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Bookwyrm627: Honestly, I don't think people will be as critical of you hammering me as you seem to think.
I don't know what yog saw, even though I was here at the time. But I was reading filtered posts for like 2 hours, so I think I was half-blind when he said he just saw something.

Anyway, this comment has been bugging me all day, since I thought I'd remembered you saying the opposite earlier on. And sure enough in 475 you said "Also, the hammer vote tends to be scrutinized by townies precisely to check for a scum finishing a townie off."

I'm curious how you square those two, seemingly contradictory, points. It's not as if I'm standing free and clear outside suspicion now. Perhaps ironically, they would seem to only square if you flip as something other than town, no?
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bler144: I don't know what yog saw, even though I was here at the time.
Obiously, he can see through time.
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yogsloth: I still feel pretty good about it, though. :)
Been awhile since I've been responsible for crushing someone's dreams so thoroughly.

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trentonlf: Let me ask you a question, what would be the point of me chasing after more than one person at a time?
I didn't say you had to chase after more than one person at a time. My concern was that I couldn't see you even noticing more than one person at a time. If you never make any mention at all that you are assessing more than your current target, then I don't feel safe assuming you are doing so.

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bler144: In terms of reading me, I think the oddity is that I'm a bit all over the map: sometimes serious, sometimes frivolous.
This might well be what is pinging me about you. *shrug*
I'll worry more about rereading you if I survive the day. If I don't survive the day, then it falls into the category "Not My Problem".

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bler144: But 'twere I scum, it would be a very risky way to play ...
Let me assure you that this will not be seen as a valid defense. Ask me how I know. ;)

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yogsloth: I'm sitting at my desk giggling like a loon. Wouldn't it be amazing if we cracked this whole thing the first day?
Yes, it would be. Crushed dreams, oh yes.

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agentcarr16: Because I placed that vote in a hurry, without proper research, I am going to
unvote Bookwyrm
And Agent takes one of my predictions and flushes it. Ah well. I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong again.

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yogsloth: So... nobody saw what I saw? Did I hallucinate it?
I saw it, I just agree with Krypsyn. I don't think it means what you think it means.

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yogsloth: Well, me either. Too late today to really rip into it anyway. Will table it for tomorrow.
Sounds like you're going to have a full day tomorrow. I look forward to seeing how you handle it.

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bler144: Anyway, this comment has been bugging me all day, since I thought I'd remembered you saying the opposite earlier on. And sure enough in 475 you said "Also, the hammer vote tends to be scrutinized by townies precisely to check for a scum finishing a townie off."

I'm curious how you square those two, seemingly contradictory, points. It's not as if I'm standing free and clear outside suspicion now. Perhaps ironically, they would seem to only square if you flip as something other than town, no?
I bolded a rather important word in the quote from post 475. The one is a generalization, and doesn't always hold true. The other (you hammering me on Day 1 in this game) is a very specific situation where I look really bad to a number of players.
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Bookwyrm627: a)
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bler144: But 'twere I scum, it would be a very risky way to play ...
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Bookwyrm627: Let me assure you that this will not be seen as a valid defense. Ask me how I know. ;)


b) I bolded a rather important word in the quote from post 475. The one is a generalization, and doesn't always hold true. The other (you hammering me on Day 1 in this game) is a very specific situation where I look really bad to a number of players.
a) I'm not sure I'm thinking of it as a defense in quite the same way you are. And as I noted earlier, I expect I'll be chatting in the dead thread long before the game has resolved regardless. I just really have no idea which faction is going to take me out. Nor perhaps more importantly when.

b) fair enough - that wasn't quite the explanation I was expecting (there was a simpler alternative) but it works well enough as logic. Though I think that assessment itself overestimates how much of the group consensus is on you and I think underestimates the number of people who have me in a 'question' zone already. There are certainly 3-5 people pretty sure you're scum, or at least worth seeing worth how you flip, but that leaves quite a number more ambivalent or outright questioning.

And of course now the WIFOM is on the table and already poured in glasses. Though I think at this point it's more likely just a hypothetical than a theory we'll actually get to see tested...

but who knows. Tomorrow is another day. And on that note, it's well past sleep time.

Night y'all.
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bler144: I'm curious if you'd be willing to discuss which, if any, of those views have changed or evolved over the past 48+ hours. If they have changed, how and why?
Deadline pressure is still there, and higher I may say (Vitek said deadline will be given in hours, not days). Wyrm no longer seems to be trying to get himself lynched, though he seems resigned to be.
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agentcarr16: Spit, spit, spit, I just lost the post I was working on about players.
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Krypsyn: Let me guess: you took a break and refreshed the thread, then clicked to reply to me, thus erasing everything you wrote? Been there, done that. Extremely annoying.
That is EXACTLY what happened. Aaarghhh!!!
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agentcarr16: That is EXACTLY what happened. Aaarghhh!!!
Either use notepad (or equivalent) to write your posts, or use the Lazarus Form Recovery addon.
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Krypsyn: Let me guess: you took a break and refreshed the thread, then clicked to reply to me, thus erasing everything you wrote? Been there, done that. Extremely annoying.
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agentcarr16: That is EXACTLY what happened. Aaarghhh!!!
I do believe if you have a shortcut or hotkey to go back a page that works to reload what you had written before.
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agentcarr16: That is EXACTLY what happened. Aaarghhh!!!
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JMich: Either use notepad (or equivalent) to write your posts, or use the Lazarus Form Recovery addon.
I am definitely writing my posts outside of the forum now.
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Leonard03: I do believe if you have a shortcut or hotkey to go back a page that works to reload what you had written before.
I think that is browser dependent. Some browsers keep forms, others do not.
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yogsloth: EBWOP

To follow my own convention, "today" and "tomorrow" should be capitalized. Indicating Day 1 and Day 2.

While waiting for my 10 minutes to be up, I've been looking at stereograms Sage l inked to. Check this one out. It's one of the best I've ever seen! Certainly on a computer, anyway. A three-masted manowar with a foresail, a lighthouse on the rocks, and the moon hanging in the sky. Very detailed!
I see a head ache - I have never been gifted at these things and it always pissed me off. I have wondered how it would be seen from someone color blind.
I believe we have pretty much learned what we will today. A good amount of discussion and opinions for Day 1. Should be very helpful for Day 2. Leonard has checked in and seems to have at least skimmed the thread enough to have an idea. No point waiting...

Unvote Sage
Vote Bookwyrm

I actually feel pretty good that we might actually pull off a scum kill Day 1. I don't entirely buy that this was a carefully crafted plan of Bookwyrm's. More likely a slip followed by one of those long-winded explanations on how he's innocent.
I have no solid reason other than avoiding a No Lynch. (and I'm wary of Vitek's deadline)

Unvote: Sage103082


Vote: Bookwyrm627
If my count is correct, this brings Wyrm to L-1. Can we wait for a claim before lynching?
I'm still not sold on you being town Bookwyrm, and if you are your play was not a good one this time. You are a smart player and I find it hard to believe you would want to create talk by making yourself appear scummy and take the chance of getting lynched because of it, not a very town play at all.

Unvote JMich

Vote Bookwyrm627