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Posted May 22, 2016
I'm too late to join the party, ohhhh.... :`(
Posted May 22, 2016
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CharlesGrey: So, I read through most of this thread, and it caused an ever growing urge to contribute something.

*facepalm*
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wpegg: It made me watch the whole thing, I suggest you do to. It's absolutely brilliiant, I believe it to be the best comedy of the last millenium.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcU7FaEEzNU
Wow. I'm almost in awe at the people who had the guts to produce and air that. Those people have elevated Poe's Law to an artform.

Oh yes, and I found this amusing little piece of history surrounding that episode from Wikipedia.

The Daily Star decried Morris and the show, and the Daily Mail ran a headline describing Brass Eye as "Unspeakably Sick" (quoting Beverly Hughes). The Observer noted that the Star's article was positioned adjacent to a separate article about the 15-year-old singer Charlotte Church's appearance under the headline "She's a big girl now" and featuring punning phrases like "how quickly she's grown up" and "looking chest swell", and that the Mail's was preceded by "close-ups" of the "bikini princesses" Beatrice and Eugenie, who were 13 and 11 at the time.
Posted May 22, 2016
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tinyE: I can leave again if you want. :D
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Tauto: really,really,go ahead punk make my day.
Dirty Tauto :P
Posted May 22, 2016
Here we go again, more people who I bet aren't trans making this about trans people.

And repeating the same crap that has been refuted before in this same thread.

I wonder why none of you are even open to the possibility of sorting the trans issue another way that doesn't put children in danger.

It's either this or nothing, & you're willing to throw the largest, most defenceless percentage of th population t the hyenas jus so you can post on twitter or facebook how "tolerant" you are.

Makes me proud to be human.
Posted May 22, 2016
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Dalthnock: Here we go again, more people who I bet aren't trans making this about trans people.
I've never seen the Earth from orbit either, does that make me unqualified to say it's round?
Posted May 22, 2016
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Dalthnock: Here we go again, more people who I bet aren't trans making this about trans people.

And repeating the same crap that has been refuted before in this same thread.

I wonder why none of you are even open to the possibility of sorting the trans issue another way that doesn't put children in danger.

It's either this or nothing, & you're willing to throw the largest, most defenceless percentage of th population t the hyenas jus so you can post on twitter or facebook how "tolerant" you are.

Makes me proud to be human.
You are doing this. Stop. This (non) issue does not, in any way, shape or form put children in danger.
Posted May 22, 2016
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Dalthnock: I just don't want it to be legal for a middle-aged man to shower next to an little girl! Hell, they shouldn't even do it in front of little boys, but at least boys know that what they're seeing is just a bigger version of what they have.
How about we put all children in special camps and don't let them out till they are 21 years old? Do you think we should put their mothers in those camps as well? Might be better...
Posted May 22, 2016
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Dalthnock: Here we go again, more people who I bet aren't trans making this about trans people.
You're forbidding people from using bathrooms based on their gender identity. How is that not against trans people? It's like an Intelligent Design advocate insisting that they're not a Creationist.

And no, for the record, I'm not trans. (But I have a friend who is.) How does that in any way invalidate what we've been saying? What about you? Have you taken the time to talk to a trans person (or even someone in the greater LGTBQ community) about why it's so important for them?

I can see where your fear is grounded and where it comes from -- namely, the safety and security of your 14-year old daughter. I can even empathize to a degree. But what if it was one of your children who was transgender, and vexed by this issue? Could you put yourself in the shoes of another parent with a son or daughter who was transgender? Could you put yourself in their son or daughter's shoes?

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Dalthnock: And repeating the same crap that has been refuted before in this same thread.
Indulging in trans panic hysteria is not "refuting" anything.
Posted May 22, 2016
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Dalthnock: Here we go again, more people who I bet aren't trans making this about trans people.
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tinyE: I've never seen the Earth from orbit either, does that make me unqualified to say it's round?
Oh, how snarky. What does that have to do with what I said?

A more fitting comparison would be when white Americans threw a hissy fit about the Redskins name & how offensive it was to Native Americans, when all the while over 90% of the Native Americans never gave a toss about it.

Why is it always white people speaking on behalf of other cultures & minorities?

