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Brasas (2): Nacho, Wyrm
Drealmer (1): Trent
Nacho (1): Drealmer
Lift (1): Brasas

Not voting (5): PMich, Lift, Trial, Hunter, Darko

Maj = 6, Brasas closest to being smurfed into the Smurfmatic Smurfmotabulator at L-4.

Deadline is now Thursday 11/17 at 1:30 PM.

Let me know if your vote is not where you want it
Post edited November 14, 2016 by bler144
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drealmer7: Cool, no ire, then we're good as far as I'm concerned. I didn't mean to put you in a bad light, I was trying to be pre-emptive with my lurk-concerns is all. It was meant to be playful and friendly, as I always seem to try and do with you and never can seem to get right. I should have kept it general or not said anything, sorry, really.

You do seem a LITTLE touchy about it, but, we rub I know and so I'ma read the contention as town-trent (as always is the case with me and you) - I just want peace.

the mushroom bong with smurfweed is a play-thing, not real, a symbolic peace-offering is all

you could RP your character to be into it!
there are LOTS of reasons, but I'll keep it basic:

let's say there's 3 scum, the 10th slot was made a traitor

now he knows what you think and can use it to his advantage
I'm not touchy at all, and again if you are reading it that way it's on you. I would have said the same thing to anyone who tried to cast shade on someone so early in the game, you just happened to be the one to do it.

And as far as the "metaphorical" bong, I still have no desire to accept it. I don't do any drugs in play or real life, sorry.
This totally feels like town trent. If I didn't know better, I'd be calling him scummy for these interactions (again, I wasn't throwing shade, I was pre-empting a potential issue - and normally I'd harp on him for this twisting and for being cold when I'm just trying to work together, but, no, this is town trent as I love him, pretty sure.)

And this is why I poke and push people. To get a read. And there I did. Weee! I love mafia!

-EDIT-

re-reading that I think the term "normally" isn't accurate and it should actually be "previously"

that wasn't an "edit" that was a "new post" so I could EBWOP, but was confident in the merge, so called it an edit

to be clear
Post edited November 14, 2016 by drealmer7
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Lifthrasil: Hereby I am smurfing in for the smurf!
Are you still with us Mr. four armed Smurf?
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bler144: Please do not post - game still closed.
oops, I think I missed quoting this one
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Hunter65536: Seems like a bit of an overreach to me, if the Matrix itself is balanced setup then the 10th role wouldn't be something that would tip the balance in side of any particular team, that is my opinion on 10th slot.
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gogtrial34987: Does this comment mean you don't share the opinion of your fellow smurfs about the inadvisability of role/setup speculation?
There's a significant difference between role speculation and setup speculation, don't you think?

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drealmer7: This totally feels like town trent. If I didn't know better, I'd be calling him scummy for these interactions (again, I wasn't throwing shade, I was pre-empting a potential issue - and normally I'd harp on him for this twisting and for being cold when I'm just trying to work together, but, no, this is town trent as I love him, pretty sure.)

And this is why I poke and push people. To get a read. And there I did. Weee! I love mafia!

-EDIT-

re-reading that I think the term "normally" isn't accurate and it should actually be "previously"

that wasn't an "edit" that was a "new post" so I could EBWOP, but was confident in the merge, so called it an edit

to be clear
This read is pretty murky; he's town because he's doing something that's typically scummy and misrepping and being rude...? Did I get that one right?
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Brasas: But just out of curiosity, how soon after Nacho did you vote heh?
I have no clue. I replied to your post when I saw it.

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Brasas: So derp or scum u think?
Does anyone remember aplz4? I remember aplz4.

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Brasas: PS: That's a fruity pun for you... I went with the bluish fruit ofc...
Did you know that blueberries are butt ugly on the inside? Seriously, cut one open sometime and look. Yuck.

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gogtrial34987: But I'm guessing now that since scum currently has a big advantage with knowledge (knowing each other), that thinking would be even more advantageous to them?
Scum only need to out one PR to know the setup (exception: tracker, and even then they know what sort of power they'll have to deal with) (excludes the extra role). So I suggest either claim or drop it. Preferably just drop it. The possibilities for the 10th role are too wide to start giving clues to scum.

It's probably a parity cop though, that greatest of all cops.

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Nachomamma8: The argument that I'm addressing is the chances for him to be scum doing it to gain an advantage for the team; I don't think that is particularly likely because I don't think that new scum players tend to take big risks right out of the gate.
There is an interesting subtext here: Trial would understand the level of risk even though he's newbie scum.

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gogtrial34987: 24 hours since the game opened now, and nothing yet from Lift or (substantially) from Hunter.
Are you satisfied with everyone else's participation thus far?

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trentonlf: I don't do any drugs in play or real life, sorry.
Not a skooma fan?

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drealmer7: If I didn't know better, I'd be calling him scummy for these interactions
And that is by far the most interesting implication thus far.

Unvote Blackened Smurf
Vote Weedy Smurf

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Speculation: Drealmer and Trial aren't scum buddies.

-I like Nacho's thought process for the extra role being town. The logic feels pretty solid, and I like the mindset that I sense behind the post.
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Nachomamma8: This read is pretty murky; he's town because he's doing something that's typically scummy and misrepping and being rude...? Did I get that one right?
Yep. That is how I read trent. Over and over and over and over in games I read this exact behavior as scummy and pushed push pushed him a lot and always read him scum and he would always be town. Couple times he wasn't town I got different feelings (figured him as the non-SK SKin bler's last game) than this and he was different. But this is through and through town trent.

