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You know what I find hysterical? People throwing "medical" jargon around like they know what the fuck they are talking about.

Blue flying elephants. *tap dances*
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Crewdroog: You know what I find hysterical? People throwing "medical" jargon around like they know what the fuck they are talking about.

Blue flying elephants. *tap dances*
Trust her, she's a Dawgter.
Hey soccorro! You stuck here too? I keep trying to get away, but it keeps pulling me back in!! :)

*tap dances around soccorro*
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Crewdroog: Hey soccorro! You stuck here too? I keep trying to get away, but it keeps pulling me back in!! :)

*tap dances around soccorro*
Yep, gog and circumcisions have become a significant part of my life.

*Starts doing the Robot*
Post edited February 14, 2015 by Soccorro
What,still no wars....bugga...
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hedwards: Hitchens? I don't think I hold a very high opinion of him if this is the sort of bullshit that he's supporting.
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awalterj: You can of course hold any personal opinion you like of Cristopher Hitchens but if you want to discredit what he says as bullshit in one sentence, you're going to have to try a lot harder and bring arguments. Hitchens can act like a twat at times but if he speaks the truth then his twatness doesn't change the validity of his words.
His argument is bullshit is why I hold him in such low regards. The fact of the matter is that if there were something in that video worth my time, you should have enumerated it so that I didn't have to watch the video. I started watching the video and stopped when he started to go off on relativism. If you can't do that, then you shouldn't be linking to it. It's just common courtesy.

Life is way too short to argue with somebody that's misapplying post-modernism rather than acknowledging that the boundaries are a bit soft and case by case.

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hedwards: You don't get to draw the line like that. They're the ones that draw the line of what insults them.
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awalterj: Tough luck, I happen to be every bit as much offended by political Islam as it could ever be by anything I say. They have no monopoly on being insulted. I draw the line whenever religion aka institutionalized fear and insanity crosses the border between private matters and being in any way compulsory for everybody.
You think Christians don't do that? The big difference here is that Christians are more likely to live in countries with a large amount of wealth and military might to back it up. If you actually bother to read up on things like the terrorist groups in the Middle East, they weren't there before we started meddling in their affairs.

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hedwards: The only meaningful difference here is that the radicals will blow you up and the moderates will just be extremely offended and hurt. I don't personally think that pissing off the moderates and pushing them towards extremism is a particularly useful pursuit.
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awalterj: I think we can agree upon the fact that blowing up is unacceptable and as for being extremely offended, as I said I am equally offended by religion and those who try to make it mandatory for everybody as they can ever be offended by me.

As for "pushing moderates towards extremism", that they do themselves. Everyone is responsible for their own actions, I take no accountability whatsoever when any moderate moves even an inch more towards extremism after hearing anything I've said, nor is the Muhammad game here or its creator in any ways accountable for such shifts.
People have to take responsibility for what they freely decide to do and stop portraying themselves as victims.
I see, so in other words, you're not responsible for your contribution to the problem, gotcha. So, if I start talking smack about that 6'3" 275lbs., linebacker's mother I'm not at all responsible for the consequences. That's a wonderful way of looking at things. That's just how the human brain functions.

At some point, you're going to grow up and realize that we all have responsibilities here and if we don't want to deal with the terrorists we're going to have to deal with them before they become terrorists. It's called being an adult.

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hedwards: IMHO, the game would have a lot more credibility if you were allowed to play as other revered religious figures.
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awalterj: I disagree, because today the visual representation of Muhammad is clearly the one "blasphemy" that will net the most death threats, not only voiced but carried out. The risk the creator of this game is taking is larger and in no way comparable to if he had chosen any other religious figure, be it Jesus or anyone. And that is exactly the point of this game, and the reason why it needs to exist despite being silly and lacking in quality.
Is he though? It gets much more coverage than other ones do. But, there's no shortage of people out there going bat-shit insane over the war on Christmas and other bullshit. Singling out Muslims in this regard when most of them aren't behaving like that is beyond hypocritical. What's more, the religion explicitly forbids the killing and harm of innocent civilians.

You hear a ton about the Muslims that are making these threats, but it's never substantiated how many of them are doing it. It's also a way of getting ratings in countries that are majority Christian. Scary Muslims sell ads better than peaceful ones do. It sucks, but until people stop tuning into those channels it's not going to change.
Post edited February 14, 2015 by hedwards
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Lifthrasil: [...] Maybe, after 70 years, we are just unconciously looking for a strong leader again and Cthulhu (or his proxy) seems like a good choice? At least he would be more sane than the last one. ;-)
VEEERY NOOIIIIICEEE... That made my evening.

