Let me start with i loath microsoft, its to the point with them i cant tell if i have a virus or they installed something. Anyways I finally tried linux, and i gotta say i couldnt handle it lol. It took me 4 hours just to get to trying to figure out how to make the graphics card work, which is a 2070 super. It never did work right. Which most of it was because all the guides just assume you know what they are talking about when they say change something.

Then i found out there is no hd music streaming for it, no hdr, no gysnc that works with my oled, no updated drivers for my card, no way to use my sound card, my on board lan card was a problem to.

To add some more salt to the already frusterating experience, no gog galaxy, which i happen to like.

Dont know how any one handles linux, it felt like i was going back to dos and with no support none of the high quailty video features worked like 444 hdr so it looked like it to lol.

What Linux distro did you try? I am currently using, Pop! OS, and MX Linux, and have also used Linux Mint Cinnamon for a few years. Pop! OS works like a charm, they even have two versions of their distro, one is optimized for NVIDIA graphics cards, and it works like an absolute charm.

I set up a dual boot system with both Windows 10 and Pop! OS. My laptop (Gigabyte Aero 15 W9) has an NVIDIA RTX2060, and everything works flawlessly. It also supports hybrid graphics, so you can switch between integrated graphics and NVidia on the fly. You might want to give it a try.

https://pop.system76.com/

But NVidia’s proprietary driver policy and unwillingness to share their hardware information has always been a problem and a huge pain for GNU/Linux.

Linus Torvalds put it very eloquently a few years ago: “NVIDIA, Fuck You!”

I was using mint.

That still doesnt fix no hdr, no gysnc, no updated nvida drivers since nvida are bastards and closed sourced them. Not to mention no way to get high quailty music other than pirating it.

The whole thing just makes me hate nvida and microsoft even more haha for locking it all down, addimg in dobly to that. There is no way to get dolby atmos to work, you cant even get 2 monitors to work right, which is a requirement. Because you have to have the dolby signal going through the intel graphics hdmi port. Unless ypu have a by pass reciever with gsync anf 120hz, which would be mute anyways because linux cant use it .

I don’t get the high quality music part and the need for pirating. What do you mean? I know that e.g. Spotify for Linux is a thing.

I’m using my laptop and an external monitor at the same time, which worked under pretty much all distros I have tried so far.

There are only 2 good high quailtt music streamers Amazon and i forgot the name of the other one, but it isnt on linux either.

So the only way to use amazon is pay some other nut sack 15 a month with some stupid program he made, that downloads the songs from amazon. Tunepat is the name of the thing, which is 100 percent pirating it.

It def wouldnt work with what im talking about, there is no way to do it. Youbhave to have dolby atmos support which is only on windows store, if you could even figure out how to make both work at rhe same time . Which the only way to get 7.2 surround sound in games with a reciver meant for home stero is through dolby atmos. Which is the only way to get high quailty sound, since they stopped making computer speakers, and even when they fid they werent good.

There isnt much differnce in say a mp3 and amazln hd if u are listening to music at like 30 40 dbs, but when u get up to the 90s it makes a huge differnce. Which i can only do every so often haha it can be heard for 1000s of feet away. I could make due with that i guess, but losing 7.2 surround sound, gsync, and hdr is to much its like going back to nintendo days lol.

Hi, I've been using Linux for many years and will try to help as far as I can. Switching to Linux can admittedly be a bit of a learning curve, but imo it is well worth the initial effort.

For that graphics card, you will almost certainly need to install the NVidia proprietary drivers. Even if the built-in open-source drivers that are packaged with the Linux kernel work, you won't get good performance. There is a good chance your distro has them in their repository - let me know if you are having trouble finding/installing them. The sound card might depend on the level of support for Linux by the manufacturer. I know that can vary quite a bit, unfortunately. What is the model? You may need to download/install their proprietary drivers for that too. In my experience, most mainstream, consumer-level sound devices are supported, but it gets more patchy if you are getting into pro-level stuff.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by 'hd music streaming' and 'hdr'. Could you elaborate on what the problem is there?

