Posted October 19, 2016
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Shadowstalker16
Jaded optimist
Registered: Apr 2014
From India
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Bad Hair Day
Find me in STEAM OT
Registered: Dec 2012
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Ariod
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Registered: Mar 2014
From United States
Posted October 19, 2016
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Where they differ is their priorities. Trump prioritizes Americanism, Hillary prioritizes globalism. How can you judge which goal is more important when both are important? Trump's platform is that we've neglected to take care of our own. Hillary's is that we can fix all problems, but the priority isn't on just ours. The voters have to decide with a history like on the wasteful spending of $10,000,000 to train 10 Iraqi soldiers to fight ISIS (Russia's entire military budget is $50,000,000 per year for the country according to Putin) that could have been spent on fixing our cities and people here, or to the successes we've had with it (anywhere non-middle east typically) where we save and change lives worldwide.
To pick one candidate clearly over the other is to not acknowledge all of the problems we have to deal with. Going on about scandals and "mean words" of a billionaire playboy or a corrupt politician with a history of bribery and fraud isn't productive, nor is poking at their supporters on either side (even if those supporters are indeed ignorant and/or malicious). Both have stupid people, both have smart people, and we all just want it to be over without the crazies on either side inciting violence and hatred. OP may be into the conspiracy theories and not open to alternative views so much, but he's harmless and that's what matters.
Trump doesn't want to nuke the world, Hillary may be a crooked politician (just when we stop caring more emails appear) but she'll do a better job than Obama. Either way we'll be fine, though personally Trump is more of what we need for ourselves (at least 4 years of a focus on fixing our local shit. It's really, really bad). I would have liked a Trump with Bernie VP presidency personally, but there was too much conflict for that and Bernie thought he had a better shot with Hillary. It would've guaranteed a Trump victory with his support and taken down both of our parties with it. Oh well though. :/
And I would know, I've been with the Sanders campaign since day 1, and if there is one thing Bernie has made clear to us, from the start, and consistenly throughout the campaign, is how he feels about Donald Trump. And to put it kindly, that would be something in the ballpark of "piece of shit". Put kindly. The only thing Bernie has ever wanted to do involving Donald Trump is to hand him his ass in the general election.
I can appreciate your points about looking at this election rationally and throwing out the scandal BS from both sides and trying to actually get down to the policies these candidates represent. But one thing that ignores is the difference in terms of experience, temperment and intelligence, which leaves me with zero confidence that Trump would actually go through with anything he's tallking about. Even beyond the negative impression he gives me each time I hear him talk, as a non-politician and honestly non-leader in his life so far, there really is no basis to go on to believe he'd do the things he says he'd do. At least with Hillary we have a comparably massive track record of experience in public office to give us some idea of what she might actually follow through on or not. And that also shows she is sane and rational. Yeah Trump doesn't exactly inspire confidence in me that he's got "sane and rational" in his back pocket there, and just hasn't showed it throughout the campaign. Obviously I'm a Bernie guy, and I don't particuarly like either of these candidates, but Trump just gives me and many others a whole lot more *not* to like, so much that it's not even a contest. Hence why the election probably won't be much of one either...
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Kleetus
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From Australia
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echo e.lolfiu_fefiipieue|tr valueof_pi [0-9]
Registered: Aug 2013
From United States
Posted October 19, 2016
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But some of the most important things posted.... Probably news of the <span class="bold">COG</span>/shadow government from <span class="bold">FBI</span> files, The Haiti disaster as it currently is after the storm (more to be posted today), and probably Voter fraud covered by the Veritas project (new stuff daily I think). Oh right, and the threat of WW3.
I really wish I noticed this and was following along for 1-2 years longer. Was more interested in gaming news. Still I'll be cooling it for a day or two, got dental stuff coming up and that takes me out for a day, and the debate I'll be watching most of it, 13 hours is too much to try and cover.
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Bad Hair Day
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Registered: Dec 2012
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Posted October 19, 2016
Fun Things To Do In An Elevator
Announce in a demonic voice: "I must find a more suitable host body."
Ask each passenger getting on if you can press the button for them.
