vv221: That’s funny nobody mentioned yet that gitlab.com servers are hosted by… Microsoft ;)

mike_cesara: Taht';s not funny actually..

amund: They are moving Google servers now https://venturebeat.com/2018/04/06/why-and-how-gitlab-abandoned-microsoft-azure-for-google-cloud/

vv221: Greek poet Homer has already commented on this move.

Alaric.us: I think it's a great thing for GitHub. Microsoft has become amazing at open source and is actually the largest contributor to GitHub. Them running it will be awesome, especially considering the amount of resources they have.

What really annoys me is the amount of mass hysteria on reddit. People who foam at the mouth at the very mention of Microsoft have trashed all of my favorite programming subreddits with their unfounded paranoid drivel and idiotic comics that they think are memes.

As to Atom, I used it a while back, but these days prefer VS Code (by Microsoft), however, those who like Atom have nothing to worry about. It's open source, so it doesn't depend on who owns GitHub. Anyone who likes using it, or committing to the project will be able to continue as if nothing happened.

vv221: Moving from one centralized company-controlled place to another of the same kind would be quite stupid.

Oh, but maybe you were thinking of Gitlab the software, and not gitlab.com the Gitlab instance?

toxicTom: ... Why would MS pay 7.5 billion? That's no peanuts, even for a company like this.
Either GitHub is a lot more profitable than you think, or they're after something else. Remember they are held responsible by their shareholders - they must have a plan which justifies this kind of money.

timppu: Yeah we were like OhMiGod at work and thought what this might mean in the long run, even though MS plays like a good guy for now "yeah we care about the developers and open source and certainly it will stay open to all platforms blaa blaa blaa", and at the same time elsewhere MS is pushing Windows 10 S to laptops, trying to lock up the eco system...

Maybe GitHub will stay usable, but I proposed moving to e.g. GitLab or some other alternative... I already read somewhere that lots of projects have moved from GitHub to GitLab (and probably some others) due to this.

So didn't MS have a direct competitor before, CodePlex, but they shut it down (or put to read-only mode) last year? Yeah I guess they figured they can't compete against GitGub with CodePlex, so instead they closed down CodePlex and bought out GitHub. I guess when earlier MS suggested CodePlex users to migrate to GitHub, the smarter ones figured out MS is going to try to acquire GitHub.

One unrelated but interesting thing was also the fact that apparently GitHub was owned by a private company, and MS just bought it by showing enough money to the owner(s). This reminded me of some people here claiming earlier that Valve/Steam could never be bought out because they are a private company. I guess it just depends how much someone would be willing to pay for it. :)

Alaric.us: As to Atom, I used it a while back, but these days prefer VS Code (by Microsoft), however, those who like Atom have nothing to worry about. It's open source, so it doesn't depend on who owns GitHub. Anyone who likes using it, or committing to the project will be able to continue as if nothing happened.

wpegg: While I agree with the crux of your point about it being open source, and thus it will continue to be open, Oracle demonstrated with repeated and brazen attacks on open source that it's not ironclad protected. After acquiring java and milking it as an IP lawsuit, they ballsed up OpenOffice, forcing a fork to LibreOffice, Hudson had all its assets trademarked, forcing a fork to Jenkins. Both LibreOffice and Jenkins successfully moved the userbase, but for a while there was confusion as to which one was the "live" product. I seem to remember them screwing MySql pretty hard too.

We actually put Hudson in at my work just as it forked to Jenkins. Having got management buy in to change our tooling, we then go and install a tool that they hadn't approved (to them it is a different product), which was explainable, but a pain.

So remember everyone, whatever MS have done or might do to things, Oracle are the undisputed kings of fucking up OSS.

Alaric.us: And I want to once again mention the fact that MS has been very good to and for the Open Source community lately.

wpegg: Oracle demonstrated with repeated and brazen attacks on open source that it's not ironclad protected. After acquiring java and milking it as an IP lawsuit, they ballsed up OpenOffice, forcing a fork to LibreOffice, Hudson had all its assets trademarked, forcing a fork to Jenkins. Both LibreOffice and Jenkins successfully moved the userbase, but for a while there was confusion as to which one was the "live" product. I seem to remember them screwing MySql pretty hard too.

wpegg: So remember everyone, whatever MS have done or might do to things, Oracle are the undisputed kings of fucking up OSS.