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Posted July 04, 2019
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Fairfox: if teh publie is 'booted' theeeen i feel like all teh games current lee actual lee bein' updated (like graveyard keeper) will stahp bein' supported, espesh. as its still bein' worked on by teh devlies

i am not +1'in that notion
Yeah, I get your point but something must be done to solve this mess. Hopefully, tinybuild will reconsider their position and update the games regularly.
Posted July 04, 2019
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Fairfox: if teh publie is 'booted' theeeen i feel like all teh games current lee actual lee bein' updated (like graveyard keeper) will stahp bein' supported, espesh. as its still bein' worked on by teh devlies

i am not +1'in that notion
Don't forget that IF it's actually true that the publisher does not want to support games on GOG - which is basically what they said - even this game won't get updated anymore in the future anyhow. If however this was not true, they will update the other games as well and there's no reason to get them removed at all.
Posted July 04, 2019
The best thing to do is to dump these people because they clearly do not believe in DRM free games. I don't understand why they even bothered selling their games on here. GOG needs to do a better job of making sure the people they do business with are behind DRM free games 100% and will be committed to updates before selling their games. It bugs me that they do business with people like this but won't sell games like Star Traders Frontiers.
Posted July 05, 2019
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scrubking: The best thing to do is to dump these people because they clearly do not believe in DRM free games. I don't understand why they even bothered selling their games on here. GOG needs to do a better job of making sure the people they do business with are behind DRM free games 100% and will be committed to updates before selling their games. It bugs me that they do business with people like this but won't sell games like Star Traders Frontiers.
Yeah, I don't get it either. Reject a bunch of games the community expressed interest in and keep the ones from the publisher that says GOG enables piracy seems a bit bizarre, to say the least.
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Fairfox: if teh publie is 'booted' theeeen i feel like all teh games current lee actual lee bein' updated (like graveyard keeper) will stahp bein' supported, espesh. as its still bein' worked on by teh devlies

i am not +1'in that notion
Let me guess... you support TinyBuild's stance and you think more publishers should stop updating their games on GOG because hurr durr stkeviskie burr burr tatak tatak?
Post edited July 05, 2019 by samuraigaiden
Posted July 05, 2019
Do people who call for removal of TinyBuild games have any TinyBuild game in their gog library?

I don't think people who bought games from these published actually want the removal of their games because in that case they wouldn't see any patches for their games.
Post edited July 05, 2019 by BeatriceElysia
Posted July 05, 2019
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samuraigaiden: Let me guess... you support TinyBuild's stance and you think more publishers should stop updating their games on GOG because hurr durr stkeviskie burr burr tatak tatak?
...no? i already outlined my positon. its also like been re-outlined above

i dont think gogie are big enuf in their own position as a gamin' uuuh platform then (ie outside o' that cd... projekt... red thang) to wholesale reject publies (big or no) with multi-games, that are on hereee to boot. s'one thang when its a single game that needs work that is refused.

an' yah, bigger or smaller picture it like harms gogie users who have a plethora (mmm, pleths) of these gamies that ARE bein' uuuh maintained then. you think publies an' devlies will even bother with those if teh gamies arent on here any moar? lolz NOPE

s'like that impression i heard - cuttin' off teh nose to spite teh face

dont miscategorize me as an edgelord or literal jfidjidfjsjfsf-speaker (obvs outside of teh occasional dalliance :P)
Posted July 05, 2019
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BeatriceElysia: Do people who call for removal of TinyBuild games have any TinyBuild game in their gog library?

I don't think people who bought games from these published actually want the removal of their games because in that case they wouldn't see any patches for their games.
Nice joke!

And yes, I do have a game (from Kickstarter) with a tinyBuild as a publisher. Guess what? It doesn't get updates (in time).
Posted July 05, 2019
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BeatriceElysia: Do people who call for removal of TinyBuild games have any TinyBuild game in their gog library?

I don't think people who bought games from these published actually want the removal of their games because in that case they wouldn't see any patches for their games.
I do but I have to say while some of TinyBuilds practices are pretty terrible all things considered they do update their games. Recently one of my fav games on gog updated (a few years late I suppose) which is a game called Punch Club. The patch itself added quite a bit of hefty convinient features. Anyway, regardless of my feelings of the publisher I still love it because its one of the better time wasters that I've played. People should seperate the developers from the publishers due to the nature of this thread and the discussion within it.

I do think that TinyBuild should just appologize and do better next time since its their responsibility to care (and nobody wants to become EA no matter how big or small they are :P). If TinyBuild ceases to exist then the games should find a new home.
Post edited July 05, 2019 by Dray2k
Posted July 05, 2019
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BeatriceElysia: Do people who call for removal of TinyBuild games have any TinyBuild game in their gog library?

