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How to live another life in another world?

Bethesda is well known for creating stories that take you to the unknown places and games that redefine their genres. Let's start with a blood-drenched, adrenaline-fuelled FPS experience like no other in Doom (-67%), and then go to Gothic flavored legendary FPS Quake (-67%). How about an alien world with a bit of magic in Morrowind (-67%) or Oblivion (-67%) that opened the mainstream window for the fantasy games?

Bethesda catalog wouldn't be complete without the Fallout series (-75%), where the studio went nuclear in post-apocalyptic Washington. Visit Vault 108 to face Gary clones and find out why the Vault's 101 door remained sealed since the war.

All the Bethesda games on GOG.COM are now up to 75% off.

The Bethesda Publisher Sale ends July 31th, 1 PM UTC.
Do you know that feeling, when you're a dedicated hunter, obsessed with getting the best trophies? Where you will accept nothing but the best prizes to mount on your wall and you will accept nothing less than the most majestic and largest of all trophies for your collection. And you have this wonderful head of a stag, a magnificient beast with huge antlers, that you're so proud of.

Then six months later, someone else at the hunting lodge brings in a kill that dwarves your trophy and shames it into insignificance.

If you are exactly like that, you've got issues and terrible taste in wall decorations. But if you substitute animals with sale discounts, well then, that's me and what I'm feeling about New Vegas right now.

But; aha! I still didn't have Fallout 3. Oh, I'm so getting that one wooo-hooo!

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Incidentally, considering all the, *ahem*, fallout from Bethesda's latest endeavours, this sale is a great idea to get as much good will as possible.

Not that it'll work, we know what you've done Bethesda, and yes, we still remember. Go back to your corner, you're still on timeout.
Post edited July 25, 2019 by j0ekerr
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Meldaras: It would be very wise if they put Oldrim on here, though for sure I can't see any of their products integrated with Creation Club being put on here for a good long while.
I'm pretty sure Beth would push the more expensive version, not Oldrim. I assume Newrim could be played DRM-free
(no log-in required to play the base game), but optionally log in to buy Creation Club stuff. (setting aside any opinions on the Creation Club itself, I assume many people would still like to at least have Newrim here)
Post edited July 25, 2019 by tfishell
FallOut 1+2+Tactics thats it.... i stopped buying AAA games when ythey turned FPP

Many good old AAA games turned 3d ( 3d shooters) and i draw the line at FPP games...
Jagged Alliance games also messed up by using the horrible looking 3d engine the funny part in games that changed to a sort of 3d engine is the fact the player can rotate the surroundings 360 degrees.

People cannot stand still and turn a surrounding 360 degrees around their axis, thats impossible...
same goes for walking ... as the main character walks the houses scroll along with him, once again impossible and does not look realistic, buildings stand still and stay where they are, the character is moving so the buildings should get smaller and not scroll along :D


Thats when i stopped buying them , imho 3d FPP works a charm for real 3d shooters like counter strike, those games were made to use a 3d game, but Fallout games and every game like it ( red alert, baldurs gate, Desperados, Commandos and many other games where meant to stay 2d.... :D
Anyway every bad side has a good side , because they did change and keep doing it ... i save lots of cash so i can finally get a new PC soon...:D
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Meldaras: It would be very wise if they put Oldrim on here, though for sure I can't see any of their products integrated with Creation Club being put on here for a good long while.
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tfishell: I'm pretty sure Beth would push the more expensive version, not Oldrim. I assume Newrim could be played DRM-free
(no log-in required to play the base game), but optionally log in to buy Creation Club stuff. (setting aside any opinions on the Creation Club itself, I assume many people would still like to at least have Newrim here)
Or, if the Nehrim guys would just release the newest version on the moddb.com, like they used to, everything would be dandy.
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DDDespair: Would you say Morrowind is worth it if I hated Skyrim/Bethesda games in general? I'm interested in Morrowind's plot....but Bethesda's mechanics/bugs/practices make me think I'm just going to hate it.
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MadalinStroe: If you hate the gameplay loop, then Morrowind is exactly the same in that aspect. The story/plot in Morrowind is vastly superior, though it's impossible to guarantee that it'd be something you'd end up enjoying. That's entirely up to your preferences.

Ultimately, if you don't like the gameplay... :(
Hmm. Well, while I find the gameplay loop to be rather boring, it's not as though I hate it. I more hate stuff like the "stolen" mechanic and the brokenness of the a.i./game itself. I don't really know much about the plot, but it is intriguing from what I do know.

Another problem is mods; there's so many, I'm not sure what to use. Obviously I'd need the community bugfixes, but I'm not sure what sort of general/quality of life/rebalancing improvements I'd want. My system is a toaster, graphically speaking, so most of the texture/graphic mods would be out. I don't think I'd mind the standard ones anyway, as I really like the graphic styles from that era of gaming.

