drealmer7: The issue is that there is spectrum of balance for the variety of choices the setups entails. If each of us were to start speculating about what the 10th role might be, we very well could start revealing what we may or may not know about the matrix, and that is not something we want to do. Best to just scumhunt.
With that, I'm going to make a civil request.
We've got 10 players here, today. That is not many. Each of us should be participating. There should be no lurking.
There is trouble is smurfland, and we must all be smurfy to smurf out the unsmurfly.
Now, I know it's saturday and the game is just getting started, but come sayyyy, monday at some point, I'm going to start pushing on anyone I feel isn't giving enough in the hope to achieve a smurftopia. We even had a N0, so, yeh, monday. *looks at JMich and trent*
trentonlf: Any particular reason you are trying to single out me and JMich? It's less than 24 hours since the game officially started and on a weekend. I'm sorry if I have other things to do and can't post every few hours to satisfy your desire of gabbing. Point of fact it is rare that I am inactive, and after Day 1 JMich gets more involved when there is actual info to go on. I don't appreciate the shade, and yes singling out me and JMich for possible lurking is shade when the game has only started.
My Darko vote was in jest, but shade casting already I find scummy.
Unvote DarkoD13
Vote drealmer7 Trent, can you explain the rationale behind this vote?
The reason why I think it's scum-motivated is because it seems like a vote that pretty luckily ended up on scum for something that really wasn't a good reason; Drealmer said that he's going to start pushing on lurkers in two days (while acknowledging that the game hadn't really gotten started); trent's response was to say that "you're singling out me and JMich, you're shading us, scum", and, to the best of my knowledge, that was his approach for the rest of the game. The number 1 thing that I look for as far as motivation is "does this seem like a genuine thought process? does this look like something someone would actually think?" and it doesn't really line up at all. I'll also note that it's pretty common for unexperienced scum to vote a partner far too early when they think they're flailing and here it makes sense; Drealmer is known for getting mislynched early a lot of the time, trent doesn't really have confidence in him to go the long game. It also makes sense because there wasn't really a counterwagon to drealmer for the entirety of the day and no real attempts to make one; this is a sign that scum was bussing or else during a day where no one was doing anything for the entire day it would have been trivial to jump on a townie's incorrect suspicion and get something started (Brasas's on Trial, mine on JMich).
drealmer7: This totally feels like town trent. If I didn't know better, I'd be calling him scummy for these interactions (again, I wasn't throwing shade, I was pre-empting a potential issue - and normally I'd harp on him for this twisting and for being cold when I'm just trying to work together, but, no, this is town trent as I love him, pretty sure.)
And this is why I poke and push people. To get a read. And there I did. Weee! I love mafia!
Then there's this, which is drealmer's response to trent which also seems to be bending over backwards in order to townread him (and is also incidentally the first drealmer post that bothered me). The logic drealmer is presenting is that trent's approach towards him is wrong and misrepping but he's
town as a result - as trent said, it's difficult to make up reasons to attack people, so if a townie is misrepresenting you and presenting the view of you completely out of whack, why would drealmer still townread him as a result?
I believe that all of drealmer's statement of "peace, here, let's have peace, calm down, let's be friends" is drealmer begging his buddy to stop bussing him; notice how his reaction to trent is completely different from his reaction to anyone else that's pushing him, can't really understand why it would be so... wanting to scumread him and not scumreading him unless it's coming from the perspective of scum who doesn't want to get stuck with him and his partner bussing each other for the entirety of Day 1.