Posted November 18, 2014
BlackThorny: I didn't see it on the list (and didn't find results using search), but super panda adventures can run just fine without steam.
I didn't try to move the game folder, but I did try to run it when the steam client isn't on, and it worked just fine - even though it couldn't run at all through steam offline mode as it was downloaded via Family Sharing... which makes me a pirate? o.O
edit: Also Adventures of Shuggy which is on the list didn't work when I gave it the same treatment...
edit 2: Why are there games like 1000 Amps, Aztaka, Blocks That Matter, Bob Came in Pieces, Containment: The Zombie Puzzler, Cortex Command, Crayon Physics Deluxe, DEFCON, Faerie Solitaire listed with No information whatsoever? I'm actually interested in the latter one.
edit 3: Also I don't get why free games available DRM-Free elsewhere like Heroine's Quest: The Herald of Ragnarok are included in the list?
If you want them DRM-Free just don't get them on Steam in the first place!
If you do want them on Steam then losing the achievements is ruining the whole point of having them on Steam o.O
Kick-aha: You can't play games from Steam Family Sharing (now: SFS) in offline mode, that would defeat the whole purpose of SFS. It would also be technically difficult if it would be allowed to play SFS games offline. But it's only the Steam client that restricts the access, so playing DRM-free games without the client is still possible. I didn't try to move the game folder, but I did try to run it when the steam client isn't on, and it worked just fine - even though it couldn't run at all through steam offline mode as it was downloaded via Family Sharing... which makes me a pirate? o.O
edit: Also Adventures of Shuggy which is on the list didn't work when I gave it the same treatment...
edit 2: Why are there games like 1000 Amps, Aztaka, Blocks That Matter, Bob Came in Pieces, Containment: The Zombie Puzzler, Cortex Command, Crayon Physics Deluxe, DEFCON, Faerie Solitaire listed with No information whatsoever? I'm actually interested in the latter one.
edit 3: Also I don't get why free games available DRM-Free elsewhere like Heroine's Quest: The Herald of Ragnarok are included in the list?
If you want them DRM-Free just don't get them on Steam in the first place!
If you do want them on Steam then losing the achievements is ruining the whole point of having them on Steam o.O
As for Adventures of Shuggy, I thought it would run on a different PC. Maybe you had to install the latest DirectX from the game folder, I'm not really sure at the moment. If you installed Adventures of Shuggy through SFS, then it could be that it won't work for you. Some games are DRM-free but need the launcher when installed through SFS, at least that was the case for VVVVVV on Windows for me.
The games without information on the list were mentioned somewhere to be DRM-free, but nobody specified on which OS they are DRM-free as there are differences. I would simply assume that they will work under Windows as most people who don't specify their OS won't use Mac or Linux, but without sources I won't add them as DRM-free under Windows.
This list simply lists games on Steam without DRM. Why does it matter if it is available DRM-free outside of Steam or not? I think that Steam is convenient with its updates and Sales but I don't like the DRM-aspect, so I launch Steam once in a while to conveniently update and download games and then play the DRM-free ones without the client. That will probably change when GOG finally launches the Galaxy client, but let's see if it will be any good or as crappy as the Desura client.
I know how and (probably) why SFS works that way, I just wanted to make clear that panda most definetly works with no regards for steam, as otherwise it wouldn't have worked. So I think it would be safe to add it to the list.
Regarding Shuggy, I'll try on my system (where I own the game) and move the folder to another system to see if there's a difference.
Ok, that's good to know. So Games on the list with no exact info, have probably working windows DRM-Free Executables.
Well I still think the Freeware on steam (that doesn't have some nasty DRM even though it's free like sims 2 on origin), should be considered DRM-Free even if it requires steam to launch, as Its DRM is only related to advantages the steam platform has (be it auto updates, achievements, whatever) and thus isn't really DRM at all - if you want those! And if you don't, again, you wouldn't have got it on steam to begin with. And yes, It could be irrelevant once Galaxy is out but mainly because Galaxy will basically be DRM for them for exactly the same reasons...
That last rant by Atlantico, even though it was obviously uncalled for, gave me an idea - How about track the installers too? I did save a couple of steam installers - I have for example a Trine 2 installer...
How? Well I observed the download, found the folder steam was using for the download and stopped it when it was about 10 seconds till end. Then I copied an backed up the installer files. I'm pretty sure I have a full pack, other then a single file at most, and that one is probably very little too.
I didn't try to use that installer backup, as I assume steam has some kind of function caller whatnot to initiate install I have no clue about, also I could be missing a crucial file, but it does make me wonder... If we could use this method to compare the installers too? Maybe even find some DRM-Free installers that just authenticate with steam as their final step (and if blocked through firewall never try again to call home)?