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If Microsoft is willing to spend almost 70 billion dollars to acquire a company, they're not going to stop at a few more to get what they want.

I will always be against large acquisitions, because they benefit almost nobody other than than the buyer. But the FTC should not have been Sony's mouthpiece, because in a bidding war, Microsoft will crush Sony.

P.S.: No, this will not make Microsoft more likely to join GOG because, surprise, not everything revolves around GOG. Neither will this make Microsoft consider Activision's back catalog. Microsoft doesn't give a damn about their own old games, you think they'll give a shit about another company?
Post edited July 12, 2023 by Grargar
We never got Fable here. We never got Halo here. I would expect we've seen our last Besthesda release here. I wouldn't expect to see any new or old Activision releases here. Microsoft makes Windows, the most consumer unfriendly OS on the market. What on Earth makes you think they'll suddenly become pro-consumer and release games DRM-Free?
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SargonAelther: ...
Microsoft is the last company I want buying GOG. The only reason they'd have to buy GOG is to shut it down immediately. Just like how FitBit acquired Vector Watch for the sole reason of shutting it down... what a scummy practice.
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It's funny that you can mention purchasing a service to shut it down and Fitbit in the same sentence and only be referencing half of the times those things go together, don't forget that Google purchased Fitbit to consume and shut it down a few years ago.
Personally, I don't care much about the impact of this acquisition on the short term. I am done waiting for Age of Empires or Diablo II here.

It is the long-term consequences of concentration of people, talent, and IP. That and the ability to affect the market and other companies.
Sure, there is a good indie scene going on, but big companies can buy them out, flood the market with copies or hire out their talent.. This is not a fair game.
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Timboli: ... hell, they might even purchase GOG one day ...
Let's call that day "Armageddon", so it's easier to remember when we refer to it.

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Grargar: Microsoft doesn't give a damn about their own old games, you think they'll give a shit about another company?
Incorrect. They are interested in remasters of their old popular IP that can be milked on the console market. Did you know AoE II Definitive Edition got an Xbox release? Play an RTS with a controller, get a subpar experience and make MS rich, what a delightful proposition.

P.S.: I, for one, am rooting for Sony. Ganbare, Sony-san! At least they brought one game to GOG, and that's one more than MS.
Post edited July 12, 2023 by WinterSnowfall
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SargonAelther: ...
Microsoft is the last company I want buying GOG. The only reason they'd have to buy GOG is to shut it down immediately. Just like how FitBit acquired Vector Watch for the sole reason of shutting it down... what a scummy practice.
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Amclass: It's funny that you can mention purchasing a service to shut it down and Fitbit in the same sentence and only be referencing half of the times those things go together, don't forget that Google purchased Fitbit to consume and shut it down a few years ago.
I wasn't aware that Google was buying FitBit. Also Fitbit's website appears to still be up and FitBits appear to be for sale. Vector, on the other hand, was actually killed off, which sucks, because I own and really like their watch. There's no Vector Watch 2, no website, no support.

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Grargar: Microsoft doesn't give a damn about their own old games, you think they'll give a shit about another company?
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WinterSnowfall: Incorrect. They are interested in remasters of their old popular IP that can be milked on the console market. Did you know AoE II Definitive Edition got an Xbox release? Play an RTS with a controller, get a subpar experience and make MS rich, what a delightful proposition.

P.S.: I, for one, am rooting for Sony. Ganbare, Sony-san! At least they brought one game to GOG, and that's one more than MS.
Well that's the thing. The only time Microsoft looks at their backlog, is when they are looking for something to remaster or remake. If they do remaster or remake something, it'll go on Steam and not on GOG anyway. GOG is left out one way or the other. And yes, Sony voluntarily released one game on GOG. Microsoft released one game on GOG (Physchonauts 2), because of a pre-existing obligation, before its acquisition.
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Timboli: ... hell, they might even purchase GOG one day ...
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WinterSnowfall: Let's call that day "Armageddon", so it's easier to remember when we refer to it.

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Grargar: Microsoft doesn't give a damn about their own old games, you think they'll give a shit about another company?
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WinterSnowfall: Incorrect. They are interested in remasters of their old popular IP that can be milked on the console market. Did you know AoE II Definitive Edition got an Xbox release? Play an RTS with a controller, get a subpar experience and make MS rich, what a delightful proposition.

