serisoly im so durnk i lovea ya all im gpnna take a shit on my mouses ass
Have a great end of thingd of hte thign +9000

LOL - epic post! +1

Haha...I think this is exactly what the thread required right now since things were really heating up in here, so a +1 for your drunken profession of love for everyone Sebek. ;)

ok i have said what i wanted to say and try now not to post on so everything gets cool again

Maybe not the right place to ask this, but how was Disney?

I know I said I was out of this but I think I can help you understand what people mean and end all this with a simple analogy:

You have a large group of people who you go drinking with regularly. Some are friends some are acquaintances etc etc but it is a well balanced group.

Most of the group will buy a round of drinks or get a round of shots in randomly for the camaraderie of all, generally your friends all buy in rounds some occasionally bring a load of shots with their round but its generally all good.

There are a couple of people who never even bring their wallet. They drink the shots and take their drinks from people getting rounds but they don't spend a penny.

In your group of friends all drinking you would notice this and they would be seen and pointed out by at least one of the group as behaving a bit shitty no?

Again I am not accusing anyone of this behaviour I am just trying to make the concept understandable (which seems massively difficult)

But seriously now I am truly out of this unpleasantness! I hope I helped make things understandable.

Well, as I said before: I don't think you are a scammer and I don't think that you trade games you got gifted on a regular base. I just want to help you to understand why people might not like your behaviour.

You are probably right that you just entered just giveaways where you match the conditions (even if you sometimes shout "I want it" before you even read the conditions). But just because you can enter a giveaway or take a code, doesn't mean that you should always do so.
I take a game from xckx or from other members once in a while as well (and nobody cares). But when I do so, I always try to play the game as soon as possible and I won't take another gift, before I completed it. I also try to give feedback how I liked the game (e.g. you could use the "Finished Games in 2014" thread) and whenever possible, I try to leave something in return if I take something.

I don't want to force you to do the things in the same way then me (everybody has to find his or her own way), but I can guerantee you that people will like you better if you show a little more modesty and not take everything, just because you can. Participate in other threads as well, try to give feedback and be friendly and helpful and give back from time to time (in one way or another). You will probably still get more than enogh games, but things will be much easier.

+1 :D

Bloody hot, but awesome. We had a blast and on the return travel day we had a ton of time to kill, so went to Downtown Disney (you don't need a pass to go there) and caught Guardians of the Galaxy in 3D IMAX. It was great (hence the new avatar). Feel free to PM if you're interested in more details.

I think its appropriate, Disney has been scamming people for years now with shoddy DTV sequels to their classic animated movies. :P

If I might interject, I only plan to post this one thing, and then I'll be quiet.

I have nothing personal against you, Apehater. xckx has the right to give games to anyone he chooses, and if you're the one he chooses, so be it.

If you're the first person to reply to a game drop of mine, and you've fulfilled the conditions I've set on it, the game's yours.

However, what I think people are saying is, even if you're the quickest on the keyboard, to take a moment and think if you really want the game.

An analogy I'll use imperfectly is if you're at a party with a 20 other people. The host has put out free food and drink. Do you take every single bottle and cake and snack on the table because it's there and you'd like to eat/drink it, or do you leave something for the other 20 people?

What I'm getting from these posts is that you're becoming known for coming to the party and grabbing a lot of the food and drink. What people are asking is when do you have time to play all the games you've gotten if you're always grabbing more games/food/drink?

How much can you eat before your stomach bursts? [And I have to link to this, because how often can I link this when it's relevent?! XD]

And as you've said, you're giving games to your brother. That's all well and good. People enter Giveaways for other people. but if I want a game for someone else, it's courteous to tell that person it's not for you, you're going to pass it on to someone else. Otherwise, it's rude.

Analogy 2: You've just given a Christmas present to someone, but then you find out later that the guy you gave it to just passed it along to someone else. How would you feel if something you thought was worthwhile was deemed unworthy enough to be given away, just like that? It's disrespectful. Remember, people spent their own real life money for these games that are being given away.

Contrary to everyone's wishes, money does not grow on trees. These gifts of games represents someone's hard work and (at least my) wishes for a better world where all people are generous and kind.
Just because they're being given away doesn't mean they're disposable.

I enter a lot of GA's, and I'm trading like a squirrel that's just seen the first snow. I'm "slightly" panicked because I'll be out of a job in 1 and a half months. My health prospects are exceedingly bad, which means the chances of my getting a job, any job I can do are extremely low. I foresee a barren, cold, long winter for myself, and I'm buying games and trading games to build my self confidence - shopping therapy! - and also so that I will have games to play when the days of nothingness envelops me. I know in a while I won't have any money coming in and there'll always be money going out.

But that doesn't mean I can't give back while I can. My self-respects demands I give as good as I take, so if I win a game, I give a game. It may not be as good as the game I won or got, but, hopefully, it will give someone else pleasure.

The bottom line is, if you're not playing the games you win, and they're just sitting in your library, they're not giving anyone pleasure, and effectively, you've taken that possible pleasure from someone else and locked it up in your library.

Anyway, TL:DR, be happy!

hope you get yourself sorted pal :s Also dont be shy about looking into benifits if you need to. A lot of people are to proud and dickish to look into it but being a fellow blightonian one of my good mates is autistic and he gets more benifits than I have ever been payed in my life and he can support a family/rent a house and has 400 games in his steam library so if you can work it out its not all as grim as it may seem in our country, just gotta look in to it and don't feel wrong about getting help :)

<3

Why are we singling out apehater for this greedy lecherous behavior?

Is it because he is relatively new and has such low rep?

Yes, his behavior may have been a bit much but come on guys, why pick on this guy and let EVERY OTHER PERSON WHO DOES THE EXACT SAME THING get away with it over and over again and never ever call them out so they can keep on with the leeching.
Some people in this very thread criticizing apehater (and previous scammers) have a much worse ratio than he does for leeching. Much worse. 14 taken and 4 given? Honestly, thats kind of admirable for a leecher.

I don't keep count of such things but its so obvious who the leechers of the community are if you open your eyes. apehater is nowhere near the worst offender even if he's been pretty obvious lately.

Do we want to do something about this or just keep picking on the new guys who are only trying to keep up with the old guard who have been doing this AND getting away with it for years.

Lets not get all high and mighty and virtuous over one single example and have all of you pile on him while letting everyone else behaving the exact same way get a free pass (along with the free games they just pilfered while apehater was being made an example of).

I actually started out making more general statements. It's only when he continues to be so damned blind to what everyone is trying to tell him and insisting it's a "witch hunt" that i had to be more direct.

What apehater doesn't seem to understand is some of us are actually trying to help him. Do I put it in a harsh way? Maybe. I'm kind of a Dick sometimes.

I'm 100% in agreement that apehater isn't the worst offender on this site... his recent binge was pretty egregious, and he (and others) are working on "exiling" themselves to only the ninja threads. But, they will have done that to themselves and will have EARNED that exile.

You EARN your reputation here, and everywhere in life. (and I don't mean that little number under your name) I mean the one that people notice, the one that when people see your "name" the thought that comes into their head about you.
Just because someone doesn't SAY anything doesn't mean no one noticed.

I can see validity in both of your arguments, but I have to say that I don't understand why either of your posts got down-repped.

I do, however, understand 100% why this got a big +1. ;)