The gsync issue might be solved by just using the correct NVidia drivers. I found with my NVidia card, there is a setting in the NVidia settings: 'force full composition pipeline', which totally eliminated all issues I had with screen tearing. But, that will depend on having the proprietary NVidia driver.

Why do you have a separate LAN card? I thought most mainboards these days have that built in. No, there is no GOG Galaxy for Linux and that is unlikely to change any time soon. Linux is different to Windows and there is learning curve, as I said. It is likely there is a way to do most of these things, if you have the right drivers/software installed. Linux generally gives the user more power and freedom than Windows does, but the trade off is the user needs to learn more about how to set things up initially. However, that freedom is fantastic, once you get used to it!

Yep i agree, which is why I was gonna do it. Mint didnt have those drivers you are talking about, and i couldnt figure out how to get it to install it right. I got it to install the 455 ones, and i tried 450.

The model of the tv? It is a Oled cx lg tv. You are problay right, but im not gonna spebd the next 600 hours figuring out how to steal dolby atmos, amazon hd, and nvidia drivers, which is what your asking me to do to get it to work right. I would also have to steal windows way of making hdr work, and then translate it to linux, with how ever intel translate dobly atmos to the reciever. That is way to much work.

Hi there. I've been mainlining Fedora since version 25. And for the most part, I've only encountered one game on GOG that was built so wrong as to not be platform agnostic.

Thankfully, due to interface issues, it's not that high on my "To Play" list.

1: Never, ever, EVER use Nvidia if you intend to Linux.

2: There are plenty of streaming solutions, I could pull five of them from a hat just with a very casual search. That's not counting for things like KODI (formerly XMB) that include such things as optional modules.

3: GOG Galaxy is vastly overrated. But if you insist on needing a solution, I'd like to suggest Lutris. It does most of what Galaxy does.


Addendum: Having read further into the thread, I think you're approaching the issue and solutions from the completely wrong angles.

Yep they do own everything lol, and they are right its not a illiusion. Unless you want to pirate the stuff. I suppose I could buy the cds, but i dont want to spend 1000 dollars on cds, that i would have to rip, and then store them.

I dont see anyway to get 16 bit 96k which is the max one can hear and even that causes hearing problems if you listen to long, my speakers max out at around 98 to 100 dbs at a foot. The cds are like 10 to 20 dollars apieace, and then i would have to buy a cd dvd or blu ray ripper, and go through all them. Other than paying amazon 15 dollars.

They didn't have the NVidia drivers? I would be hugely surprised if Mint doesn't have the latest NVidia drivers in their repository. Or do you mean the sound card? What is this 455/450 you are referring to? I am confused. No, I meant the model of your sound card device. You don't need to steal anything, but you may need to download/install some proprietary drivers (i.e. ones provided by the manufacturer) for your specific hardware, as I said. If you could tell me the model of your sound card, I would try to help see if there are proprietary drivers available. I wouldn't think you would need specific Linux drivers for the TV - those generally take a signal from the PC, but are not being directly driven by it. I have an NVidia GTX 1050, which works beautifully. However, I am planning to change to AMD for my next card, as they seem better supported.

I probly am, i just want simple lol, hd music, surround sound games, and dolby atmos. I also dobt like them stealing all my info. Which google, microsoft and amaxon 100 percebt do. I liked that linux is free from that. I mean it took me 100s of hours to figure out how to block microsoft, amazon, and google from doing that.

It looks to me though, those bastards dont want any one easily going to linux with out alot of bad nosie. They intentionally block drivers, and things to make it diffcult.

But if it took me over 4 hours just to figure out how to even get linux installed lol i have no hope for making it work. I mean at first i couldnt even get past the unkown chip thing, it took me 40 mins to figure out that was my lan on the mb. Then 2 hours atleast to figure out what they were trying to tell me was hit esc, highlight the mint verison and hit e to edit the code. It took at least 40 of those 2 hours to figure out i had to hit esc not ahift to even get into that menu.

