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It's a weird feeling, but despite the fact that I have disliked almost every MMO I have played, I keep having the feeling that I want to play one. I guess the appeal is persistence, when you play a regular RPG you play it for 30 hours or more and then the game ends, but with an MMO all your accomplishments are persistent and you can play "forever" (yeah I know, MMO's all die eventually). It's almost like a drug.
Post edited March 20, 2016 by Crosmando
MMOs just sound like work to me. I'd much rather have non persistent online game to enjoy the pvp. And I imagine waiting for bosses to respawn and having so many people onscreen will break my immersion.
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Crosmando: It's a weird feeling, but despite the fact that I have disliked almost every MMO I have played, I keep having the feeling that I want to play one. I guess the appeal is persistence, when you play a regular RPG you play it for 30 hours or more and then the game ends, but with an MMO all your accomplishments are persistent and you can play "forever" (yeah I know, MMO's all die eventually). It's almost like a drug.
Maybe you should take up LARPing? Persistent, no grinding, Can even take drugs.
Check out the upcoming Camelot Unchained !! I don't have time for MMOs and none have interested me in years, but this one I backed (I played DAoC at release for a handful of years pretty hardcore, this has the same creator/developer as that did when it came out, Mark Jacobs) and am quite excited for it, even if the time I'll be able to dedicate to it will be limited.
Post edited March 20, 2016 by drealmer7
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drealmer7: Check out the upcoming Camelot Unchained !! I don't have time for MMOs and none have interested me in years, but this one I backed (I played DAoC at release for a handful of years pretty hardcore, this has the same creator/developer as that did when it came out, Mark Jacobs) and am quite excited for it, even if the time I'll be able to dedicate to it will be limited.
As much as I don't like MMOs this one I'm keeping an eye on, if only for the setting.I mean, I can play as one of the Fianna. Is that awesome or what? Although I'm pretty sure I already know how it will go- I'll try to get into it because of the setting, I'll find that the MMO nature of the game takes a dump all over the lore that made me interested in it to begin with, and I'll get bored of the whole thing in a month. It's not like I haven't seen this already.
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drealmer7: Check out the upcoming Camelot Unchained !! I don't have time for MMOs and none have interested me in years, but this one I backed (I played DAoC at release for a handful of years pretty hardcore, this has the same creator/developer as that did when it came out, Mark Jacobs) and am quite excited for it, even if the time I'll be able to dedicate to it will be limited.
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Breja: As much as I don't like MMOs this one I'm keeping an eye on, if only for the setting.I mean, I can play as one of the Fianna. Is that awesome or what? Although I'm pretty sure I already know how it will go- I'll try to get into it because of the setting, I'll find that the MMO nature of the game takes a dump all over the lore that made me interested in it to begin with, and I'll get bored of the whole thing in a month. It's not like I haven't seen this already.
I think the delivery of the lore and story between all of the factions will be woven pretty well. Dark Age of Camelot's lore was quite good all around, even if the delivery and writing wasn't top-notch, and I expect this to be even more developed and interesting and probably better written too. I'm looking forward to poring through it all over time.

I found the way they did the class reveals over a period of time for CU were quite enticing!
Not only MMOs need a terribly large investment of time and working-hours, but they are very competitive, too. A terrible idea for ANY adult, even those with loads of free time (for any reason). Most are infested by kids (the bad variety, i mean totally immature and ill-mannered). Others have snobbish, elitist players, who won't give you the time of the day, unless you are fully geared, max leveled, from a well known guild, highly ranked, etc. MMOs are usually NOT for the casual player, who simply wants to have fun. In Asia, they LIVE and earn INCOMES from excessive farming (in-game), power-leveling and selling of game stuff for real money (if and when it can be applied), or other services depending of the game and its features, or gameplay elements...

Due to friends of mine, in the past, i did the mistake of playing one or two, but ultimately i quit and took my life back, literally, lol. Old games revamped and good quality single player games, that thank all gods suddenly as of late started reappearing once again, after YEARS upon years of extinction, are reason enough for me to NEVER AGAIN touch anything massively online. Ever again...

