Well, I think an article that calls Gone Home a "horror game" is not doing anyone any favors.

Also: LGBT characters have been represented in games since the 80s and the "bro-centric" video game industry is just as annoying to anyone with good taste, no matter the sexual preference.

nvm

"last of us" confirmed?

LGBT?

Meh, I prefer BLT

How about FTL?

Seriously though... I really don't care. I want good games with good stories and interesting characters. Whether they are male, female, gay straight, white, black, from Earth or from Andoria - I don't care.

And Dethmold? ;-)

It must be clear by now that this single CHAR is the reason I have not pre-ordered and thus far played The Witcher 3. To my regret, but so it must be, because I think that gaming joy should be universal and subject to certain solidarity.

It is not the point of having an evil homo character - not quite so. But let it be said when I posted that I could take Dethmold maybe better in my stride as a BioWare character, I got downrepped.

It was the pimple popping, genitalia cutting and slave raping - on surplus to the rest of the (generally negative) characterisation.

Plus CD Project Red not having had any positive homosexual CHARs, and Poland constitutional court giving green light to an anti-homo party insignia, topically, at the time.

I think Dethmold would have been better written, had ne died in a proper combat duel, torn away from the arms of his love(r), and not as a begging cowardly rapist with mutilation in store.

So indeed, there we go, in agreement! ;-)

Negative again, o honorific horkarl? ;-)

The OP, I think, was gently asking if we as a fora might consider positive gaming solidarity, not aiming to debate gaming genre definitions.

And I am all in for that - positive gaming solidarity, that is - what about u?

Besides matters of principle, I tend to find that gaming houses that write for all, tend to have quite some good story telling going on. (BioWare, Obsidian, Larian, Bethesda etc)

But of course even the principle matters too. Gaming joy should be inclusive, and hopefully subject to a certain solidarity.

I know you wont care for my opinion but here we go anyway.
I agree with the top response in the article itself
"Also be sure to check out Coming Out on Top by ObscuraSoft!"

Snowflake, (I know how you hate non Tumbler pronouns) the gaming pool is more diverse then it ever was, and if you still cannot find a game for you out there, then make it. The cost of entry to this ride is very little because we want to be inclusive, but it is a bring your own, not bitch until we all want to leave.

The article is nothing more then pompus circle-jerking.
I am not a girl, but I can play Tomb Raider and not feel like I am ill-at-ease. I can play a fat, cream blob in Saints Row and feel like its fun. I can even play a skinny red rectangle and find fun. I do not need to play a fat white middle aged man to engage with a game.
Looking or identifying as the character you play does nothing for how good a game is. If that is truly how you judge a good game I tell you, you are going to miss out on some really great games and get stuck with some atrocious trash like Sunset.

I'm glad someone finally took the bait and made a guess. So... that would rock...

I don't care about the issue that much, I've always cared more for how the story game play integration works. If they want to do something like that then the writing is what's important not whether every last denomination has been checked off the list.

Are you being a bit unkind about the dinges until Snowflake, there? If not, well - think about it.

And I am not a boy, but the only game where I voluntarily and quite to my pleasure play a male hero is DA2 - Nicholas Boulton's voice performance is so great that I cannot have gotten over it thus far! :-D

Besides, I choose a female hero, except just once I rolled a male inki to romance Dorian, but will desist because the romance was less than the character of Dorian, IMO.

If the char is tolerable, I can do male, and even like it, like in Risen 2.

So been there, done that, even twice - but do not see the wish for wider immersion as superfluous. I really have enjoyed my story driven heroine to win the day in Baldur's Gate, NWN2, DA:O - as I love my male Hawke.

But I doubt I would have loved my Male Hawke so much if I did not have my gallery of female heroes handy.

So there! LBGT welcome to the gaming joy as much I love to love it - and I also defend GTA and the macho immersionists on the same solidarity principle, thou from a different cup they might drinking their tea...



Edit: DA2 = Dragon Age 2. Plus Dorian is from Dragon Age Inquisition - plus hopefully in Dragon Age 4, with a better romance with him; and better gameplay for PC fans! :-D

The general impression I got was that it was saying, "How can we stop games from pandering to one group and cause them to pander to another?"

Speaking entirely for myself, games that exist as soulless face-shooters are boring and "bros" annoy the hell out of me. Games that exist as thinly-veiled propaganda (LGBT or otherwise) are boring and annoying, too. Harassment is bad and everyone knows it, but I've also seen writers like this overblow things in order to manufacture victims and feed a false narrative.

Basically, I just wish people would be and make whatever the hell they want and shut up about it. And I wish people let other people be and make what they wanted without needing to make an issue out of it (and that goes for people on both ends of the spectrum). Can't we just let bros be bros, gays be gays, and games exist the way developers want to make them without needing to make the industry more or less this or that?

I admit this whole thing is beyond me. I never wonder what is the sexual orientation of the characters I play. This whole 'we have to make LGBT people more visible in games' can only go through 'sexualizing' videogames, which is most of the time unnecessary (in a slice of life game or dating sim why not. Anywhere else : why ?).

I really don't care the least of the sexual orientation of the marines I impersonate in Battlefield : the only reason to explicitly portray LGBT characters in such a game would be to educate young people on 'this exits, it is normal'. But it would also be hamfisted.

This "let's make this less that" is quite a grab-and-pull-the-pillow-before-them-because-they-won't-let-you-have-it-if-you-let-your-guard-down stance. And in this article the whole "let's make you getting laid" is incredibly sleazy, having that displayed in such an article is a borderline obsessed behaviour in my opinion.