lot. There are anti-glare screens you can put on top of your monitor. They are cheap but not terribly good.
Posted August 26, 2019
Depends on what facilitates the wow effect for you when it comes to displays. Size? Refesh rate? PPI?

Jumping from 1080p to 1440p is a big performance hit. With those specs I doubt you would use much of that 60+ refresh rate in new/moderately old titles. I have a 24 inch 1440p 165 Hz G-Sync TN display and a GTX 1080 Ti feels about right to make an adequate use of it. It requires some pretty serious horse power to drive it to its full potential. If you are used to running everything at ~100 FPS currently, expect to receive a big hit. But if you play mostly older or non-demanding games, then no issue there.

VA panels also have some of the biggest response times so if you are used to the speed of a TN, you might notice a difference. Especially in fast paced games if you play any.

1440p is definitely the current sweet spot for me. 4k tanks way too many frames to be useful yet and 1080p does not look good to me on anything bigger than 22 inches.

EDIT:
My current monitor is Dell S2417DG.
Post edited August 26, 2019 by idbeholdME
Posted August 26, 2019
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inc09nito: I am considering buying a new monitor lately, because I would like something bigger and with better picture quality.

Currently I am using Samsung SA950, which goes back to the days when stereoscopic 3D was a hot thing.
This is a 27inch 1920x0180 LED (TN) monitor with 120Hz refresh rate, static contrast 1,000:1, brightness of 300 cd/m² and glossy screen.
I have to admit, that I love stereoscopic 3D and this is why I am still using it and having a lot of fun.
Also I am pleased with picture quality: good brighntess and colors.
However, glossy screen makes it almost unusable for gaming in an even fairly bright room.
Another problem is that support for stereoscopic 3D (Tridef software) has been discontinued and 3D profiles for new
games are no longer released. Finally, I find black picture a bit lacking, feels to bright.

I am thinking about Samsung C32HG70QQUX, which costs around 550 EUR.
It has a curved non-glossy screen, Quantum Dot technology, 31,5 inch 2560x1440 LED (VA) monitor with 144Hx refresh rate, static contrast of 3,000:1
and I think similar brightness as the one I am using now.
It supports Freesync, and I think some form of HDR, but of course does not come with stereoscopic 3D (I guess noone makes them anymore).

My PC is running on Core i7 3770K, 16GB RAM, AMD RX570 8GB VRAM.
I play everything maxed out Full HD no problem, but I guess jumping to big resulotion can decrease my framerate substantially.
And then when I consider that the new model is 144Hz and I would play in - let's say - ~60 FPS - does that make much sense?

My main question: Would I feel the difference? Because I think that if I bought it and there wouldn't be a "wow" effect, then it's not worth it.
Another thing is that I want to keep the old one for the sake of stereo 3D, so keeping two of them would require more space and I can't complain that I have
too much space available in my apartment right now.

Can you give me some advice?
Thanks!
Do NOT buy an IPS monitor
Samsung monitors are over priced horse excrement

If you can get MSI Optix MPG341CQR for a Little more

MSI’s hot new 34-inch gaming monitor

Screen size: 34-inch | Aspect ratio: 21:9 | Resolution: 3,440 x 1,440 | Brightness: 400 nits | Refresh rate: 144Hz | Response time: 1ms | Viewing angle: 178/178 | Contrast ratio: 3000:1 | Color support: sRGB 105% | Weight: 21.16 pounds

Also it's €869.16¢

It's dead sexeh!

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/zrrAqVrRYzFCxTBryPd2kc-650-80.jpg

review here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzGC8EHqXi8
Post edited August 26, 2019 by fr33kSh0w2012
Posted August 26, 2019
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fr33kSh0w2012: Do NOT buy an IPS monitor
Samsung monitors are over priced horse excrement

If you can get MSI Optix MPG341CQR for a Little more

MSI’s hot new 34-inch gaming monitor

Screen size: 34-inch | Aspect ratio: 21:9 | Resolution: 3,440 x 1,440 | Brightness: 400 nits | Refresh rate: 144Hz | Response time: 1ms | Viewing angle: 178/178 | Contrast ratio: 3000:1 | Color support: sRGB 105% | Weight: 21.16 pounds

Also it's €869.16¢

It's dead sexeh!

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/zrrAqVrRYzFCxTBryPd2kc-650-80.jpg

review here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzGC8EHqXi8
VA has better contrast than IPS.
IPS has better colors than VA.

There's no reason to advise against IPS in general.
Posted August 26, 2019
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teceem: There's no reason to advise against IPS in general.
There is one major. The infamous IPS lottery. The backlight bleeding/glow is a serious issue. You could get lucky and land a good one on your first attempt, or you might return 5 of them and still have a terrible one.
Post edited August 26, 2019 by idbeholdME
Posted August 26, 2019
The picture on this one is incredible!
It doesn't even look like a picture; it looks like the cat is actually there!


