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It's forced because it's totally irrelevant to the game's plot (granted, I might have been more annoyed if it actually had been a major plot point). I got a distinct impression that the developers included it because they wanted to make a point in US culture wars ("Look how superprogressive we are, not like those rednecks in Texas, we've even got a transsexual character"), and I don't care for that at all in games I play. But it's admittedly a very minor element of the game, and there are other elements of the game that are a lot more disturbing (e.g. the restaurant with human meat, though in a way I guess that was commentary on the end point of unregulated capitalism).
But anyway, it's a good game and I don't want to start a discussion about transsexuality...just thought I should mention it since it's clearly relevant for the topic here.

Thanks, I could not have made the double standard clearer than that. It's forced if it's just a detail, it's more forced if the story dwells on it... can't wait for someone to explain to me what the "right way" to have transsexual characters in games is starting from this outlook.

Sci-fi has the ability if not the obligation to imagine what our future looks like, and especially what happens when the things that are outrageous today become virtually normal. That in itself is not a political statement.


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Dreamfall Chapters does the very same thing. Main character reveals he's gay only in episode 3 of 5 because he's not interested in a relationship anyway. He literally only reveals it when people around him assume he's into women just a little too ennervingly. Kian's homosexuality becomes somewhat relevant to the plot (because homosexuality is vilified in the country he's liberating from the oppressors from his deeply fascist home country, where homosexuality is normal (!)), but it still remains a mere detail. He never initiates or consummates a relationship in the game.

Which brings us to the topic of queer baiting. :) :) :)
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Man, you're annoying, I can't recall ever having encountered someone as fanatically self-righteous as yourself on the net and I've encountered a lot of strange people. I merely wanted to add a detail about that game for the OP's list and how it affected my view of the game. I'm not interested in having a long discussion and certainly not with you. Bye, have a nice day!

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And yet you couldn't abstain from immediately editorializing and from uncalled for personal attacks. Thanks for the detail though!

Thanks buddy!

Spoiler warning would have been appreciated there

Added. I think the GOG forum must be the only gaming forum in existence that doesn't have actual spoiler tags. *sigh*

Another example: Wizardry 8, with the official patch (the GOG version already includes this patch). (Spoilers ahead)

In Wizardry 8, there is one part where, in order to continue with the game, you need to have a male character consort with a female demon. This character has to be a regular party member, not an RPG. Of course, this game lets you create your own party, and it is possible for the player to create an all-female party. This, of course, creates a problem.

In the patch, the developers added a solution; if your entire party (including RPCs) is female, the game will allow you to have a female character consort with the demon, creating a lesbian relationship (and the demon still somehow manages to become pregnant as a result). (There is still an issue: If you have a male RPC, you will have to dismiss him temporarily to get past this part; you can re-recruit him later without any issues.)

I am still wondering why this didn't get caught in testing; I guess nobody thought to test with an all-female party. One can't blame an all-male team for this issue, because the team was certainly not all-male (note Linda Currie as producer and Brenda Romero as game designer), so I am wondering how this happened.

Back to on-topic.

GOG just released Ignition. It has a fruity yellow car called "Banana". I bet it is a big banana.

First you go off topic, second, you provide fake news.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38579126

Third, the cia document has 3, not 1, holes/inconsistencies and they do not present DETAILS, FACTS, PROOF in one word, whatsoever.

You learn of something new, but you must keep being updated. There is always turn of events, updates, differences, twisting of truth, hiding of facts or anything else possible (and impossible), asspulls included.

Oh, but i forgot, only you can be right; all saying differently are all wrong (or spies/hackers/agents)!

That's a school bus timppu. XD

There are probably quite a few obscure games out there with that kind of stuff in them. I played a weird RPG-ish game called Alcarys Complex that was in a Groupees bundle way back, and two of the main characters are gay in that one. Felt kind of clumsy the way it was handled, but I imagine trying to present heterosexuality in a largely gay-exclusive world would probably be a bit clumsy, too.

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Can I just say that was a terrible example of including it in a game, though? You're given the opportunity to have him kiss a female NPC before you find out that he's gay, and that's pretty messed up. That and his characterization in the original Dreamfall almost make it seem like a last-minute decision.

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