That's what they said about the Jews back in 1938. And we all know how that turned out.

Pegida are Nazis. Their sympathisers are Nazi sympathisers. The fact that these far-left lunatics who have appointed themselves "Antifa" groups (what a ridiculous name - any decent citizen is "anti-fascist", it's not a position limited to the far-left) happen to be fighting the same fight, just by more reprehensible means, changes nothing about the fact that groups like Pegida, Britain First and the EDL need to be stopped - with force if necessary - before we see a repeat of the 1930s.

Because if we do see a repeat of it, I can assure you that you, people like you, as well as Nazis like Klumpen will see very, very unpleasant justice meted out.

If anything, the last year has proven to me that Europe has learned precisely fuck all from World War II. Europeans are just as prone to having their misguided sense of national pride as ever.

No one took him seriously Vaina... I thought of simply replying to him that they cried rape because it was rape, and Tarm kind of took the same approach almost immediately...

You are disgusting beyond words.

This is what ideologies to do people, the worst slander and hatred without a second thought.

I won't even delve into your recurring threats.

WTF? Do you think that conditional does anything to disguise the threat you just made?

Are you guys coordinating or something? Do you want to see this thread burn because you can't handle the truth?

If you've ever gone to a higher learning school than the one you're required to this will make you shake your head. Or get a drink if you're one of those people centered scholars. Then this will be right up your alley.

Edit: To clarify. Based on assumptions is abhorring.

Edit 2: Tone that down a bit please. :)

I hear lots of the same talk from people not aligned with any group like left or right (Which is a very small group really. I give it as a example.) but it's a bit like stating the obvious and then trying to find a objective solution and goal. That's where the fail usually occurs in our european societies.

Edit: Oh and I'd not put Klumpen in the Nazi group. He's got his heart in the right place. Just needs to get a little less paranoid. ;)

You people should stop throwing around this word like bonbons.

Nazi = National Socialist, a member of the national socialist party of Hitler. You disgust me, just because someone thinks that people with a certain cultural background do not fit well into a western society based on their value system and expresses a concern about it is far away from being a National Socialist. You, exactly you are the people who will bring a dictatorial/fascist system upon us, just because you curb a rational discourse about "existing problems" and finding the right way in the middle(democracy).

I apologize for the audacity and incompetence of the idiots in power, currently, here. Mostly, it is their own fault for all this. Tsipras even declared publicly recently that "sea has no borders". Kammenos, as i recall, even threatened european leaders to flood them with illegal immigrants, should they refuse to lower the conditions of the treaty (for the economic matters). They even changed the orders of the navy and code of conduct (for vessels and personnel), effectively turning them into a greeting and first aid parade committee; this is an inside info from a friend in the army.

Syriza is mad. They even called the common people for protests against... The government itself... People liking Syriza went to protest against... Syriza... And Syriza of course had policemen ordered to treat protestants to expired chemicals (teargas mostly), the very same stuff they used to shout against, when they had been second and third political power. They put out of jail economic criminals who stole big money, like former New Democracy politician Papageorgopoulos, wanted terrorist Ksiros, or kid murderer Romanos; they even sent him to the university and instead of reading, he continues shady activities. Everyone is infatuated with them, though, because they made the LGBT couples allowed to have economical/social benefits exactly like straight couples. I bet those LGBT people will be extra happy to be harassed and raped by all this colored, exotic filth. Or the leftist bastards; HOUSE and PET them if you like them so much, mothereffers, we don't want all this garbage polluting and threatening us! Now listen here, if you accept and treat well and kindly someone, besides the fact that NO ONE guarantees they will repay the favor or even say "thank" you, if you read books and research on spirituality, you would be abhorred to hell! For them, we have to be killed, tortured, sold out as slaves, trafficked, so they can go to Allah and eat rice, honey and virgin pussy! Well, you neither know nor care for anything religious, but those ingrates are ruled by THEOCRACY! Are you stupid? How will you turn them into crackpot left wing atheists like yourselves? Not even YOU are safe!

