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TStael: Ken Saro-Wiwa was a Nigerian environmental activist that campaigned against abusive and environmentally devastating local drilling practices against Royal Shell; and his government for allowing it to happen.
Thank you. BreOl72's link also helped. I think that I was discouraged from looking for an answer from just that Youtube link, with no understanding or context. I simply thought he was some computer game-related person.

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Klumpen0815: People should rather care about and support the living before it doesn't help them anymore.
I would agree more easily with you if you had used the expression "care more". I do think that those who came before us provide us with guidance, good examples and food for thought. History is important.We must not forget.
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TStael: Ken Saro-Wiwa was a Nigerian environmental activist that campaigned against abusive and environmentally devastating local drilling practices against Royal Shell; and his government for allowing it to happen.
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Gede: Thank you. BreOl72's link also helped. I think that I was discouraged from looking for an answer from just that Youtube link, with no understanding or context. I simply thought he was some computer game-related person.
Hum --- you are not exactly a forum ingénue, are you, now, Gede?

But if you wish, I will happily translate the lyrics for u.

And now that you finally know, what say you - hanging environmental campaigners is pretty horrible? Or something more indifferent?



Edit: Italics.
Post edited November 15, 2015 by TStael
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TStael: Hum --- you are not exactly a forum ingénue, are you, now, Gede?
Not totally, but I don't consider myself a savant either --- I'm far from that!
I think I was on "gamer mode", and saw nothing that I could perceive as a change of subject. I'm sorry for not being more keen.

I don't want to bother you with it, but if you would provide me with the highlights of the song, I am a bit curious.

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TStael: And now that you finally know, what say you - hanging environmental campaigners is pretty horrible? Or something more indifferent?
I think the world keeps reminding us that it is not a very nice place; and some things defy comprehension, like man's inhumanity towards man.
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Randalator: Because they are about as well-known as Ken Saro-Wiwa.
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TStael: You know Ken Saro-Wiwa at least, Randalator, right?
No, I really don't.
And you would flippantly draw parallel between a major human rights' crime and an accidental loss of life - why?
Because I have no clue who Ken Saro-Wiwa is.

And since you couldn't be assed to provide even a single link with any information on the guy you can't really fault me for the same amount of don't-give-a-shittery...
You could try and write him to ask, you know, about Ken Saro-Wiwa.
Somehow I think that you providing information would have been a lot less of a hassle to everyone involved (or not involved as would be the case of certains heads of state)...
Who ?

My reaction to this thread is at 0:50 seconds of the video below-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epPoKUHNM-o
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TStael: You know Ken Saro-Wiwa at least, Randalator, right?
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Randalator: No, I really don't.

And you would flippantly draw parallel between a major human rights' crime and an accidental loss of life - why?
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Randalator: Because I have no clue who Ken Saro-Wiwa is.

And since you couldn't be assed to provide even a single link with any information on the guy you can't really fault me for the same amount of don't-give-a-shittery...

You could try and write him to ask, you know, about Ken Saro-Wiwa.
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Randalator: Somehow I think that you providing information would have been a lot less of a hassle to everyone involved (or not involved as would be the case of certains heads of state)...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Saro-Wiwa

There you go. Not that hard, technically, eh? ;-p

But what I find bit unusual is the fact that you care nothing for procedural justness; nor for environmental standards. That is the human consideration.

Care to have the translation, Randalator? You might just have a bit more clue then, eh? :-)
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tort1234: Who ?

My reaction to this thread is at 0:50 seconds of the video below-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epPoKUHNM-o
See above, tort1234 - if you like.
Post edited November 21, 2015 by TStael
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TStael: But what I find bit unusual is the fact that you care nothing for procedural justness; nor for environmental standards. That is the human consideration.
Keep beating that strawman, you cute little fuzzy-wuzzy.
RIP. Too bad filthy feel-good shams like PETA get more attention than real environmental activism these days.
I'll always remember Wayne Static.
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TStael: But what I find bit unusual is the fact that you care nothing for procedural justness; nor for environmental standards. That is the human consideration.
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Randalator: Keep beating that strawman, you cute little fuzzy-wuzzy.
Just ignore it... When I told her that she shouldn't use the word "cum" (as in "Syrians cum Iraquis", or "what do you care about the letters cum abbreviations") I got the "You have homoerotic fantasies and feel uncomfortable when LGBT people are allowed to enjoy video games too" treatment -.-
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TStael: But what I find bit unusual is the fact that you care nothing for procedural justness; nor for environmental standards. That is the human consideration.
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Randalator: Keep beating that strawman, you cute little fuzzy-wuzzy.
So you say - but I doubt you think that Germany has too few refugees - but maybe you are not quite the voting age...

--or more likely feel just a little embarrassed to have voted for fuzzy-wuzzy leader yeurself.

Right? :-) Right! :-D

But that is no reason to wish other nation to do ill.
Is there a legitimate reason why everyone's being a dick to Tstael for making a thread remembering someone he/she admires? I miss a memo here?
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Hawk52: Is there a legitimate reason why everyone's being a dick to Tstael for making a thread remembering someone he/she admires? I miss a memo here?
Probably not. In my defense - I was remembering someone I admired too, as I had no real input for or against TStael. I lost my capacity to argue a month or so ago (with the exception of my passionate discussion with a certain game dev).
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Hawk52: Is there a legitimate reason why everyone's being a dick to Tstael for making a thread remembering someone he/she admires? I miss a memo here?
They have a history of making threads/posts about their pet causes, only to greet anything but complete agreement (and sometimes even that) with completely unrelated accusations. That's a quick way to burn bridges, and the moral grandstanding isn't exactly a great way of making friends, either.

So they started this thread already on thin ice with some people.
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Randalator: Keep beating that strawman, you cute little fuzzy-wuzzy.
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TStael: So you say - but I doubt you think that Germany has too few refugees - but maybe you are not quite the voting age...

--or more likely feel just a little embarrassed to have voted for fuzzy-wuzzy leader yeurself.

Right? :-) Right! :-D

But that is no reason to wish other nation to do ill.
No no no no, that was much too random and disjointed. Come on, you can do better. Put a little effort in it.