OF COURSE WATCH ME BE FuCKING WRONG! (note to those not familiar with these forums, they don't let you use ALL CAPS on a majority of CURSE words, and so if a post of yours is not going through, copy/past it while it twirls, start a new post, amend the words, and re-submit.)

But, no...not going there.

Honestly even if I come to think trent is scum this game I probably won't go after him too hard, I'll just vote him and tell my reasons and leave it alone. He and I have some soreness (to put it mmmmildly?) and I don't want to make it sorer. I'm glad to have him playing and value him as a part of this community and I won't jeopardize that.
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drealmer7: If I didn't know better, I'd be calling him scummy for these interactions
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Bookwyrm627: And that is by far the most interesting implication thus far.

Unvote Blackened Smurf
Vote Weedy Smurf
I know better because of my history with trent, that whenever I "feel" him like this, he's town. You've got to know that and are just poking me / doing the twisty word thing you do trying to get a reaction!
Post edited November 14, 2016 by drealmer7
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Bookwyrm627: Not a skooma fan?



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I never did try it in Skyrim so I guess not :P
When I play video games and they have drug options I pretty much never take them. Not even buffs in the form of synthetics (like when I play Fallout 1+2, I play drug-free, or Skooma when I tried played Morrowind + Oblivion those couple times, never taken one.)

Personally, I don't take anything synthetic, ever. No tylenol, no cough medicine, no LSD, nothing. All natural (and organic!) for me, always, and I usually play that way in games because I like to usually "be my ethical self" in games.

You know, as I go around killing shit and looking through everyone's trash.
I have a pretty busy and stressful week ahead of me, but I should be around at least once a day for good enough chunks that I won't fall behind / lack participation as far as I see it.
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Bookwyrm627: Unvote Blackened Smurf
Vote Weedy Smurf
Considering I'd seen this 4-5 times before I even questioned if I should accept it, I guess I'm accepting it as it meets my previously stated requirements: Bolded, and clear to whom it refers.


The I'm going to bed vote count

Drealmer (2): Trent, Wyrm
Brasas (1): Nacho
Nacho (1): Drealmer
Lift (1): Brasas

Not voting (5): PMich, Lift, Trial, Hunter, Darko

Maj = 6, Drealmer closest to being smurfed into the Smurfmatic Smurfmotabulator at L-4.

Deadline is now Thursday 11/17 at 1:15 PM.

Let me know if your vote is not where you want it.
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Brasas: So derp or scum u think?
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Bookwyrm627: Does anyone remember aplz4? I remember aplz4.
I don't know if the "no outside links" rule applies here, but assuming it does, do you still happen to have a game number or other way for me to track down this reference? Would be interested to know what you're inferring, too.

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Bookwyrm627: Are you satisfied with everyone else's participation thus far?
No. JMich, Darko and Hunter all have made only a single post I'd classify as "non chit-chat". Hoping they'll step it up. Others might infer things from their silence based on previous experience, but I don't have even that.
(By the by, what do you think of drealmer and trent's interaction on the subject of lurking = scummy in itself, more than the following interaction?)
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gogtrial34987: ... it's not nice to hear yourself called naive and realize that it's probably a fair assessment ...
You naive? Whatever gave you that idea? Inexperience is not naivete...

No judgement from me, you can confess to us ;) it's hard to play scum without having played town before ain't it?

Provo aside, I don't have the time right now, but I'll come back to chat more later. :)

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Nachomamma8: Ah, I was expecting this; ...
It's not my fault you overeacted when your buddy got the minimal amount of heat.
Heck, I was already backing off from him as it was... now I'm wondering if he is the scum PR or sumth?

And what a softball at him that was. Pity he kind of fumbled it?




So... how are you doing? How do you feel about the Oakwood game? :)
I waited and waited for you in the thread, and you never came back... :'(
It really is Tammy's fault... she made it all go wrong! No wonder she also didn't dare come back! ;)

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Nachomamma8: There's a significant difference between role speculation and setup speculation, don't you think?
heh

If it wasn't clear, I also will come back to chat more later... already took me longer than I thought to decide how to handle the drama and pathos of this scene...

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Bookwyrm627: Does anyone remember aplz4? I remember aplz4.
I rem an avatar with green and purple tones? An exageratd Gorillaz like artstyle of a grinning mug of some kind?

But what the heck does it have to do with anything of relevance o cryptic one?

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Bookwyrm627: There is an interesting subtext here: Trial would understand the level of risk even though he's newbie scum.
Don't call it subtext - call it what it is - a defense via assumption / implication. I'm glad I'm not the only to have noticed it, and I'm still wondering on what Nacho based that character judgement. Because the answer might be N0 chat I guess I'll go on waiting...

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Bookwyrm627: Are you satisfied with everyone else's participation thus far?
What I like about you is how much can be unpacked from the little you say...

He answered this softie much better huh? Clearly learns fast...

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Bookwyrm627: Speculation: Drealmer and Trial aren't scum buddies.
What I hate about you is how much can be unpacked from the little you say...

Really not Nacho?
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Hunter65536: Seems like a bit of an overreach to me, if the Matrix itself is balanced setup then the 10th role wouldn't be something that would tip the balance in side of any particular team, that is my opinion on 10th slot.
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gogtrial34987: Does this comment mean you don't share the opinion of your fellow smurfs about the inadvisability of role/setup speculation?
Role speculation this early is bad I understand that but I felt that talking possible alignments for 10th role would not carry any of those risks the former does IMO.