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Posted August 24, 2018
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morolf: I think you know where'll you end up with that attitude (hint: it's really hot there).
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dtgreene: Better there than in a place with no interesting people to talk to.
If I was in charge you'd be talking to Anita Bryant and Phyllis Schlafly for the rest of eternity. lol
Posted August 24, 2018
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morolf: ??? I've never heard about that.
Sounds like a really stupid theory, how would that be possible without time travel?
Well now that depends on if we're talking about human historical figures or magic people.
Posted August 24, 2018
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Mafwek: You do know there is theory that Muhammad was Jesus?
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morolf: ??? I've never heard about that.
Sounds like a really stupid theory, how would that be possible without time travel?
Well, I've seen some YouTube video that Muslims were sect of Christianity in Arabia which growth in power and split of, while forgetting it's origins. I couldn't find that video, but while I don't find it very likely, it is still very interesting theory.
Posted August 24, 2018
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morolf: ??? I've never heard about that.
Sounds like a really stupid theory, how would that be possible without time travel?
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SirPrimalform: Well now that depends on if we're talking about human historical figures or magic people.
Jesus walked on water and came back from the dead. To suggest he was capable of time travel is silly.
Post edited August 24, 2018 by tinyE
Posted August 24, 2018
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Mafwek:
Well, there's a lot of revisionism about Islam's origins, even by serious scholars like Patricia Crone. It seems quite possible that Mohammed, as he is presented in Islamic tradition, may never have existed...I guess there was some kind of Arab prophet in the 7th century, but all the details "known" about him might not be very reliable (iirc the standard Islamic accounts were all written down only in the 8th century, that is much later). And certainly there were strong Christian influences in the Arabian peninsula before the rise of Islam, I don't think that's even controversial.
Still, Jesus = Mohammed seems like a very strange idea.
Posted August 24, 2018
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richlind33: Monotheism is the science of herding sheep.
When I am already going to get banned for derailing thread...

Sigh, do you really have to go all straw-man? I am atheist/agnostic, but that doesn't mean I consider religion worse ideology than others. Besides, Man needs religion.

Okay, that's all folks. Signing off from this thread.
Post edited August 24, 2018 by Mafwek
Posted August 24, 2018
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richlind33: Monotheism is the science of herding sheep.
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Mafwek: When I am already going to get banned for derailing thread...

Sigh, do you really have to go all straw-man? I am atheist/agnostic, but that doesn't mean I consider religion worse ideology than others. Besides, Man needs religion.
All religion does is divide people and promote persecution. It has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. None.

Philosophy, on the other hand, offers human beings everything that is needed to live successfully.
Post edited August 24, 2018 by richlind33
Posted August 25, 2018
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Telika: When they are taught about world history, in a more objective perspective than through the (understandably) ethnocentered school basics, they end up with a completely different perception of the world than yours. You're the typical product of short-sighted, minimalist, history courses.
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devoras: No, you can clearly see by things like the cries of 'white people must atone for historical slavery!' that the courses you're referring to are much, much less objective than normal ones that aren't filled with propaganda. That shows an ignorance towards history, what slavery was and who engaged in it. AND the people teaching that propaganda try to convince people that their bias is somehow a 'more objective perspective' while teaching a skewed version of history.
Multiculturalism is deeply flawed and biased, but so too is Eurocentrism. Neither can rightly claim to be objective.
Posted August 26, 2018
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devoras: No, you can clearly see by things like the cries of 'white people must atone for historical slavery!' that the courses you're referring to are much, much less objective than normal ones that aren't filled with propaganda. That shows an ignorance towards history, what slavery was and who engaged in it. AND the people teaching that propaganda try to convince people that their bias is somehow a 'more objective perspective' while teaching a skewed version of history.
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richlind33: Multiculturalism is deeply flawed and biased, but so too is Eurocentrism. Neither can rightly claim to be objective.
Both are biased. True. Multiculturalism is about the cultural and racial destruction of European peoples and civilization. Once you have examined both more closey you realize the truth that those who you describe as "Eurocentric", merely wish to preserve their culture and halt the genetic annihilation of people of European (ie:white) racial and/or genetic identity. So whose side are you on? Those who wish to commit genocide or those against it?

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Posted August 26, 2018
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initialpresence: Both are biased. True. Multiculturalism is about the cultural and racial destruction of European peoples and civilization. Once you have examined both more closey you realize the truth that those who you describe as "Eurocentric", merely wish to preserve their culture and halt the genetic annihilation of people of European (ie:white) racial and/or genetic identity. So whose side are you on? Those who wish to commit genocide or those against it?
1) You are derailing the thread.

2) Bias implies being distorted truth, so stop propagating either side as (objective) truth.

3) There is third option: "Neither side."

P. S. Genetic and cultural annihilation of European people is inevitable, as is genetic and cultural annihilation of all people. Everything changes.
Posted August 26, 2018
This thread is going off into directions that are worrying. It's getting locked.
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