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So, my conclusion is that there is a need for a function that stops your downloads of a game if it gets updated while you are downloading and maybe even gives a warning of some kind.
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Themken: So, my conclusion is that there is a need for a function that stops your downloads of a game if it gets updated while you are downloading and maybe even gives a warning of some kind.
Already have that, as I said earlier. Doesn't help anything if you have already downloaded a significant amount.
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Timboli: [...]
They can provide updates as often as they like ... but just give us a decent chance to download them ... give us a grace period.
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amok: if you stop a little and think about what you are saying here, it really do not make any sense
I think you need to do better than just spout a one-liner, you actually need to explain why that is the case, because I certainly disagree with you, my sense of things say otherwise.
Post edited January 28, 2023 by Timboli
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amok: if you stop a little and think about what you are saying here, it really do not make any sense
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Timboli: I think you need to do better than just spout a one-liner, you actually need to explain why that is the case, because I certainly disagree with you, my sense of things say otherwise.
First of all, it is illogicaly constructed. you say "They can provide updates as often as they like ", but then this whole thread is a complaint that are doing just so. this does not make sense. either they can provide updates as often they like, or they can't. you need to make up your mind, you can not have it both ways.

secondly, the premise is flawed. if a software has a bug, I would hope that they will patch it and provide the patch as soon as possible, not artifically create a waiting time for you to be able to download the first flawed software... for only then to download the new patched software later anyway. not only is this creating a waiting time which is not needed, but it would be to the detriment of other users of the software. so this premise also do not make sense, and at its core it is extremely egotisitcal.
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MarkoH01: I do understand. But do you really want to continue archiving a version that is already outdated - maybe even broken - the moment you download it? Maybe there was something really wrong with the first update and you would have wasted even more time by fnishing this download, realizing that it does not work as it should and then start yet another download of the new version.
I hear what you are saying, and agree to a point.
This is why Changelogs should be provided and kept up-to-date, otherwise we are flying blind.
In many cases there is always going to be another update, which I would grab further down the road. However for now I just wanted a version of the game that supported the SDK DLC. I can worry about further updates later.

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MarkoH01: Easiest way to make all people happy of course would be if devs (and this is all on the devs) would decide to offer update patches along with full downloads ... especially for big games like this one.
Totally, which should have been the case here if something was bad enough, and of course many do. This is even more important with a such a large game.

In summary, we need Changelog entries, proper patches and where sensible, a grace period.
If the update is broken, then checking the Changelog we would discover that and either be thankful we did not download more, or we would then continue and finish off by downloading the patch file(s) that should be provided.
If the update wasn't broken, then no reason to not keep downloading it, and we can grab the next update at our convenience after a period of whatever.
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amok: First of all, it is illogicaly constructed. you say "They can provide updates as often as they like ", but then this whole thread is a complaint that are doing just so. this does not make sense. either they can provide updates as often they like, or they can't. you need to make up your mind, you can not have it both ways.
Clearly you have not read properly what I have written, and I am definitely not asking for both ways.
If you had read what I wrote properly, you would see I never did complain about how soon they provided the next update, I have only complained about the period of grace (none) to download the previous update, which had only been available for a day. In short, both updates should be available for a reasonable period, my suggestion of two weeks is fair ... after that, they remove the older one.

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amok: secondly, the premise is flawed. if a software has a bug, I would hope that they will patch it and provide the patch as soon as possible, not artifically create a waiting time for you to be able to download the first flawed software... for only then to download the new patched software later anyway. not only is this creating a waiting time which is not needed, but it would be to the detriment of other users of the software. so this premise also do not make sense, and at its core it is extremely egotisitcal.
If indeed it was due to a bug, and a significant one, as all games have bugs, it just depends on how serious the bug is. And you are completely overlooking why I wanted this particular update ... support for the SDK DLC.

And if it was a significant bug, then create a Changelog entry and provide patch file(s), not just a full update of the whole game.

Egotistical my ass.

This is not just about me. You should consider those who were working through the download list of files, downloading via browser links, and not realizing the version number had changed. If they dd not realize that, they would have a broken backup (some files one version, some another), and in this case quite a sizable amount of drive space wasted. They would likely never realize their backup was broken, until they tried to use it at some future date.