But sure go ahead & be snarky about something that can be easily verified by looking a the ocean's horizon line.

I bow in awe of your cleverness.
Posted May 22, 2016
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Dalthnock: over 90% of the Native Americans never gave a toss about it.
Feel free to back up that statement whenever you can.

I'll be here waiting.
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Posted May 22, 2016
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Dalthnock: A more fitting comparison would be when white Americans threw a hissy fit about the Redskins name & how offensive it was to Native Americans, when all the while over 90% of the Native Americans never gave a toss about it.
http://www.npr.org/2016/05/21/479001688/native-american-leader-responds-to-washington-post-redskins-poll

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/for-native-american-activists-a-new-post-poll-on-redskins-name-wont-end-their-fight/2016/05/20/fb10824e-1e09-11e6-8c7b-6931e66333e7_story.html

“The fact that we’re poll-testing racial slurs against Native Americans shows how much we’ve ignored their basic humanity to begin with,” Henderson said. “A slur is a slur is a slur. . . . Celebrating and commodifying stereotypes should have no place in 21st century America. Even if the poll’s results about this slur are accurate, that wouldn’t give license to Dan Snyder to cash in by appropriating it.”
Posted May 22, 2016
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Dalthnock: A more fitting comparison would be when white Americans threw a hissy fit about the Redskins name & how offensive it was to Native Americans, when all the while over 90% of the Native Americans never gave a toss about it.
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rampancy: http://www.npr.org/2016/05/21/479001688/native-american-leader-responds-to-washington-post-redskins-poll

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/for-native-american-activists-a-new-post-poll-on-redskins-name-wont-end-their-fight/2016/05/20/fb10824e-1e09-11e6-8c7b-6931e66333e7_story.html

“The fact that we’re poll-testing racial slurs against Native Americans shows how much we’ve ignored their basic humanity to begin with,” Henderson said. “A slur is a slur is a slur. . . . Celebrating and commodifying stereotypes should have no place in 21st century America. Even if the poll’s results about this slur are accurate, that wouldn’t give license to Dan Snyder to cash in by appropriating it.”
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rampancy:
Yeah, but all of that came from the 10%. :D
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Posted May 22, 2016
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Dalthnock: Here we go again, more people who I bet aren't trans making this about trans people.
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rampancy: You're forbidding people from using bathrooms based on their gender identity. How is that not against trans people? It's like an Intelligent Design advocate insisting that they're not a Creationist.

And no, for the record, I'm not trans. (But I have a friend who is.) How does that in any way invalidate what we've been saying? What about you? Have you taken the time to talk to a trans person (or even someone in the greater LGTBQ community) about why it's so important for them?

I can see where your fear is grounded and where it comes from -- namely, the safety and security of your 14-year old daughter. I can even empathize to a degree. But what if it was one of your children who was transgender, and vexed by this issue? Could you put yourself in the shoes of another parent with a son or daughter who was transgender? Could you put yourself in their son or daughter's shoes?

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Dalthnock: And repeating the same crap that has been refuted before in this same thread.
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rampancy: Indulging in trans panic hysteria is not "refuting" anything.
So, you're going for the "I have a x friend" routine? Classy.

It's very likely that I've talked with more trans people & other minorities than you have, and not just for the trophy claim. I mean real talks abou several issues, including & especially topics other than those pertaining to them.

They're real people with real opinions, you know? They don't need you to speak for them.

Also, please stop sexualizing children. This is exactly what I fear & you're doing it.
Posted May 22, 2016
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Dalthnock: I just don't want it to be legal for a middle-aged man to shower next to an little girl! Hell, they shouldn't even do it in front of little boys, but at least boys know that what they're seeing is just a bigger version of what they have.
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stryx: How about we put all children in special camps and don't let them out till they are 21 years old? Do you think we should put their mothers in those camps as well? Might be better...
Perhaps we would all feel safer with a crack volunteer squad of able-bodied men willing to police women's bathrooms and charge into them at the slightest suspicion that someone entering may not be a woman.
Posted May 22, 2016
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Dalthnock: Why is it always white people speaking on behalf of other cultures & minorities?
Are you a child? If not, why are you speaking on behalf of children?

Or maybe, just maybe, one doesn't have to be someone else to grasp the notion that abusing that someone else is bad?
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