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Posted July 07, 2016
Aside from titles developed internally by Monolith themselves, the engine seems to have been used almost exclusively for crappy budget FPS titles.

What was it about this engine, which as I mentioned in a previous thread is infamous for crashing a lot, that made it a go-to engine for crappy budget FPS back in the day? My guess was that it was seen as a sort of "cheap" alternative to the Unreal and Quake engines.
Post edited July 07, 2016 by ethicalsquid
Posted July 07, 2016
Uh, small license fees?
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Randalator: Uh, small license fees?
Sounds about right.

I guess you could argue that LithTech was to first-person shooter games what Unity is to hack indie developers.
Posted July 07, 2016
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Randalator: Uh, small license fees?
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ethicalsquid: Sounds about right.

I guess you could argue that LithTech was to first-person shooter games what Unity is to hack indie developers.
why you are new user. and why you pretend to be from USA? it must be like 3 AM for them now. either you from another cuntry or you must go to sleep! go or i'll send you i'm serious (*-*)
Posted July 07, 2016
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ethicalsquid: Sounds about right.

I guess you could argue that LithTech was to first-person shooter games what Unity is to hack indie developers.
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ciomalau: why you are new user. and why you pretend to be from USA? it must be like 3 AM for them now. either you from another cuntry or you must go to sleep! go or i'll send you i'm serious (*-*)
Wtf? Do you english?
Posted July 07, 2016
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ethicalsquid: Sounds about right.

I guess you could argue that LithTech was to first-person shooter games what Unity is to hack indie developers.
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ciomalau: why you are new user. and why you pretend to be from USA?
It's noon. :P

God made most men out of clay but he evidently made you out of shit. :P
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ciomalau: why you are new user. and why you pretend to be from USA?
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tinyE: It's noon. :P

God made most men out of clay but he evidently made you out of shit. :P
And many centuries of inbreeding.
Posted July 07, 2016
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tinyE: It's noon. :P

God made most men out of clay but he evidently made you out of shit. :P
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pimpmonkey2382.313: And many centuries of inbreeding.
Bullshit! Inbred people can read a fucking clock! :P He is way beyond that. XD
Posted July 07, 2016
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pimpmonkey2382.313: And many centuries of inbreeding.
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tinyE: Bullshit! Inbred people can read a fucking clock! :P He is way beyond that. XD
It certainly doesn't help.
Posted July 07, 2016
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ethicalsquid: Aside from titles developed internally by Monolith themselves, the engine seems to have been used almost exclusively for crappy budget FPS titles.

What was it about this engine, which as I mentioned in a previous thread is infamous for crashing a lot, that made it a go-to engine for crappy budget FPS back in the day? My guess was that it was seen as a sort of "cheap" alternative to the Unreal and Quake engines.
If memory serves it was also the engine for some great games.
Posted July 07, 2016
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ethicalsquid: Aside from titles developed internally by Monolith themselves, the engine seems to have been used almost exclusively for crappy budget FPS titles.

What was it about this engine, which as I mentioned in a previous thread is infamous for crashing a lot, that made it a go-to engine for crappy budget FPS back in the day? My guess was that it was seen as a sort of "cheap" alternative to the Unreal and Quake engines.
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nightcraw1er.488: If memory serves it was also the engine for some great games.
It did: Shogo, the NOLF series, AvP 2, FEAR and Condemned.

Blood 2 is OK but not terrific.
Posted July 07, 2016
Shogo had a cool concept sure. But the game itself is shit. Broken AI, bugs, glitches, it's not very fun or worth it to go through it nowadays. Blood 2 was just pure garbage all around thanks to GTi pressuring Monolith and rushing it out for a Halloween release. A list of scrapped features is floating out there somewhere I'm sure. Even Jace Hall is ashamed with that one.

Keep in mind, much like id tech, Litchtech has different iterations. Litchtech 1.0 as far as I know only powered Shogo and Blood 2. Microsoft was initially going to jump onboard and promote the engine but I think they backed out? I can't remember.

The second version of the engine, dubbed Lithtech Talon, powered a number of games. Some good, some bad, some mediocre. AvP, Kiss Psycho Circus, NOLF, that terrible Die Hard FPS, and that fucking AWFUL game Weapons of Mass Destruction. I think Might and Magic 9 also used this engine. This version of the engine is decent. Much more stable and much less ugly than 1.0.

The third version of the engine, dubbed Lithtech Jupiter, only improved on the previous iteration a little bit iirc. TRON 2.0 and NOLF 2 use this version of the engine and I think Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault.

The fourth and final version, Lithtech Jupiter EX, added all kinds of shit and is what powers FEAR, FEAR 2, Condemned, and even Shadow of Mordor I believe.

So, depending on what engine you are refering to, Litchtech has seen a mixture of good games and bad games using it.
Posted July 07, 2016
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CARRiON.FLOWERS: Shogo had a cool concept sure. But the game itself is shit. Broken AI, bugs, glitches, it's not very fun or worth it to go through it nowadays. Blood 2 was just pure garbage all around thanks to GTi pressuring Monolith and rushing it out for a Halloween release. A list of scrapped features is floating out there somewhere I'm sure. Even Jace Hall is ashamed with that one.

Keep in mind, much like id tech, Litchtech has different iterations. Litchtech 1.0 as far as I know only powered Shogo and Blood 2. Microsoft was initially going to jump onboard and promote the engine but I think they backed out? I can't remember.

The second version of the engine, dubbed Lithtech Talon, powered a number of games. Some good, some bad, some mediocre. AvP, Kiss Psycho Circus, NOLF, that terrible Die Hard FPS, and that fucking AWFUL game Weapons of Mass Destruction. I think Might and Magic 9 also used this engine. This version of the engine is decent. Much more stable and much less ugly than 1.0.

The third version of the engine, dubbed Lithtech Jupiter, only improved on the previous iteration a little bit iirc. TRON 2.0 and NOLF 2 use this version of the engine and I think Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault.

The fourth and final version, Lithtech Jupiter EX, added all kinds of shit and is what powers FEAR, FEAR 2, Condemned, and even Shadow of Mordor I believe.

So, depending on what engine you are refering to, Litchtech has seen a mixture of good games and bad games using it.
Jupiter was also used for that awful Gods and Generals game. Terrible? Yep. Unintentionally hilarious? Absolutely.

Some of the most broken AI I've ever seen in any game.
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