Answer me this. Why don't they go to a same religion/culture country that isn't plagued by war? In Turkey i hear, salaries got big raises recently and the economy is booming! Who are Syrians? 3 out of 10 people? The rest who are Africans, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, what on earth are they, do they have war there, too? Who are refugees? Women and children; what are young healthy men doing harassing foreigners instead of DEFENDING THEIR OWN DAMN HOMELAND? And finally, how do you expect an unfaithful bastard who even abandons his nation/country/whatever, to feel even the LEAST BIT connection to the one they are TAUGHT TO HATE? Are you nuts? Are "we" cruel? Answer those questions and you will get your answers quickly.

Enemy is always in the inside, working and sabotaging, defaming and ridiculing people whose best interest is their own people and land. Globalization failed before, now they are pushing it concealed and even violently. Prepare for big explosions. Trojan horse rings a bell? Nice gift, just open your walls and accept it. Your ruins will be found 3.000 years later, europe.-

*Those who never learned history are doomed to repeat all mistakes of the past*

I disagree with this guy's opinions = This guy is a nazi

That's basically the intellectual horizon of Germany. Das Land der Dichter und Denker, everyone! :D

Just to elaborate a little, but anti-fascist is basically just a code word for anti-german. "Bomber Harris do it again!" is one of their pet phrases, which funnily enough sounds like a pretty fascist statement.

As it wasn't enough, the investigation about the authour of the failed attack on a Parisian police station this week confirmed he's in fact a Tunisian who was living in a "shelter" for asylum seekers in Germany (Recklinghausen):

http://www.lexpress.fr/actualites/1/actualite/l-assaillant-du-commissariat-parisien-vivait-dans-un-foyer-de-refugies-en-allemagne_1752124.html

I think the nazi comparison from jamyskis was shitty, and feel compelled to say so.

But I do wish you or Klumpen would have done the same, stepped in and told sambo 12345 off. Or flanner, for that matter, before anyone else did.


This isn't so much about coordinated efforts as it is about standing up for what you personally believe in, especially if you strongly disagree with people roughly on the same "no" or "yes" side of the spectrum. It's the prerogative of the mob that while there may be ample disagreement within, the disagreement won't be openly shown for fear of weakening the mob.

Yes, we do have to guard ourselves against not stepping into the fascist world again, the world of unreasonable hate against and massive conspiracy theories about strangers. The world of simplistic enemy concepts from the "politically correct" via the "Gutmensch" to the "SJW". A world in which attacks on the actual free press are performed, and the ever necessary corrections of Afd facebook posts are interpreted as propaganda.

Today, we may not look for Nazis so much as the literal Mitläufer. Those who don't share the view, but do see cultural benefits in walking the same road. Those who don't speak up against the de facto atrocities in word and deed.

I don't even read Sambo's posts anymore since the SW-Spoiler thing and his history of flat out trolling.
Looking it up now, it's the usual bullshit. I don't have any connection to it and wonder why I should be compelled to read, let alone be responsible for it in any far fetched way. Sambo really isn't worth anyone's time.

jamyskys is doing repeated slander and threats though that go far beyond the usual bullshit.

I've warned people very often about giving the nationalists more power by too much media censorship aimed against them and nobody listened. As practically always I share exactly the same opinion as Maajid Nawaz and guess he is a Nazi too then.

Thanks again for showing your best side.

You will notice for example my reply to you was just "tone policing". I don't fundamentally disagree with anything you factually expressed to Sambo: you're standing up to what you believe in - and nothing super shitty in what you posted, other than the obvious ad hominem and some condescension...

The thing is Vaina, you seem to be the only one that thinks Sambo should be told off. We all think he's ranting and wrong, but for us, that's the end of it. A pithy reply establishing his wrongness was sufficient. We're not interested in helping him get more attention. We're also not - and this is where you disagree I guess - going to pile on and attack him. Because I assume most of us think he is sick or troubled somehow. Just look at how he posted: the lack of formatting, the lack of flow, the lack of source criticality that you went to the effort to prove - good job with that by the way...

Or in other words: punch up, not down? Because what exactly do you believe in when it comes to Sambo? He can't both be a malignant and effective piece of a broader movement deserving telling off, and at the same time be so obviously and demonstrably wrong to merit condescension... or how do you square that circle?

Yeah, sadly the term "Nazi" is often used this way in Germany. If you pull the Nazi card against someones opinion, then he`s automatically wrong and evil and nothing he says will be taken serious anymore.