On a rather frighteningly second thought though, you probably are more right than we all want you to be.

Besides, after the Middle Ages I thought wars weren't a good idea any more, but with Cthulhu as my Reichsmarshall I would go for galactical Dominance anytime without ever doubting the cause for it.
Imagine, Prussian Military genomes paired with Cthulhu's non-euclidian warfare, nothing in the omniverse would stand a chance...
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Khadgar42: Imagine, Prussian Military genomes paired with Cthulhu's non-euclidian warfare, nothing in the omniverse would stand a chance...
Scary thought... Poor Mi-Go and Elder Things and whatnot! ;-)
Vote Cthulhu!
Post edited February 15, 2015 by tinyE
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hedwards: *snip*
Christians gave up what Muslims are doing now centuries ago. The very ideas of Islam are the problem. Islam is the only religion that requires everyone to conform, hence the Hebdo shootings. Hence the Theo Vangogh stabbing. It's the pinnacle of intolerance and I like what Bill Clinton had to say about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD6pAt_UuyU

Just watch the beginning and ignore the annoying FOX dude.
Post edited February 15, 2015 by Garrison72
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tinyE: Vote Cthulhu!
You reading my mind? I was thinking about a "Lovecraft prophet" expansion to this game, having sex with squid, octopi, fishmen and tentacles play...
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tinyE: Vote Cthulhu!
I'a Cthlulhu ftaghn!
Post edited February 15, 2015 by Soccorro
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hedwards: *snip*
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Garrison72: Christians gave up what Muslims are doing now centuries ago. The very ideas of Islam are the problem. Islam is the only religion that requires everyone to conform, hence the Hebdo shootings. Hence the Theo Vangogh stabbing. It's the pinnacle of intolerance and I like what Bill Clinton had to say about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD6pAt_UuyU

Just watch the beginning and ignore the annoying FOX dude.
Spoken like somebody who doesn't know jack shit about Islam. Those individuals are Muslim in name only. There are folks in Christianity and Judaism that are the same way. And like in Islam they're not the norm.

Also, keep in mind that if you total all those incidents up that's probably a dozen maybe 20 people killed. The Israelis kill more innocent Muslims every month than that.

When all is said and done, the main difference here is who is doing the PR work and press coverage. If you actually buy into that bullshit that passes for coverage, you'd think that every Muslim out there is out to get us. But, the truth is that more Muslims are killed by those people than non-Muslims and the main reason why they're able to carry on is because non-Muslims insist upon insulting Islam and making it that much easier to radicalize people that probably wouldn't have any reason to hate us in the first place.
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hedwards: *snip*
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Garrison72: Christians gave up what Muslims are doing now centuries ago. The very ideas of Islam are the problem. Islam is the only religion that requires everyone to conform, hence the Hebdo shootings. Hence the Theo Vangogh stabbing. It's the pinnacle of intolerance and I like what Bill Clinton had to say about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD6pAt_UuyU

Just watch the beginning and ignore the annoying FOX dude.
really?? really? siiiiiigh. blue flying muther freakin' elephants. *lights hair on fire*


edit: i think we don't understand the meaning of conform...
con·form
kənˈfôrm/
verb
verb: conform; 3rd person present: conforms; past tense: conformed; past participle: conformed; gerund or present participle: conforming

comply with rules, standards, or laws.
"the kitchen does not conform to hygiene regulations"
synonyms: comply with, abide by, obey, observe, follow, keep to, stick to, adhere to, uphold, heed, accept, go along with, fall in with, respect, defer to; More
satisfy, meet, fulfill
"visitors have to conform to our rules"
antonyms: flout
(of a person) behave according to socially acceptable conventions or standards.
"the pressure to conform"
synonyms: follow convention, be conventional, fit in, adapt, adjust, follow the crowd; More
comply, acquiesce, toe the line, follow the rules;
submit, yield;
informalplay it by the book, play by the rules
"they refuse to conform"
antonyms: rebel
be similar in form or type; agree.
"the countryside should conform to a certain idea of the picturesque"
synonyms: match, fit, suit, answer, agree with, be like, correspond to, be consistent with, measure up to, tally with, square with
"goods must conform to their description"
Post edited February 15, 2015 by Crewdroog
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hedwards: *snip*
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Garrison72: Christians gave up what Muslims are doing now centuries ago.
Good point because obviously no one has been blown up, shot, stabbed, or lynched in the name of Christianity in centuries. :P
Post edited February 15, 2015 by tinyE