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I think having a grace period is a good idea, and one step toward providing older versions of a game. If they don't do at least that, then what are our chances of older versions ever being provided.

Attacking me in this thread is ridiculous, by all those doing so, and pointless because you won't change my view one iota, because only logic can do that. All those not supporting me, are only encouraging GOG to continue with business as usual .... that means ongoing lack of Changelogs or entries, no patch files where there should be, and no period of grace where warranted. I am only asking for what is fair and reasonable and complaining because we still don't have it.

P.S. I am now done with this thread. I have said all I need to say, every which way and I am not fond of repeating myself. By all means if others want to keep posting, do so, but realize I won't be reading them. I've put up with enough crap in this thread already, and have better things to do with my life, which is about much more than gaming.

I've made my point(s) and are moving on.

Have fun!
Post edited January 28, 2023 by Timboli
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amok: First of all, it is illogicaly constructed. you say "They can provide updates as often as they like ", but then this whole thread is a complaint that are doing just so. this does not make sense. either they can provide updates as often they like, or they can't. you need to make up your mind, you can not have it both ways.
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Timboli: Clearly you have not read properly what I have written, and I am definitely not asking for both ways.
If you had read what I wrote properly, you would see I never did complain about how soon they provided the next update, I have only complained about the period of grace (none) to download the previous update, which had only been available for a day. In short, both updates should be available for a reasonable period, my suggestion of two weeks is fair ... after that, they remove the older one.

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amok: secondly, the premise is flawed. if a software has a bug, I would hope that they will patch it and provide the patch as soon as possible, not artifically create a waiting time for you to be able to download the first flawed software... for only then to download the new patched software later anyway. not only is this creating a waiting time which is not needed, but it would be to the detriment of other users of the software. so this premise also do not make sense, and at its core it is extremely egotisitcal.
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Timboli: If indeed it was due to a bug, and a significant one, as all games have bugs, it just depends on how serious the bug is. And you are completely overlooking why I wanted this particular update ... support for the SDK DLC.

And if it was a significant bug, then create a Changelog entry and provide patch file(s), not just a full update of the whole game.

Egotistical my ass.

This is not just about me. You should consider those who were working through the download list of files, downloading via browser links, and not realizing the version number had changed. If they dd not realize that, they would have a broken backup (some files one version, some another), and in this case quite a sizable amount of drive space wasted. They would likely never realize their backup was broken, until they tried to use it at some future date.

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I think having a grace period is a good idea, and one step toward providing older versions of a game. If they don't do at least that, then what are our chances of older versions ever being provided.

Attacking me in this thread is ridiculous, by all those doing so, and pointless because you won't change my view one iota, because only logic can do that. All those not supporting me, are only encouraging GOG to continue with business as usual .... that means ongoing lack of Changelogs or entries, no patch files where there should be, and no period of grace where warranted. I am only asking for what is fair and reasonable and complaining because we still don't have it.

P.S. I am now done with this thread. I have said all I need to say, every which way and I am not fond of repeating myself. By all means if others want to keep posting, do so, but realize I won't be reading them. I've put up with enough crap in this thread already, and have better things to do with my life, which is about much more than gaming.

I've made my point(s) and are moving on.

Have fun!
When one has clearly been outmanoeuvred, logically, arbitrarily declare victory, then retire from the arena at flank speed. SOS LOL
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Timboli:
hey. thanks for bringing it up. considering my not so fast net speed it takes days to dl my games' installers sometimes.
now I'll check my offline backups if there were such... occasions and I didn't notice 'em.
catch my +1.
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Timboli: ...
I understand your point, worry not. Unfortunately with gog, stuff is kinda flaky at times, both on technical and communication level, so we can only assume who messed things up. Maybe it was just a rookie mistake of some intern at gog. Still, if the game is fresh, it might be better to give it some time... also I'm not the biggest fan of galaxy but I think it would have handled the patching better, if you wanted to play right away and there is "risk" of megapatching soon to follow.