Bet the other passengers you can fit a quarter in your nose.
Blow spit bubbles.
Blow your nose and offer to show the contents of your tissue to other passengers.
Bring a chair along.
Burp, and then say "mmmm...tasty!"
Carry a blanket and clutch it protectively.
Crack open your briefcase or purse, and while peering inside ask: "Got enough air in there?"
Do Tai Chi exercises.
Draw a little square on the floor with chalk and announce to the other passengers that this is your "personal space."
Flatulence!
Give religious tracts to each passenger.
Greet everyone getting on the elevator with a warm handshake and ask them to call you Admiral.
Grimace painfully while smacking your forehead and muttering: "Shut up, all of you just shut UP!"
Holler "Chutes away!" whenever the elevator descends.
If anyone brushes against you, recoil and holler "Bad touch!"
Lean against the button panel.
Lean over to another passenger and whisper: "Noogie patrol coming!"
Leave a box between the doors.
Listen to the elevator walls with a stethoscope.
Make explosion noises when anyone presses a button.
Make race car noises when anyone gets on or off.
Meow occasionally.
Offer name tags to everyone getting on the elevator. Wear yours upside-down.
On a long ride, sway side to side at the natural frequency of the elevator.
On the highest floor, hold the door open and demand that it stay open until you hear the penny you dropped down the shaft go "plink" at the bottom.
Play the harmonica.
Pull your gum out of your mouth in long strings.
Say "Ding!" at each floor.
Say "I wonder what all these do" and push the red buttons.
Sell Girl Scout cookies.
Shadow box.
Shave.
Show other passengers a wound and ask if it looks infected.
Sing "Mary had a little lamb" while continually pushing buttons.
Stand silent and motionless in the corner, facing the wall, without getting off.
Stare at another passenger for a while, then announce "You're one of THEM!" and move to the far corner of the elevator.
Stare at your thumb and say "I think it's getting larger."
Stare, grinning, at another passenger for a while, and then announce: "I've got new socks on!"
Start a sing-along.
Take a bite of a sandwich and ask another passenger: "Wanna see wha in muh mouf?"
Walk on with a cooler that says "human head" on the side.
Wear a puppet on your hand and talk to other passengers "through" it.
Wear "X-Ray Specs" and leer suggestively at other passengers.
When arriving at your floor, grunt and strain to yank the doors open, then act embarrassed when they open by themselves.
When at least 8 people have boarded, moan from the back: "Oh, not now, motion sickness!"
When the elevator is silent, look around and ask "is that your beeper?"
Whistle the first seven notes of "It's a Small World" incessantly.
Announce in a demonic voice: "I must find a more suitable host body."
Ask each passenger getting on if you can press the button for them.
Bet the other passengers you can fit a quarter in your nose.
Blow spit bubbles.
Blow your nose and offer to show the contents of your tissue to other passengers.
Bring a chair along.
Burp, and then say "mmmm...tasty!"
Carry a blanket and clutch it protectively.
Crack open your briefcase or purse, and while peering inside ask: "Got enough air in there?"
Do Tai Chi exercises.
Draw a little square on the floor with chalk and announce to the other passengers that this is your "personal space."
Flatulence!
Give religious tracts to each passenger.
Greet everyone getting on the elevator with a warm handshake and ask them to call you Admiral.
Grimace painfully while smacking your forehead and muttering: "Shut up, all of you just shut UP!"
Holler "Chutes away!" whenever the elevator descends.
If anyone brushes against you, recoil and holler "Bad touch!"
Lean against the button panel.
Lean over to another passenger and whisper: "Noogie patrol coming!"
Leave a box between the doors.
Listen to the elevator walls with a stethoscope.
Make explosion noises when anyone presses a button.
Make race car noises when anyone gets on or off.
Meow occasionally.
Offer name tags to everyone getting on the elevator. Wear yours upside-down.
On a long ride, sway side to side at the natural frequency of the elevator.
On the highest floor, hold the door open and demand that it stay open until you hear the penny you dropped down the shaft go "plink" at the bottom.
Play the harmonica.
Pull your gum out of your mouth in long strings.
