Since this got bumped:

"less bro-centric" != LGBT. Less bro-centric means people born with vaginas. I can name more trans women "name" designers than non-trans women. The #1 effect of tech bro culture is depriving female-coded people of access to tech education way before they have a sexual orientation or can freely express their gender identity. Most "disruptors" are in-your-face gay-friendly where it pays for them to be so, even while they're busy disenfranchising the historical LGBT community in SF with their white picket fence parochialism. Saying anti-tech-broism means LGBT representation is like saying #BlackLivesMatter should concern itself with tanning bed harm awareness.

I can't read the article because it says "You are not authorized to access this page."

But for me bro-centric games are immature, and appeal more to younger audiences (usually anywhere from early-puberty teens to drunk college frat boys). Dudebro doesn't appeal to people who are more mature mentally.

Same here. I thought it is because I am a straight white meat-eating male who plays violent and sexist Russian video games, like The King's Bounty series.

Not sure if you are the same or why you are not worthy to see the article.

I don't care about any cum abbreviations. And to be absolutely honest: I don't even want to know about their existence! Just think about the shortcumings of abbreviated cum oO

Pleased, if there is some good reason for it and it really adds to the story, and it is not there just to appease the minorities or some such shit. Willem Dafoe's gay investigator character in The Boondock Saints was kinda cool, I liked it.

Negative, if it is tacked on for ideological reasons.

Overall though, I prefer games not containing too much of sexuality, sexual relationships etc. Now I wish Alyx in Half-life 2 would have been lesbian so that she would have left the male protagonist in peace. The world is crumbling around us, stop acting like a giggling schoolgirl.

For what it's worth, I didn't mind it at all e.g. playing a female character in Mirror's Edge (I bet she is lesbian anyway, I mean look at her), or a black bro in GTA San Andreas. The dating minigames in SA were kinda stupid.

Now, there's my man! :-) Sort of. You've been raised to equality, you know. And plausibly harness the fruits thereof.

Because as far as I can tell, the two of us are pretty much the only ones thus far to state an actual qualified opinion on the topic.

We are okei with LGBT content being written into games; you with reservations; I with strengthened will to a benefit of a doubt, because there is very little LGBT content in gaming at the moment.

There seems to be quite some: "it is irrelevant of course, not that I am in any way against LGBT - only I quite reasonably do not see any reason to endorse any such divisive writing. My reasons are quite rational and tangible - if LGBT could or should ever exist, I ... would not outright denounce it - but it should not, really."

Your chance, gamers with hostility or little solidarity to LGBT fellow gamers to make your point!

Why do I say "sort of" to you, Timppu?

Because you only have a flippant comments about It but not that many actual observations. This Alyx you criticize - but when end is nigh, pretty normal Finns sought some comfort and continuity - my mother was conceived during the war. Maybe my grandpa and grandma should have kept their pants on - but I am not one to criticize. Mirros's Edge, GTA - not my games, you have at it.

In my high-fantasy RPG fandom, let me state what I have remarked thus far:

- BioWare: Knights of the Old Republic. Juhani - per spin of BW - was supposed to be lesbian, but due to a "bug" could be romanced by a male hero too. Sheesh. But an absolute first, either way.

-BioWare: Dragon Age Origins. Leliana & Zevran both have a "bi-sex-rogue" option attached. Leliana well written, as far as I can tell - Zev a charming solider of fortune.

- Reality Pump: Two Worlds 2. The Captain, aka Fallanon. Surprisingly insightful, maybe a bit problematic in context, but Fal is fine!

- CD Project Red: The Witcher 2. Dethmold. It is quite well documented I find his pimple popping and slave raping characterization homophobic. He is plausibly homosexual, if bi - this would require equal opportunities raping off screen.

- BioWare: Dragon Age 2 - bi all around, and why not! Anders has nice spin for a homo romance though; and I am glad I switched to male Hawke because Isabela romance has charming cheeky lines!

- BioWare: Dragon Age Inquisition - finally a proper homo and lesbian char, and a trans were written. Dorian, Sera and Krem. Well done, BioWare! Plus some "pan-sexual" options - I admit I lol'ed in a positive way that such word was invented! Power to you BW...


Dethmold and Fal were secondary chars, the rest mainly bi-romanceable - and Dragon Age Inquisition went all in in writing specific content for the LBGT.