Still, if the package/archive is borked and they find out early enough, they might decide to pull the plug right away, so people won't waste the time/bandwidth/nerves. Not the best solution, but I see that this could have been the reasoning behind it, if the package was deemed way2borked4gog. Sucks for people in the middle of download and those who already downloaded, but we don't know what portion of the userbase are the early birds... so lesser evil and all that at works here maybe.

I've kept feedbacking, surveying, tech.supporting and commenting gog for years at various occasions to provide every previous version of each game for download that was ever hosted here for users. Either through galaxy or offline installer links. Or at least every key version (i.e. very first release version, then last one before some expansion, then last one before some "enhancing" occurred, etc). Grace period for download links is nice, but having them remain permanent would have been even better. Still, if the build was bad in this case ... it better be gone imo. There are loftier things to archive than 200GB of some rookie's mistake.

Patchnotes are a lost art these days, not just here but often on steam game hubs too. We have console market to thank for that, since they are used to consume stuff without question (well, without a choice most of the time - at least for the mainstream user), so devs don't even bother with patchnotes. Also it would be a funny read in some cases... e.g. reading patchnotes like: "Censored assets xyz, because we want to sell this game in China and we cba to provide them with their own watered-down regional version, so here - enjoy their policy globally." etc. Or the consumer-friendly, politically correct version of it, naturally. Not every update is an upgrade after all...

Btw do you have only the newest, most recent versions of offline installers archived? Unrelated to Metro, but ff you happen to have setup_baseball_stars_2_gog-3_(12273).exe backed up, keep it as it is the best version. The following 2 patches are hackjobs. Wish we had a database for stuff like that, where the newer versions are actually fully inferior.
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Spectrum_Legacy: ...ff you happen to have setup_baseball_stars_2_gog-3_(12273).exe backed up...
Art of Fighting II was also altered to remove a reference to Imperial Japan or something. Not sure what else and I don't remember the build number for the last uncensored version. It might be 14723.
Post edited January 28, 2023 by DoomSooth
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Spectrum_Legacy: if the game is fresh, it might be better to give it some time
agreed, when possible
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Timboli: [...]
Egotistical my ass.
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I dont know your ass, did you call it Egiotisitcal or is it egotistical? is it qute?

I kinda miss TinyE now and his 3 asses
Post edited January 28, 2023 by amok
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Spectrum_Legacy: ...ff you happen to have setup_baseball_stars_2_gog-3_(12273).exe backed up...
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DoomSooth: Art of Fighting II was also altered to remove a reference to Imperial Japan or something. Not sure what else and I don't remember the build number for the last uncensored version. It might be 14723.
Yea that's right, although AoF2 has rollback still enabled via galaxy... probably as an oversight. So one can still get back to the original version, unlike BS2 that has rollback disabled (or purged previous versions from the list more like).

The flag is not strictly that of Imperial Japan during ww2. It is an old design, more than 300 years old in fact, originating some time in Edo period. It is still used to this day by both land and naval forces of Japan, as globally recognised insignia. Just the ground forces use a simplified version with 8 red beams only. I've attached the ingame depiction before and after the censor occured in 2020. I've inserted the smaller picture for comparison too, it is from the stage intro and resembles more the current flag of ground forces (although it was likely an artistic choice back then due to tech limitation / too low resolution to draw more beams at sufficient detail).

But someone gets to be offended by this or that detail somewhere in the world regardless, so they demand removals, censorships and cancellations, despite it being an undeniable piece of history, failing to see the whole picture. Same crap happened in Street fighter 2 in Honda's stage, it's just pathetic.
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GOG, the offline-installer for "setup_metro_exodus_-_sams_story_3.0.8.38_(64bit)_(61934).exe" is broken. Please fix!!!
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hermes1276: GOG, the offline-installer for "setup_metro_exodus_-_sams_story_3.0.8.38_(64bit)_(61934).exe" is broken. Please fix!!!
Better to talk to Support about that.
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hermes1276: GOG, the offline-installer for "setup_metro_exodus_-_sams_story_3.0.8.38_(64bit)_(61934).exe" is broken. Please fix!!!
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DoomSooth: Better to talk to Support about that.
It depends. For me, in one recent case, addressing the devs directly resolved the issue.

I don't believe support has the direct means to fix such things. I think at best, they just relay the request to someone else (probably the game devs I'm guessing).