BUT on a serious note, I've noticed monitors can be a little more forgiving, but then maybe I'm showing my age (I grew up with a monochrome Apple//).
I've had less expensive monitors and more expensive monitors, and while there was a difference, it wasn't as vast as say, a less expensive video card over a more expensive card, which can totally ruin, or make a computer.
Posted August 26, 2019
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idbeholdME: There is one major. The infamous IPS lottery. The backlight bleeding/glow is a serious issue. You could get lucky and land a good one on your first attempt, or you might return 5 of them and still have a terrible one.
It's an issue but it's not as dramatic as the online hysteria suggests (as is often the case - people with no problems aren't vocal about their lack of problem).
Posted August 26, 2019
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tinyE: BUT on a serious note, I've noticed monitors can be a little more forgiving, but then maybe I'm showing my age (I grew up with a monochrome Apple//).
I've had less expensive monitors and more expensive monitors, and while there was a difference, it wasn't as vast as say, a less expensive video card over a more expensive card, which can totally ruin, or make a computer.
Yep Apple//E

Now there's the image

We had these in 3rd class at my school.

Seriously, That school was cheap.
Post edited August 26, 2019 by fr33kSh0w2012
Posted August 26, 2019
Thanks for replies so far.

I think I should add one comment. I don't think I want to go above 2560x1440 resolution for the very reasons discussed here - especially what idbeholdME said . So I can definitely consider different brand than Samsung - I do not have a problem with that, it's just that I do not want to go too big with resolution, because I am not willing to upgrade other parts of my PC yet. Going 4K or ultra wide requires some serious investments. And I still do play a lot of old games, so it does not really feel worthy.
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idbeholdME: Depends on what facilitates the wow effect for you when it comes to displays. Size? Refesh rate? PPI?
I think the screen size mostly. I do not really need much above 60FPS to feel good. Also good colors, especially black would be nice, because I do play a lot of dark games and I mostly play at night (is that what VA panels do good??)
I wonder if playing on curved screen would add to effect, but I am rather sceptic - probably it's just another trick to make people buy new stuff ;)

To be honest, Ideal thing for me would be some kind of VR-like monitor. I am not a huge fan of VR overall, but that one thing felt amazing when using VR (I had some experience with Oculus), that the screen has no border, I see no room, no window, nothing - game is all around me. But from what I read about VR, it's not really that good in converting regular games onto VR lenses, I guess it's just not that simple in many cases.
Posted August 26, 2019
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inc09nito: I think the screen size mostly. I do not really need much above 60FPS to feel good. Also good colors, especially black would be nice, because I do play a lot of dark games and I mostly play at night (is that what VA panels do good??)
I wonder if playing on curved screen would add to effect, but I am rather sceptic - probably it's just another trick to make people buy new stuff ;)
I personally don't see the appeal of curved but to each his own. Some people say it helps their immersion, but it's not something for me because of the fact that curved is usually present only on larger displays. Meaning I'd have to move my head around and not just eyes to be able to see things towards the edges of the screen which is exactly what I want to avoid. I already feel like 24 inches is close to the limit of what I would prefer, 27 would be pushing it VERY hard for me. Plus I prefer the extra PPI over the screen estate. You wouldn't believe how crisp QHD on a 24 incher looks. But it all depends on your sitting distance and preferences. If it is the screen size you want, I'd say go for it.

VA panels are indeed regarded as the best ones to handle blacks if that is the main thing you want. Just keep in mind what I said about fast paced games with quick mouse movements etc. Ghosting or smearing is very likely to appear on VAs at least to some degree in such scenarios as they have response times usually much higher than the the usual 4ms on IPS or 1ms on TN. That is by far the biggest negative of VA panels.
Posted August 26, 2019
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idbeholdME: ..
It probably depends on how far you sit from it. I sit around 120cm from mine at home, comparing to work, where it's probably half that distance. So I think I would not be able to appreciate QHD on 24inch at home (correct me if I'm wrong here).

As for response time, this part indeed worries me. This may be a problem...
Posted August 26, 2019
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idbeholdME: ..
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inc09nito: It probably depends on how far you sit from it. I sit around 120cm from mine at home, comparing to work, where it's probably half that distance. So I think I would not be able to appreciate QHD on 24inch at home (correct me if I'm wrong here).

As for response time, this part indeed worries me. This may be a problem...
Yes, I sit pretty close , I'd say between 60-70cm. I was by no means suggesting you get a 24 inch monitor. Especially considering you sit 120cm away. I was just stating my preferences. The 32 inches should be absolutely fine at this distance.

And regarding the response time, you should check some reviews of the monitor. They usually state how bad or noticeable it is. I was talking about VAs in general. As with everything, there are bad ones and OK ones for gaming.
Posted August 26, 2019
There are some amazing VA monitors at amazingly high prices.
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