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zeogold: After much consideration, I think I may be leaning towards getting a desktop instead. It's just more bang for the buck. I should probably just make a new thread, but...eh.
Any desktop suggestions?
You have seem my gripes, and all are first-hand.

In case you can afford multiple computers, I'd recommend an iMac and a Windows laptop - jast because a fine iMac leaves you the option of implementing any Windows version that you have legally purchached, and one of the best screens.

But you must be prepared to be diligent with updating drivers, and never try to tri-boot XP-Win7-Mac OS.

An a Windows laptop would allow you to be mobile when gaming - say, a nine hour train ride back home, Baldur's Gate will make it quite enjoyable... ;-)
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TStael: You have seem my gripes, and all are first-hand.
Not really. I can barely understand a word you say.
Ever considered using Google Translate?
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TStael: You have seem my gripes, and all are first-hand.
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zeogold: Not really. I can barely understand a word you say.
Ever considered using Google Translate?
I have, in fact, Often. ;-) What was it that you did not understand?

A CD slot - do you understand what that is?
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TStael: I have, in fact, Often. ;-) What was it that you did not understand?
.....
*sigh*
I'm not going to take this up with you again. It's not even worth it.
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zeogold: I'm not going to take this up with you again. It's not even worth it.
Umm? Wut?

My main objection to Mac HW & OS was eliminatic the CD slot that to me, as a gamer, was important.

Bit of a paid objector, there, then eh? :-)
I think what he's trying to say is with Mac you have a mode called Boot Camp that let you install Windows and boot into windows, so you can have the best of both world. Still you can get a better performing Windows PC for a price of a Mac.
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eksasol: I think what he's trying to say is with Mac you have a mode called Boot Camp that let you install Windows and boot into windows, so you can have the best of both world. Still you can get a better performing Windows PC for a price of a Mac.
Indeed, reasobaly so. I always somowhat idolaized bootcamping my iMac- and have it that way still as secundry computer - only I never was good in keeping the Windows to Mac OS drivers up for it.

If anyone wants the best of both worlds, I suspect they should be vigorous about upgrading drivers between those two worlds.
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zeogold: After much consideration, I think I may be leaning towards getting a desktop instead. It's just more bang for the buck. I should probably just make a new thread, but...eh.
Any desktop suggestions?
Do you plan to overclock or not?
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zeogold: After much consideration, I think I may be leaning towards getting a desktop instead. It's just more bang for the buck. I should probably just make a new thread, but...eh.
Any desktop suggestions?
A desktop is certainly more bang for the buck... until you decide you want to play elsewhere. ; )

Just poking - everyone's reasons vary. Get what suits your needs, not mine.



Lots of folks are going to suggest building your own, which can (but not always) save you a healthy chunk of money. I'm on the fence about that - if you've done it before then that's a huge help when you do it again. And places like Newegg have packages where they supply most or all of the hardware and you just need to throw it all together and buy and install the OS yourself. Outside of those packages, you'll have to do a fair bit of homework (the forum is a good start) to reduce the chance of compatibility problems and to help put your money in the best places.

Good luck - building your own is quite satisfying, but there's also something to be said for paying a little more to let the pro shops do it.
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HereForTheBeer: A desktop is certainly more bang for the buck... until you decide you want to play elsewhere. ; )
From my experience, it also take up more space, make more noises (usually, and those quiet fans/cases/water cooling ain't cheap] and use up more electricity. Just my opinion.
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mm324: Did you have problems with a ASUS?
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TStael: I did, but it was Windows 8.1 when I bought it, but supposedly top of the line - what could handle DA:I six months after release - it crashed twice critically.

Really badly - I had to restore factory settings.

With Windows 10 it has been better - but I also think a "plainer" or more down to earth set up would not have suffered it. Just because it is gaming attoned does not excuse fatal crashes!

What I want to say: do not be too cruel to ASUS if you intrinsicly like it - just know what sort of rig you want.

I was an unconditional Mac-fancier, but the moment their intent to eliminate incorporated CD slot was annouced, I was off Mac. That was too arrogant for desing to stand!

I will not renew ASUS, perso. Windows 8.1 must have been a formal corporate agreement, but it was exceedingly poorly executed to my experience. Had I hopped on upon Windows 10 - I might think different. But 8.1 it was.
Thanks for the info. I'm using a ASUS TravelMate P-245M, that I got used, right now and not had any problems. I'm planning on buying a gaming laptop within the next 6 months to a year and wanted to know the experiences that others have had.
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PainOfSalvation: Do you plan to overclock or not?
.....huh?
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HereForTheBeer: Lots of folks are going to suggest building your own
I have nowhere NEAR the tech knowledge to do that. And before somebody steps in here and says "It's easy!", no, i'm serious. I have almost 0 knowledge of this stuff. I can't even tell you what all the specs on a computer mean.
Post edited October 14, 2016 by zeogold
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HereForTheBeer: Lots of folks are going to suggest building your own
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zeogold: I have nowhere NEAR the tech knowledge to do that. And before somebody steps in here and says "It's easy!", no, i'm serious. I have almost 0 knowledge of this stuff. I can't even tell you what all the specs on a computer mean.
If you get the itch, keep in mind that it's mostly a mechanical job requiring some thought (aka, reading instructions, especially for the case and motherboard), a couple screwdrivers, and maybe a needle-nose pliers. And youtube has probably a squidgillion videos about it. Don't forget to borrow your uncle's handy book of swear words, and also keep band-aids handy. Some of those cases have sharp edges and I'll be damned if I don't manage to find every single one of them.

One nice thing is that the process hasn't changed radically over the last 20-30 years so if you ever get your hands on a dead desktop from 10 years back, you can play around with that to get a feel for what you'd be dealing with. You almost have to go out of your way to screw it up badly these days.
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zeogold: I have nowhere NEAR the tech knowledge to do that. And before somebody steps in here and says "It's easy!", no, i'm serious. I have almost 0 knowledge of this stuff. I can't even tell you what all the specs on a computer mean.
Along with YouTube videos, like HereForTheBeer suggested, I think there are still the "How To For Dumbies" books. I used one of those when I built a desktop 12 years ago. The only problem I ran into was that the power supply I had wasn't strong enough for the graphics card I'd bought, so I had to run to the store for a bigger one.

It's much easier than you might think.
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PainOfSalvation: Do you plan to overclock or not?
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zeogold: .....huh?
Gonna quote you: "After much consideration, I think I may be leaning towards getting a desktop instead. It's just more bang for the buck. I should probably just make a new thread, but...eh.
Any desktop suggestions?"

1. I can make you overclocking desktop build

2. I can make you non-overclock version

Edit: Just made a mix build in case you want to upgrade it in the future:

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/HzLK7h
Post edited October 15, 2016 by PainOfSalvation