Dalthnock: Funny how people are cool with sexual predators having easy access to women & little girls, but can't stand the thought a thread they don't like being open.
It's nice to see what's really important to some people.
Predators do have easy access to women and little girls even without any laws about bathroom use.
If you actually want to do something about it, the easiest solution (if one pretends the First Amendment doesn't exist) would be to close all churches, because *that* is where a much bigger proportion of such sexual offenses occur.
Hunter65536: Not sure if this has already been said but let's say that trans people are allowed to go to toilets of their choice. In that case a female to male trans person would go to the men's toilet and will have to use the stall. Now let's consider a male to female trans person who would have to go into a stall in women's toilet. Since they're using a stall anyway, can't they use the same stall in the bathrooms of their birth gender? The only time they are out of stalls is to wash their hands (which shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes) so what's the problem here?
One big problem:
If a person who obviously looks like a women goes into the men's room, people would notice, and that would likely result in her being outed.
There's also the issue of feeling like you don't belong in that bathroom. If Amy is a (trans) woman, why *shouldn't* she be allowed to use the women's room?
Of course, since both men and women use stalls, why not just get rid of the gender signs on bathrooms like Cooper Union did?
RWarehall: You claim its a matter of both, but is it really? Where is the proof? Do you have twin separation studies to support it? Without proof, you have nothing. It's one thing to attribute biology to physical condition, but show me any evidence that biology has anything to do with thoughts or self-identity?
What I worry about is this idea that if one doesn't fit in, maybe its because they are transgender. A boy who doesn't like sports? Transgender. Or he likes to play with dollhouses with his sister. Transgender. Right? It can't just be a boy who doesn't fit it, but still be a boy? A girl who likes sports, transgender. A girl who doesn't like to wear jewelry, transgender. A lot can be said about the power of suggestion, especially in regards to children at a young age. I think any parent has seen how their friends can sometimes put crazy ideas in their head. Such as stealing Baseball cards from the party store doesn't hurt anyone because they are made of money. But the argument here seems to be if the issue is gender, parents shouldn't be allowed to attempt to correct it; that parents have no right's in the upbringing of their children...
Here's the dividing line; go by how the person identifies, what pronouns the person prefers, etc. A person who loves dollhouses but prefers male pronouns is a boy (regardess of birth genital configurations), while a person who likes sports and dislikes dresses but prefers female pronouns is a girl.
Also, the reason that parents shouldn't be allowed to "correct" it is that doing so would be immensely harmful to the child. See the case of David Reimer.
