That would be better but is very unlikely, most devs don't care enough about their older games to remove it.
Most don't even care about it for their new games or don't target pirats with their DRM in the first place.

So I rather hope for a DRM that backfires on them so they get more cautious with it at least for a while.

Yeah, I bought the game on release, but downloaded the crack nonetheless when it was released. Just in case they decide to close Origin at some point.

Why were they cracked?

Just 'cause.

Wonder if Denuvo gives money back guarantee to devs who buy the product only to find its crackable...

When this has ever actually happened? It seems to me it would be more accurate to say it will push devs into producing even worse DRM. That's what has happened before.

The DRM just needs to be bad enough to the point that Joe-Average-Gamer reconsiders his plans to buy some fancy new AAA release. The majority doesn't really care much about DRM and mandatory online clients, certainly not as much as most GOG customers do, but everyone has their limits. Securom and similar protection, Ubisoft's Always-Online DRM, the crap MS had originally planned for the Xbone release... Companies have taken hits to their image ( and sales ) before, because they pushed their customers too far. They just need to piss off a number of potential customers that's large enough to have a significant impact on their sales.

But you're right, in the long run it's likely to only get worse. If only because the younger generation of gamers ( and computer users ) is growing up with Steam, Origin, MMOs -- to them, mandatory clients or online requirements for games are "normal", because they never knew any different. And then the next generation will probably grow up with nothing but streamed digital content. :/

Ow please, I've known different (since C64) and I'm completely fine with most DRM except some egregious versions (like always online) because realistically it hardly ever is a problem and I'm fine with developers/publishers protecting their income if they think it's warranted, at least for a while (ideally 1-2 years max).

And no, I don't believe all pirates = lost sales, but there is absolutely a subgroup that buys if they have no pirate option.

As said, ideal world for me would be a couple of years of DRM and then dropping it from their game. (and yes, that's not something that would easily be achieved).

Realistically it is absurd that the single player game I want to play is telling me to first connect online to play the game or even install it (steam backups never restore offline). As someone who just installed an offline instance of Office 2016 yesterday in the middle of a lecture offline, I want to be certain that the game is always installable and playable.

Realistically it is a problem, contrary to what you said. But hey, I'm in a world where absolutely anything and everything I must find a crack for in order to totally bypass the stupid notion of "protecting their income." You can do that sure, but not at my expense, especially when I've fed you income. There, how else can I make it better for you so you can let me have the ability to install and play offline now?

Yea, like I said, hardly ever. I can hardly imagine a situation where I'd have a laptop at hand during a lecture, not have office on it but somehow I'd have access to an offline instance of it ready to install anyway... (why? Sitting on the computer? or in your bag? Why was it not installed?). On top of that, if you're in a school/university building around here you have access to student wifi anyway. I never said the contrary of this, I said it was rare.

Not really. On the three days I'm in college, I spend my entire day there simply because travel from and to home is just torture, I'd rather spend some time there THEN go back. Installing Office, or pretty much *anything* there is not something unusual while waiting for the professor to come, sometimes even while the professor is giving the lecture even (installing Office is as simple as running a batch file for me). Wifi? In my college? News.

I am friends with a guy in my town who knows how to make a crack to let every game on steamworks work without steam... even I know a bit about it myself after he shown me the works around it. but it's funny how these companies punish the user with DRM when they should get rid of it and find way around what makes people pirate games and combat it in a good way. Denuvo think they are unbreakable pfft. about 70% of there catalog has been proven crack-able.

I love to see Denuvo in a good 7 years, wonder if they will still be around when big devs or small know they are not good like they state they are? beats me but lets see over time.

So you're carrying around a bunch of uninstalled software for that rare situation you might need it?

Probably ideally it needs to last ~3 months before it's cracked (not happening lately). That would be the sweetspot. They're not under an illusion it'll never be cracked.

That said, Denuvo cracked editions, even though they *are* getting cracked aren't usually the greatest editions because they'll likely be lacking DLC and the latest patches which to many pirates is still 'not good enough'. You at least get to try the game though so that's something, and if it pulls people in for a sale due to lacking features/dlc all the better I guess.

Denuvo or... Denovo? ;P

Know what? I have to agree on that, I never looked at it that way hmm