But from my perspective - all in all in view of all games put out to the market - this is some content, but having more would make gaming more immersive for some - and make it worse for none!

Or?

I have to admit I am not quite sure whom you mean by "their existence"?

I can easily write out LBGT - and you know what it means - but if you cannot accept those persons as your fellow man, and gamers, it matters little. And why you might not - this is what intrigues me. Pray tell me!



Edit: grammatical correction of "quite whom" to "quite sure whom" in the first sentence.

Don't even try to understand my post. I was just making a stupid comment because of your (repeated) use of the word "cum". It doesn't mean what you think that it means. Cum is what spurts out of... your wee wee when you or someone else strokes it for a while. And if you use it as a verb (Syrians cum Iraqis) it describes the process of getting cum out of your wee wee.

Please, avoid using this word ;)

Don't you worry - I do not waste energy in trying understand your discomfort because I can only do so abstractly & intellectually.

Let it thought be said that should I take you abstractly and intellectually you should be a man with a latent gay erotic desires; but in a denial of them. These are, for your information, the best cum the worst gay haters, converging. Academically speaking, at least. ;-)

In my heart I want everyone to love gaming with utmost immersion - and morally I know that to be right too. That is the battle dream, to me.

With you too, if you think alike of others.

Discomfort? Because of too much cum in/on your postings? No, definitely not. Your postings are yours. You can cum over them as often as you want.

WOW! So my fear of abbreviated cum is a sign of suppressed homoerotic desires? That's some deep shit right there ;)

These are, take it or leave it, the fastest out there! I have cum to the conclusion that you are not - neither red, nor at night. My grandfathers fought hard for this right of ours, so I won't give in that easily! But I accept that you have another opinion. Maybe time will teach gaming about how. There's no turning back of pink car yellow flying.


O.O


No, seriously, TSteal, I have no idea what the heck you're talking about. What you say doesn't make any sense. It looks like English words and the syntax doesn't seem that wrong either. But... It just makes no sense at all oO What the hell does "These are, for your information, the best cum the worst gay haters, converging. Academically speaking, at least. ;-)" mean?

I get that English isn't your first language. It isn't my first language either and I'm pretty sure I make some funny mistakes too, but... but you? You're just... WOW! You're like alphabet soup hitting the fan! I have a really hard time understanding anything you write. I don't even get how you made the transition from "Hey, TSteal, please take note that 'cum' doesn't mean what you think that it means" to "you should be a man with a latent gay erotic desires; but in a denial of them" oO

I'm smirking... I'm grinning... :)

Some of us women are of course also intolerant, but since we and gay men fancy the same thing - and feel often woman-to-woman solidarity - we are generally more chillax about LGBT.

In case you might have less enthusiastic attitudes towards LGBT (= this be the "discomfort") the most plausible reason for men is according to studies is latent discomfort with gay-eroticism.

You must have read about the US (typically Republican) Senate members whom have attaced gays even quite vehemently in public life; only to be caught in public toilets soliciting services from male prostitutes? And on clinical study conditions, those men most strongly declared against homosexuals had the strongest neural response (or hard-on) to gay-porn. (Henry Adams - University of Georgia).

But rest easy: there are other groups more probable to feel negative stereotypes about homos.

And those are: older persons; those living on the country side; those favouring traditionalist gender roles; those favouring authoritarianism; the religious; those least educated; and men. (Pekka Santtila - Abo Akademie)


Quite a bit of choice there - but I would in any case be happier if you simply felt solidarity to all your fellow gamers; LGBT included. You do?

Simple, is it not? Or you still have difficulty with the two lines above? ;-)

The only difficulty I have is to find the topic we two are discussing about oO Seriously... I say "Cherries are delicious" and you answer "But CERN's LHC could create a black hole!". I tell you that I was talking about cherries and not about science and you give me an even longer post about black holes. Le fuq?

Video games are toys/appliances meant for entertainment, nothing more. Feminists and their ilk have been infiltrating gaming for years, running the bullshit line that games are "art" - but in reality what they really want is to use video games as a method of disseminating left-wing propaganda.

I always lol at people who unironically use the term "homophobia". Lol I'm not "afraid" of homosexuals, I just find them revolting.