Say "Ding!" at each floor.
Say "I wonder what all these do" and push the red buttons.
Sell Girl Scout cookies.
Shadow box.
Shave.
Show other passengers a wound and ask if it looks infected.
Sing "Mary had a little lamb" while continually pushing buttons.
Stand silent and motionless in the corner, facing the wall, without getting off.
Stare at another passenger for a while, then announce "You're one of THEM!" and move to the far corner of the elevator.
Stare at your thumb and say "I think it's getting larger."
Stare, grinning, at another passenger for a while, and then announce: "I've got new socks on!"
Start a sing-along.
Take a bite of a sandwich and ask another passenger: "Wanna see wha in muh mouf?"
Walk on with a cooler that says "human head" on the side.
Wear a puppet on your hand and talk to other passengers "through" it.
Wear "X-Ray Specs" and leer suggestively at other passengers.
When arriving at your floor, grunt and strain to yank the doors open, then act embarrassed when they open by themselves.
When at least 8 people have boarded, moan from the back: "Oh, not now, motion sickness!"
When the elevator is silent, look around and ask "is that your beeper?"
Whistle the first seven notes of "It's a Small World" incessantly.
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MaximumBunny
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Registered: Apr 2012
From United States
Posted October 19, 2016
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My view is that the real version of a person is who they are to the people that don't benefit them in any way at all. Trump has a history of giving money to disabled children and plane rides to veterans returning home, while Hillary has a history of "get that fucking dog away from me" to a military guard. To be fair I've never heard anything positive about her as a person though. It's always about her as the politician and her policies there. If you have examples then feel free to share. :P
Now as a Trump supporter there are things I don't like about him. Global warming denial for instance. But he has more positives than negatives and I have no problems with his views of who he thinks are ugly, fat, or incompetent. That human aspect is a plus. If you look at politicians in the UK they hurl the most creative insults at each other during their meetings and then give each other standing ovations for it. It's fine and entertaining. I also like that him and Pence disagree on so much. I feel like Kaine is a just an annoying kiss ass. If not Bernie, I would have preferred that she picked Cory Booker as VP. That guy's great and I was disappointed that he didn't make the cut for her.
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Kleetus
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From Australia
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Registered: Aug 2013
From United States
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richlind33
bong hits for beelzebub
Registered: Jan 2016
From United States
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Kleetus
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Registered: Sep 2010
From Australia
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Cadaver747
Registered: Mar 2009
From Russian Federation
Posted October 19, 2016
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1. Sionists are behind the New World Order conspiracy through establishing of puppet government in the USA
2. Hillary Clinton will be elected as the new US president no matter what because the elections are rigged
3. WWIII with Russia is imminent
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Emachine9643
"LOL LOL whazza chiggi chugga - love you people!"
Registered: Jul 2013
From United States
Posted October 19, 2016
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Announce in a demonic voice: "I must find a more suitable host body."
Draw a little square on the floor with chalk and announce to the other passengers that this is your "personal space"
Meow occasionally
Stand silent and motionless in the corner, facing the wall, without getting off.
Stare at another passenger for a while, then announce "You're one of THEM!" and move to the far corner of the elevator.
When arriving at your floor, grunt and strain to yank the doors open, then act embarrassed when they open by themselves.
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richlind33
bong hits for beelzebub
Registered: Jan 2016
From United States
Posted October 19, 2016
low rated
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2. Clinton or Trump will be elected as the new US president no matter what because the elections are rigged
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Cadaver747
Registered: Mar 2009
From Russian Federation
Posted October 20, 2016
I have my doubts: very powerful people are behind Hillary Clintron including arms trade, intelligence and security service. She also have a very big "trump" card in her sleeve: she is the first possible lady president, she couldn't lose.
Trump is just a very wealthy man, charismatic and a bit sexist, but still a man. He has little dirt on him to make him a good puppet. I beleive that in case he miraciously wins, they [who?] will try to assasinate him.
Trump is just a very wealthy man, charismatic and a bit sexist, but still a man. He has little dirt on him to make him a good puppet. I beleive that in case he miraciously wins, they [who?] will try to assasinate him.