Took me over 2 more hours yesterday to figure out you dont install linux like windows, you have to boot into from the usb than install it, i kept hitting install oem, hitting that chip error, then i hit the nvidia drivers error and got no graphics, which is that stupid nomodeset thing you gotta change.

It looks like i would be at it for 1000 plus hours, and i would still have no amazon hd music, no dobly sound, no matter what i did.
It is some kind of realtek card on a msi gaming wifi z490. Thank you very much for trying btw. Even if i found those drivers, which im gonna guess and say there are some, that doesnt help. I dont really use the spund card for sound, other than amazon hd and that doesnt work no matter what you do. The drivers i would need would be from intel hd 10th gen graphics drivers, with what ever dolby uses. The way in windows to set it up is you have to have a second hdmi going from the onboard intel, to the reciver, the reciver to the second hdmi or another monitor. Then you download dolby acess and tell it to use intel as the sound, and it sends rhe reciver a dolby singal, that some how just works, and it works good.

The only way i have ever got close to this level was with logitech 5000 and a sound blaster with 3 audio jacks, but that still sounded like garbage, compared to 7 klispch speakers abd 2 subs. Im sure if i went back to sound blaster and found some one who saved the logitech relic 5.1 speakers i could get it to work.

You say you woulsnt have to steal, but i dont see any way around dolby , or amazon hd music with out stealing it That program that guy sells you for 15 a month steals the download and unencypts it. The only way to make dolby atmos work would be steal thier code and unencypt it. Or just give up on high quailty sound, and use head phones i guess, which head phones are all bad quailty compared to speakers , so at that point it wouldnt matter if you had dolby, stero, or mp3.

I think you are exaggerating. There are almost certainly ways to do the things you want to do in Linux. I know for a fact that it is possible to get surround sound in Linux (but it may depend on how well your specific sound card is supported). You are switching to a new OS - it is going to take some time and patience to get things working perfectly the way you want. If you don't have that time/patience, Linux might not be for you.

what?!? I can listen to APE and FLAC music without problems. My card also supports digital audio and sends it to HDMI when appropriate.

Pirate such music? I can purchase DRM-free FLAC (or mp3, for that matter) music from Deutsche Grammophon; and there are other ways to get other music genres in the same manner. No need to pirate anything. And as others have said, there's spotify for Linux (or youtube in the browser...)

I do not have your problems, and I use Slackware64-current which is pretty barebones in the "automation" department.

Sometimes you don't get Linux until the moment is right, and maybe that moment is yet to come for you. Try something different than Mint and maybe you'll get more successful.

I will elaboate further:

Linux is not necessarily more difficult than anything. Trust me; I've been using it for 20 years as my main operating system. But it's basically a flavor of Unix, and it does things differently than Windows and macOS and thus, as others have pointed out, there's a learning curve involved.

Most hardware is supported now, but nVidia with its insistence on proprietary binary drivers is downright ugly and cumbersome. The surefire way to get things OK in the graphics department is to use Intel graphics, but this is not the best option for gaming. In that case, ATI graphics are usually well supported in Linux.

I would recommend to install it in a dual-boot capacity or in an alternate machine if available and get used to it, experiment with it, and even break things once or twice (with non-critical data of course).

If you know someone like that, ask people who use Linux everyday for work and fun on the best way to do things.

Remember, it's not more difficult nor complicated. It's just different.

I'd also suggest giving Pop!_OS a try, download the specific .iso for Nvidia cards and you won't have any driver issues. The setup and the system itself are pretty user friendly as well, and for GOG games (as someone else has already recommended), you could download Lutris and see how you like it.

And just to make an uninformed point from a noob's perspective, I'd say that my experience with an Nvidia graphics card has been frictionless. I understand the animosity within the Linux community (and within any tech-related community for that matter) towards Nvidia, but from a user-experience standpoint, it's fair to say that I've never encountered any issue and everything has always worked flawlessly and updated frequently. So yeah, there's something to be said about choosing AMD over Nvidia if the option is available to you, but if it isn't, then I'd say it's great you can still use Linux nonetheless.