Still, I guess 5 shekels is worth a gamble. Thanks for the advice.
It looks like F3 and NV are currently bringing in more money than CybPunk2077 preorders according to the front page? (if that's still how the items are shifted on the front, based on money received during a certain amount of time or something like that)

edit: oh well not now. I hope it shifts up and down organically, and not somebody messing with it to keep CP2077 on top ;)
Post edited July 26, 2019 by tfishell
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GOG.com: Bethesda is well known for creating stories that take you to the unknown places and games that redefine their genres.
heh, thanks for the laugh. The only thing Bethesda is known for is releasing games that have development finished by the customers.
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tfishell: It looks like F3 and NV are currently bringing in more money than CybPunk2077 preorders according to the front page? (if that's still how the items are shifted on the front, based on money received during a certain amount of time or something like that)

edit: oh well not now. I hope it shifts up and down organically, and not somebody messing with it to keep CP2077 on top ;)
I guess that is based on the number of copies sold and not the total amount of money received. It's probably much simpler to just keep track of the sold copies number.
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Loger13: I already have everything from the list.
How about something new? And by new one, I mean, in fact, not even something really new (although it would be great). And I mean something new here: for example, something like Dishonored, Hunted: Demon's Forge, original Prey, The Evil Within, Wolfenstein, RAGE, ???Skyrim, or ... ANYTHING?
I concur. Come one Bethesda. But I think it may never happen.Bethesda implements DRM on DOOM from 1993 for the Nintendo Switch, Xbox One and PS4. At the same time Bethesda removed the Xbox live arcade version which didn't have this stupid DRM.

What the ..
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Loger13: I already have everything from the list.
How about something new? And by new one, I mean, in fact, not even something really new (although it would be great). And I mean something new here: for example, something like Dishonored, Hunted: Demon's Forge, original Prey, The Evil Within, Wolfenstein, RAGE, ???Skyrim, or ... ANYTHING?
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W3irdN3rd: I concur. Come one Bethesda. But I think it may never happen.Bethesda implements DRM on DOOM from 1993 for the Nintendo Switch, Xbox One and PS4. At the same time Bethesda removed the Xbox live arcade version which didn't have this stupid DRM.

What the ..
This crap is appalling!!

How is it possible that a publisher will enforce DRM on a 25 years old game???

I don't have specific data on the subject and I may eventually be wrong, but from what I've gathered from what I see and hear I'd say that piracy of videogames is now at least 70% less than it was at 1993. Who needs piracy when you can buy most games with a 85 or 90% discount on a digital store nowadays? With official patches and cloud-saves and without the risk of catchig viruses or malware?

This is just a proof that consumers need to enforce the need for more DRM-free policies. Else publishers will try and remove more rights from customers.

With the streaming services looming on the horizon we're not far from the times when a bloke needed to put a quarter into an arcade machine in order to earn a life (every extra life needed an extra quarter).
In fact, if the streaming services turn out to be success, I can perfectly see the "monthly subscription fee" being turned into a service where the player must play $ in order to gain an extra life or pay $$ in order to save the game.

Sory for the bluntness, but f#ck Bethesda and f#ck anyone who supports these publishers and their DRM.
Haha Bethesda, they have gone to shit so hard lately and now this DRM fiasco. I hate to say this but please go fuck yourselves Zenimax/Bethesda !

Luckily i already have Doom here but the love publishers have for DRM is insane, down with drm.
Post edited July 28, 2019 by ChrisGamer300
To be fair they're saying the Doom console mandatory sign-in thing was an accident. Even if they're lying all the console downloads have Steam style account based DRM, so not some massive difference sadly. Thankfully we have the better PC releases with source ports completely DRM free.
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StingingVelvet: To be fair they're saying the Doom console mandatory sign-in thing was an accident.
Honestly I think they're lying and are on "damage control" status.
As the saying goes on my country: they "threw the clay against the wall to see if it would stick" (it obviously didn't).

If it went unnoticed it'd likely be a green-light for them to push towards more DRM (my theory).
Post edited July 28, 2019 by karnak1
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karnak1: Honestly I think they're lying and are on "damage control" status.
I'd guess you're right, especially since their recent PC games on Steam pester you about a Bethesda account constantly, lock DLC and other such things behind said account and Steam signs you in somehow automatically anyway, without even saying anything. They're obviously trying to push the accounts as hard as they can.
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StingingVelvet: To be fair they're saying the Doom console mandatory sign-in thing was an accident. Even if they're lying all the console downloads have Steam style account based DRM, so not some massive difference sadly. Thankfully we have the better PC releases with source ports completely DRM free.
They say it was an accident but now the people that had already purchased the games already created an account on bethesda...A lot of "accidents" for bethesda recently such as selling on steam a game with denuvo and on their bethesda launcher the game was drm free (cant remember which game it was but it was a recent one)...I just wish they could at least release their games on gog that are more than 5 years old such as skyrim, dishonored, fallout 4 etc.
Post edited July 28, 2019 by alexandros050