I don't think people who bought games from these published actually want the removal of their games because in that case they wouldn't see any patches for their games.
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Dray2k: I do but I have to say while some of TinyBuilds practices are pretty terrible all things considered they do update their games. Recently one of my fav games on gog updated (a few years late I suppose) which is a game called Punch Club. The patch itself added quite a bit of hefty convinient features. Anyway, regardless of my feelings of the publisher I still love it because its one of the better time wasters that I've played. People should seperate the developers from the publishers due to the nature of this thread and the discussion within it.
I've only played Pathologic 2 so I can only vouch for that one, but some people in the reviews do seem to like some of their games as they exist in a DRM-free state on GOG.

Is it anti-consumer to leave them up? Is it corporate censorship to take them down? I don't really know. Who benefits by either? Will Pathologic 2 or Punch Club get updates if they're taken down?

The games are indeed poorly supported. However, if this can be rectified through a mutual agreement, it's probably not worth throwing the baby out with the bathwater, IMO.
Post edited July 05, 2019 by slamdunk
Posted July 05, 2019
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emter_pl: I’d like to let you know that we’re currently in talks with tinyBuild and trying to find the best possible solution to this situation.
This is good to hear. Thanks for letting us know something.

BTW was that one quoted employee speaking officially for Tinybuild or not? Do you guys/gals know that much?

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mqstout: Nope. Better that they remain and labeled outdated rather than removed. They should NOT vanish. Better to have an out of date product than have it not be available at all. (And I mean at all -- I'm not a self-harming fucker who uses any DRM platforms.)

Especially since, when the data was looked, it's only a couple of products that are behind at all and the vast majority are not.
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SirPrimalform: I disagree. If the developer/publisher are supporting the game elsewhere but not here then it shouldn't be on sale here. It's dishonest to sell a game that is out of date and will never be updated. And honestly, if the game was labelled outdated like you suggest, do you really think it would sell enough to even justify its presence?

EDIT: By the way, there is a precedent for this. There have been several games removed because the developer or publisher decided to stop supporting the game here.
As others said i'd rather have games DRM free than not have them at all.....better to have them than to let them fall into the digital ether as other titles have done.

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mqstout: Nope. Better that they remain and labeled outdated rather than removed. They should NOT vanish. Better to have an out of date product than have it not be available at all. (And I mean at all -- I'm not a self-harming fucker who uses any DRM platforms.)

Especially since, when the data was looked, it's only a couple of products that are behind at all and the vast majority are not.
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Djaron: But then for such situations we need a clear and visible indicator on the sotre page for future customers
like "this game is discontinued/unsupported by publisher and is sold as is without any update or bugfixing provided"

sure, it would not be very incentive and motivating for the wannabe buyer... but at least customer would have the choice and be informed properly...
Agreed, as long as the games remained for sale.
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MarkoH01: Sorry, but I could not resist. It's still a pity that it even IS a problem to get completely updated versions because of the the platform you buy it on. Not updating a game on any platform devs/publishers are offering it on should be punisheable by law - it should not even be an option imo. It's sad that several people have left GOG - or stopped buying newer games on GOG completely - because of this. Like I said, such things do hurt GOG massively.
Maybe not punishable by law aka jail time, but perhaps a fin of some sort?
Post edited July 05, 2019 by GameRager
Posted July 05, 2019
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MarkoH01: Sorry, but I could not resist. It's still a pity that it even IS a problem to get completely updated versions because of the the platform you buy it on. Not updating a game on any platform devs/publishers are offering it on should be punisheable by law - it should not even be an option imo. It's sad that several people have left GOG - or stopped buying newer games on GOG completely - because of this. Like I said, such things do hurt GOG massively.
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GameRager: Maybe not punishable by law aka jail time, but perhaps a fin of some sort?
That's what I meant.
Posted July 05, 2019
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Fairfox: if teh publie is 'booted' theeeen i feel like all teh games current lee actual lee bein' updated (like graveyard keeper) will stahp bein' supported, espesh. as its still bein' worked on by teh devlies

i am not +1'in that notion
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MarkoH01: Don't forget that IF it's actually true that the publisher does not want to support games on GOG - which is basically what they said - even this game won't get updated anymore in the future anyhow. If however this was not true, they will update the other games as well and there's no reason to get them removed at all.
It's pretty plain to see nearly all their games are either out of date or getting updates months after Steam
Posted July 05, 2019
^^^ months is acceptable. not ideal but fine
then again i get it, like you pay your monies you should get same service

but it dont happen that wai
they cater to largest platform first
see: apple vs android

android is oft. waitin'

anythin' moar than like half a year is frown-worthy
an' NEVER updatin' is fuck-revokin'

still dont think whole entire publies+devlies should go, tho, hoe
Posted July 05, 2019
The issue has hit the news reporting youtube-space too, this was just recommended to me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClZBy0UskPw
Posted July 05, 2019
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Fairfox: ^^^ months is acceptable. not ideal but fine
No, it isn't acceptable at all.
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