In watto's voice: "appeals to emotion don't work on me, only sound logic"

As I told someone in the main thread: DRM is likely not going away from the gaming market any time soon....and no, some having more/less tolerance to some things isn't what's keeping it that way.

You know what might change things, though? More people buying more DRM free versions of games, and buying less DRM laden game versions(or buying at a deep discount and/or used).....and not some people (generally speaking) complaining that others aren't anti-DRM free enough.

Also another good thing to try is to politely/civilly try to convince others to buy less DRM laden games & more DRM free games, and if people choose not to one should respect said stances/etc & move on.

LMAO. Of course it is. From DRM on "DRM-Free" stores and lootboxes in PC games to fake coins to unlock fake timers in mobile games, reliance on apathy is 100% what causes a lot of negative industry mechanics to become tolerated then "mainstreamed". That's not an "appeal to emotion", it's simple observable reality and far from being "illogical", introducing anti-consumer traits in consumer products through gradual incrementalism combined with apathy reliance is literally taught as an entire "Consumer Expectation Recalibration" sub-topic for MBA's...

And you know what might help with that? Having the DRM-Free store actually sell a DRM-Free version in the first place...

Move on to where? It's one thing to fail to convince someone to buy a DRM-Free GOG version of a game and let them be happy with their choice of a DRM'd Steam version. It's quite something else when widespread apathy actively encourages GOG to simply sell a DRM'd Steam-like version instead of a DRM-Free GOG version, so there is no "choice" to "choose" from. It's borderline trolling at that point to pretend the issue is "lack of politeness" towards the same useful idiots who enabled that situation in the first place, on top of having a long track record of passively enabling the mainstreaming of other trash in the gaming industry (lootboxes, pay2win, etc) on the back of same apathy in the past...

Grandmaster Chess: This game is 100% DRM-free, but you need an internet connection to be able to unlock the Queen's move-set.

Psh. That's easy. Just leave your PC running 24/7 (and hope it doesn't crash). Ye olde NES trick. ;)

Haha, I remember my brother doing that with The Incredibles game, I think, because his PS2 memory card was busted. He couldn't save, so he leff his PS2 on. I think he lost all progress during a power hiccup at the uni halls, or something.

Does this include Leisure Suit Larry 4?

Of course; only difference is that LSL4 is entirely available always online only with nudity scenes as microtransactions with price depending on body part(s) and explicitly! ;-)

What I mean is, as long as a large enough number of people push back against DRM, it doesn't matter much if some are more/less strict in how they do so. Of course, getting enough to do so is another matter.

And speaking of: the "movement" to push back against DRM can't grow much if we(gamers) are all pointing fingers at/mocking each other for things like not liking how others stand against DRM free.

.....case in point......

To whom.....in this case, others who are willing to hear one out on the topic and maybe have their minds changed re: such things.

What's the total price of all the nudity scenes?

Classy :)

Witcher 3. You can only do main quests . No Bounty quests, no Witcher weapon and armor sets, no side quests (even the excellent Bloody Baron Quest) unless you log in with your Galaxy account and stay logged in.

Completely DRM-Free, right guys?

When you want to pull your favorite Harry Potter book off the shelf, and a man in a suit and glasses demands to see your receipt before you can open it. Otherwise inside it's unreadable garbage (or blank). Said man in suit&glasses may hover your shoulder the entire time to snatch the book up if you let go of it for a second, and will interject if you try to lend your book to anyone else.

And maybe he'll be a total ass and rip up your receipt and demand you pay for it again.

If you manage to sell your book to a friend or at a sale, mysteriously 4 chapters at the end will be missing unless you pay for the missing chapters.

Here's one, applied to some game that uses password saves:

The game is 100% DRM-free, except that the save feature works as follows:
* The game sends its state to a remote server.
* The server generates a password, and sends it to the game.
* The game then displays the password, which the player then needs to write down.
(If the server can't be accessed, the game will fail to save.)

Loading works as follows:
* The player enters the password that was previously obtained. (Hopefully the player didn't make a mistake.)
* The game sends the password to the server.
* The server loads the game state associated with the password and sends the saved game state back to the game.
* The game then loads that state.
(If the server can't be accessed, the game will fail to load. If the player makes a mistake with the password, most likely the server will respond with a "bad password" message, which then gets passed on to the user, and the game does not load.)

Now, this approach does have an advantage, in that it provides cloud saves without the user needing an account; however, if it's the only way to save, it can be a problem, particularly if internet is down or the server is discontinued. Also, it has the same annoying issue that classic password saves have, in that the password has to be written down properly and manually re-entered, which could be a problem (and means that you need to copy the password by hand).

Total price, what total price!? Each scene has a wheel of fortune with different prices and you get a spin for 0,99 €/$ on that wheel for each scene separately!

The first time I encountered serious DRM was upon installing a retail copy of Mass Effect. I owned the physical copy, yet had to register online and, as far as I can remember, stay online in order to play. I remember the feeling that this was just wrong. It was an eye-opener. Then, fortunately, I happened upon GOG. It's been my haven against DRM ever since. But now I'm getting worried. The enemy of free gaming has infested these waters. What's next?

Will Tencent buy CD project red, GOG included, for that precious foothold in the western market?