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Trilarion: Somehow ironic that the users of "free, transparent, open" Linux have to rely on the "DRMed, put PC games in a cage" STEAM service to get their games.
Indeed, very ironic and sad even...

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Trilarion: And the reason is that the Linux tribe is just too small to make the "marriage made in heaven" which the support of Linux by GOG could be seen as.
*rofl* I like your "marriage in heaven" point of view... and I agree!

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shmerl: In contrast with Steam though, we should expect GOG to produce installers for each update still, in order to maintain DRM free status. Then they'll really be competitive. Right now Steam has an upper hand by offering automated updates (their main minus is DRM on top of that).
I hope not, they should allow direct placing of update and patches in good old self-contained form ("exe") for developers.

Should be placed in the game's download directory as additional patch (no overwriting allowed) with version +1. Maybe such updates should be than signed as "not-GOG approved", the users are then free to use or not use them. GOG is a man in the middle which leads to excessive delays... I think we need a option for fast updates without that delays to compete with Steam. (infact Almost Human provided in parallel own GOG patches as the delays were to long with GOG http://grimrock.net/patch/)
Post edited August 15, 2013 by shaddim
Knowledge of QT abd QML included among pluses of desktop software engineer job position offered by GOG could indicate an interest at least in Linux client.
Another game with a native Linux client emerges on GOG. At least there will be plenty of games for Linux to buy off GOG once it starts supporting Linux.
Is GOG.com About To Support Linux?
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Trilarion: Somehow ironic that the users of "free, transparent, open" Linux have to rely on the "DRMed, put PC games in a cage" STEAM service to get their games. And the reason is that the Linux tribe is just too small to make the "marriage made in heaven" which the support of Linux by GOG could be seen as.
Actually the experience is entirely DRM-free. Surprisingly even stuff like activations and launchers are ditched in the ports.
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DebugMode: Actually the experience is entirely DRM-free. Surprisingly even stuff like activations and launchers are ditched in the ports.
Do you mean Steam? It's not DRM free by any means.
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Future_Suture: Another game with a native Linux client emerges on GOG. At least there will be plenty of games for Linux to buy off GOG once it starts supporting Linux.
Thank you for that post. Had I not seen it I might have bought it on GOG. Now I won't. I take it is available for Linux on Steam?
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Future_Suture: Another game with a native Linux client emerges on GOG. At least there will be plenty of games for Linux to buy off GOG once it starts supporting Linux.
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Kristian: Thank you for that post. Had I not seen it I might have bought it on GOG. Now I won't. I take it is available for Linux on Steam?
I am glad I could be of aid. Yes, this title is available through Steam on Linux. The developers even use Linux themselves. Why not wait for clarification from GOG regarding the job openings they posted about before buying it on Steam, however?
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DebugMode: Actually the experience is entirely DRM-free. Surprisingly even stuff like activations and launchers are ditched in the ports.
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shmerl: Do you mean Steam? It's not DRM free by any means.
Steam is a client. Steamworks is DRM.
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DebugMode: Steam is a client. Steamworks is DRM.
Steam has several levels of DRM (from least to most severe):

1. No installers provided for games (unless you can manually back up the game directory to transfer to another computer, which is not always possible.
2. Requirement to run the client to play some games (steamworks).
3. In game DRMs (on-line requirements and etc).

All of those are DRM, and GOG has none of these. 2 and 3 aren't always present in Steam, but I think 1 is always there.

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shaddim: I hope not, they should allow direct placing of update and patches in good old self-contained form ("exe") for developers.
Should be placed in the game's download directory as additional patch (no overwriting allowed) with version +1.
Whatever that would be - a single download, or a series of patches and etc. As far as it will be provided as a file that can be backed up DRM free, it's good enough. So GOG can combine both - convenience of incremental updates through their service, and an option of DRM free backups for installation.

I'd just add, that if GOG is to create some client for their service, it better be open source, in order to be fully trusted.
Post edited August 15, 2013 by shmerl
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Kristian: Thank you for that post. Had I not seen it I might have bought it on GOG. Now I won't. I take it is available for Linux on Steam?
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Future_Suture: I am glad I could be of aid. Yes, this title is available through Steam on Linux. The developers even use Linux themselves. Why not wait for clarification from GOG regarding the job openings they posted about before buying it on Steam, however?
Because I believe GOG launching Linux support is less likely than Microsoft announcing the next versions of Office and Visual Studio as Linux exclusives?
Post edited August 15, 2013 by Kristian
GOG expressed interest in Linux support. So why should it be unlikely? Did you see them saying they are opposed to such idea?
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shmerl: GOG expressed interest in Linux support. So why should it be unlikely? Did you see them saying they are opposed to such idea?
Their ridiculous excuses regarding the Raspberry Pi and the like speaks for it self.
They were jokes, not excuses. I didn't even pay attention to those, since they weren't even half serious. And in other sources they were positive about the Linux support.
Post edited August 15, 2013 by shmerl
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shmerl: GOG expressed interest in Linux support. So why should it be unlikely? Did you see them saying they are opposed to such idea?
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Kristian: Their ridiculous excuses regarding the Raspberry Pi and the like speaks for it self.
Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the result of the non-techie PR guy stringing together an excuse made up of words he'd heard once or twice because he's been ordered to refute anything and everything about a new feature until the techs tell the bosses that it's good to go (but since they are working on feature x, they don't have an excuse as to why they're not, so PR has to make something up when users demand a reason).
Post edited August 15, 2013 by Maighstir