P.S. Thank all gods that the MMO experiment ended badly for the gaming industry. Once upon a time, years ago, everyone was speculating and hypothesizing that ALL games, sooner or later, would become an MMO and the entire gaming field would massively "evolve" towards that course. Thank ALL GODS that ultimately, it didn't "work", or simply, didn't happen. Thank all gods.
Post edited March 20, 2016 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
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Crosmando: snip
Same. I know the problems they have too and how to fix them. But I need a full team for that. :P
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Not only MMOs need a terribly large investment of time and working-hours, but they are very competitive, too. A terrible idea for ANY adult, even those with loads of free time (for any reason). Most are infested by kids (the bad variety, i mean totally immature and ill-mannered). Others have snobbish, elitist players, who won't give you the time of the day, unless you are fully geared, max leveled, from a well known guild, highly ranked, etc. MMOs are usually NOT for the casual player, who simply wants to have fun. In Asia, they LIVE and earn INCOMES from excessive farming (in-game), power-leveling and selling of game stuff for real money (if and when it can be applied), or other services depending of the game and its features, or gameplay elements...

Due to friends of mine, in the past, i did the mistake of playing one or two, but ultimately i quit and took my life back, literally, lol. Old games revamped and good quality single player games, that thank all gods suddenly as of late started reappearing once again, after YEARS upon years of extinction, are reason enough for me to NEVER AGAIN touch anything massively online. Ever again...

P.S. Thank all gods that the MMO experiment ended badly for the gaming industry. Once upon a time, years ago, everyone was speculating and hypothesizing that ALL games, sooner or later, would become an MMO and the entire gaming field would massively "evolve" towards that course. Thank ALL GODS that ultimately, it didn't "work", or simply, didn't happen. Thank all gods.
You're right in everything you've written.

I too remember all too well the times in which the "Titans" of game development (Richard Garriott and others) claimed that always online would be the future.
I too believed it would be so. It was the age of Ultima Online, Meridian 59, Asheron's Call and Everquest. It seemed to good to be true. A true virtual fantasy world.

Alas... It really was too good to be true. Some time later I started playing UO.
What I discovered in online Britannia was a world filled with imbeciles, trolls and retarded people of all sorts and sizes. There were many wonderful people, sure. Unfortunately on a scale of 1/30 :P

Well, like most people I use games as a sort of escapism. I enter these virtual worlds of fantasy in order to forget about job, morons or certain problems. Soon I was starting to realise that I was living in a virtual world filled with boring jobs, morons and certain problems.

If you enter a place filled with humans, something bad or stupid is bound to happen, sooner or later.
In a certain way it reminds me of Malick's The New World.
The europeans arrived at the Americas thinking they had found paradise. Some months later, it had all turned to hell.

And so ended my experience with MMOs
Nah, not for me. Tried out WoW, was interested in Guild Wars but never tried it out. Played a F2P one for a while, but that was years ago. Don't have the need to play one, either.
MMOs would be great... if it weren't for all the people.
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Emob78: MMOs would be great... if it weren't for all the people.
That's why procedural generation of content is all the rage. Make the game worlds so huge the players never even meet each other ;-)
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Emob78: MMOs would be great... if it weren't for all the people.
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toxicTom: That's why procedural generation of content is all the rage. Make the game worlds so huge the players never even meet each other ;-)
Yes, but those generated worlds don't constantly tell me that I'm a faggot and that it had sex with my mom last night. I feel something... missing.
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Emob78: Yes, but those generated worlds don't constantly tell me that I'm a faggot and that it had sex with my mom last night. I feel something... missing.
Procedural insults DLC, only $9.99
I personaly wasted few years by playing Lineage 2... but at some point it was like a second job lol... never again (hopefully :P)
But I have to admit that sometimes I feel like comming back... nostalgia I guess...

But to be fair, I meet some great ppl there, still keeping a contact with some of them.