No, it's actually shame on you for both situations, especially since the drealmer bandwagon was not "exciting" enough to vote for.



Really? You didn't smell his despair in suddenly going after me with OMGUS because I put some pressure on him? Is it now "a towny move to vote for drealmer" when it was already obvious from yesterday that mafia would leave him alive for D2?
If he's mafia they don't kill him. If he's town they leave him for us. Very advanced and unexpected tactics, I know.

Now I'm reading the game thread.

Either this is complete bollocks, or you're missing some brain cells.

Anyone should have been able to realize that no jailer means there is some other town PR in play which would automatically know you are lying about your claim. What do we do with liars, again?

Also, you're claiming to be a town roleblocker, when the grid already allows for a similar power AND specifically has a scum with that power?

Town Jailer was a great fake claim...if you're scum.

If you are town this is why you don't lie, although I think you are either scum or a neutral role of some sort. Either way we should have lynched you yesterday.

Vote drealmer7

D2 Vote Count

Drealmer (4): Trial, Hunter, Wyrm, Trent

Not voting (4): Jmich, Nacho, Darko, Drealmer

Drealmer is closest to being smurfed into the Smurfmatic Smurfmotabulator at S-1.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you online after you unvoted drealmer? Did you follow the thread until the Nightfall?


Well, that seems uncharacteristically harsh of you.

About the only person in this game who might have gotten away with "I didn't know we (almost) always lynch liars!" is gogtrial. And I'd still look at him hard.

If Drealmer truly thought that Jailkeeper was not in the game, then he must have thought that at least one of Cop/Doctor/Tracker are in the game. If any of those three are in the game, then they would immediately know that Jailer is NOT in the game, and that Drealmer is lying about being a jailer.

If he was the 10th role, then town Drealmer should have claimed the 10th role. I see no good rationale for fake claiming the way he did in such a restricted setup.

It may seem harsh, but his claimed thought process has an awful lot of holes for someone who should know better on multiple accounts.

At the time he claimed, I was about halfway through with rereading the thread, specifically looking at him and nacho from a "possible scum" perspective, figuring out which wagon I should join. My conclusions up to that point were that I believed him to be town. I saw "despair", but I bought it as town-originated.
If he had been town, I don't believe scum would've left him alive; a successful roleblock/protect by him would give us far too much information for scum to want to risk it. (Is that too simplistic? I know my werewolf experience doesn't carry over 1:1, but that definitely held in the games I've played wrt the seer, and although this particular information wouldn't be quite as clear as what a seer would know, it certainly should be a big deal.)

Should one of us back off for a few hours to prevent a hammer before the missing smurfs have had a chance to give their initial reactions?

I was, and I believed his claim yesterday so I didn't vote again. What I'm saying now is we should have lynched him yesterday after what's happened.

There was no reason to rush to kill him, especially if mafia have a RB, because there was a decent chance of mislynching him later anyway.

No. Lets murder him and be done with it, before anything else goes wrong. Or throw him in the Smurfmatic Smurfmotabulator.

Actually, take his wallet first, so we can check the ID card after he's dead. Or gone, w/e.

Can anyone explain this to me? Posted after the claim. I don't get it.

Weird.

Vote: Drealmer7



Holy shit I just suck at voting today!
I guess what meant to say is that I'm claiming intent and hammering drealmer in 10 minutes! I don't really think there's anything interesting to say today.

Who needs JMich, right?

I expect that he thought there was not enough time left to finish the drealmer lynch even if he counter-claimed, so he was trying to survive the night. I suspect that Drealmer was unable to do anything last night.

Vote: drealmer7

There we go!