P.S.: I, for one, am rooting for Sony. Ganbare, Sony-san! At least they brought one game to GOG, and that's one more than MS.
Not to mention. A lot of Youtubers praise the Xbox version. I can play any genre on Consoles but not RTS.
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idbeholdME: If the opposing side presented any valid arguments against it, it would not go through.
Yes I'm sure no valid argument has ever been ignore by regulators and politicians.
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TheBigCore: I wonder if this means anything for getting old games onto GOG like Heretic 2.
Oh you mean after the Merging process is finished? Theoretically it's possible, in reality it would require some serious internal cooperation between still different entities to not only agree on IP rights transferring or licensing but also, and it's the worst part, to try and collect all the legal documents from their dusty archiving.

The easiest solution for Heretic 2 re-release would be to allow id Software (not Bethesda) and Activision to co-publish the game along with the Hexen II: Portal of Praevus expansion.

I heard that a serious organization at the UK is going to try something else against Microsoft, so I beleive the Merging could be delayed a bit more. Also I don't trust Microsoft as a game company, I personally think that they taint everything they touch, however Gears Tactics and MS Flight Simulator look good, for me they are worse at dealing with their games' IP than EA.
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WinterSnowfall: Incorrect. They are interested in remasters of their old popular IP that can be milked on the console market. Did you know AoE II Definitive Edition got an Xbox release? Play an RTS with a controller, get a subpar experience and make MS rich, what a delightful proposition.
Ah right, my bad. I also remembered when they rereleased Flight Simulator X, alongside 200+ DLC packs. Truly, an old school prodigy to admire.
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WinterSnowfall: P.S.: I, for one, am rooting for Sony. Ganbare, Sony-san! At least they brought one game to GOG, and that's one more than MS.
If you want to be technical...
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Grargar: If you want to be technical...
You are indeed technically correct (perhaps the best kind of correct :), but we all know it was Tim Schafer who brought that game here, not the MS overlords.
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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: Good thing is there is still competition with good developers still remaining independent (FromSoft, PlatinumGames, CDPR, Rockstar) and the indie scene is producing alot of good stuff which can be just as good or better than many current AAA games that sell thanks to name branding and familiarity.
Why oh why is Rockstar, part of Take 2, the huge company, and the maker product that's most monetized of anything, in there with your others?

But, to OP, no. MS hates everything GOG and GOG-like. Increasingly. I was so hopeful when an engineer was put in charge (of course I should have never had any hopes because he has an MBA, which makes him inherently a useless person). But he's proven far worse than former leadership when it comes to anything even close to consumer friendliness.
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Timboli: ... hell, they might even purchase GOG one day ...
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WinterSnowfall: Let's call that day "Armageddon", so it's easier to remember when we refer to it.

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Grargar: Microsoft doesn't give a damn about their own old games, you think they'll give a shit about another company?
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WinterSnowfall: Incorrect. They are interested in remasters of their old popular IP that can be milked on the console market. Did you know AoE II Definitive Edition got an Xbox release? Play an RTS with a controller, get a subpar experience and make MS rich, what a delightful proposition.

P.S.: I, for one, am rooting for Sony. Ganbare, Sony-san! At least they brought one game to GOG, and that's one more than MS.
You don't need to use a controller, the game works on Xbox consoles with mouse and keyboard as well. Didn't you know that? Also, the game is "play anywhere" meaning it is a dual license game- one purchase works on both PC and console and saves carry across. Same goes for Flight Sim, I switched to console as it runs far better than my PC, my save carried over and I use mouse to control the menu and cockpit controls...just the same as PC. Opposite for Forza Horizon 3...I went from console to PC for that one. Everything carried over, didn't have to rebuy the game for a different platform.
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Gede: Personally, I don't care much about the impact of this acquisition on the short term. I am done waiting for Age of Empires or Diablo II here.

It is the long-term consequences of concentration of people, talent, and IP. That and the ability to affect the market and other companies.
Sure, there is a good indie scene going on, but big companies can buy them out, flood the market with copies or hire out their talent.. This is not a fair game.
Yeah, its why regulation should be a thing but regulators have been sleeping at the helm. Disney being able to buy up everything which is also stupid and is biting them in the butt as a result. Doesnt help that Disney is creatively bankrupt as well.

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mqstout: Why oh why is Rockstar, part of Take 2, the huge company, and the maker product that's most monetized of anything, in there with your others?
Eh, they still make good games that push the boundaries of gaming compared to EA which probably makes copy-paster employee of the month. Yeah, Im not a fan of Rockstar but I cant deny that RDR2 is a huge step for what gaming can be even if the game itself is dull and boring.
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WinterSnowfall: Let's call that day "Armageddon", so it's easier to remember when we refer to it.
Maybe so .... and armageddon out of here if it does happen. :(