Maybe just wage war on immigrants and refugees. Nuke Mexico. No wall needed.

This whole thing is getting way too depressing to even think about.

I guess I should look on the bright side, there are only two hard line Trump supporters in here. One of them can't vote because he is no doubt confined to a mental institution, and the other can't vote because he's only thirteen years old. :P

How about the 100 million others? :(

If the alternative wasn't a batshit crazy woman, perhaps Trump would get utterly wiped in this election. But if recent polls is anything to go by, it's actually quite close.

How many turn out may actually decide the election. I suspect many find it hard to vote for Clinton, but if the Democrats can somehow get these to still vote, she has a pretty decent chance. If the turnout is low, she could be in trouble.

As usual, it will come down to the usual key states.

Sure would be nice if the self-declared leader of the free world had a half-decent democratic system.

It doesn't help the Klan is going to act as "security" for the polling places.

THIS JUST IN :P

http://www.theonion.com/article/trump-raises-concern-over-members-urban-communitie-54593

Yeah Thiel seems to represent that narrow fraction of Trump supporters that actually is capable of making an argument for why they support him. Heh, but of course it's a pretty pathetic "argument", as a true "protest vote" should be a non-vote. Instead of voting for the biggest sack of shit we can find, who will do the most possible damage. That's just being an asshole, going "ok I'm fed up with the system, so let's feed it a mouthful of poison and see if it dies as a result or not". And it figures that attitude comes from some super rich fuck who knows that his billions will insulate him from most of the negative shit that comes down on the rest of us as a result of all this.

The irony here is that it's guys like Thiel (maybe not him so much personally because his wealth is relatively new, but others like him) who are most responsible for creating the conditions in this country that have made the Trump phenomenon possible in the first place, as a result of the influence they've had on our system over the last 30ish years. I mean the reason we have this whole class of pissed off working class/middle class-ish white guys who are his "base", is because rich guys and rich corporations have over the years been using their financial influence over government policy to gradually change the rules over time, to benefit themselves financially more and more at the expense of everybody else. Which of course has more or less destroyed the middle class in this country and drastically lowered the standard living of working people, creating this massive crowd of desperate and angry people, who are then all set up for an angry-yet-shallow-as-a-puddle message like Trump's. All the problems that these guys are so pissed off about are the result of the super-wealthy rewriting the rules over a long time.

So the surprisingly simple solution here isn't to destroy the whole thing and start over, which is sort of where Thiel's argument leads. Rather let's just destroy that one thing that has been the root cause of so many problems.- the campaign finance system. Turn *that* thing on its head, not the whole system (which at times in our history has worked very well, to be fair). Make all campaign finance funds come from tax dollars *only*, and give every candidate who has a minimum level of support from voters the same amount to work with. That would quickly put the real power in our system back in the hands of all these pissed off people, and before long their standard of living would start to creep back up and there'd be a whole lot less to be pissed about.

I'll tell you what, if we had been financing our political campaigns the way I suggest all along, we'd have never come to this point. Not now anyways. That is the true root cause of these people's legitimate anger, which then turns into racism and all these other nasty hate things when the people can't quite understand who or what has screwed them.

So the funny thing is that if the average Trump supporter knew his head from his ass, he should be supporting Hillary. Because Sanders and Warren and the progressives have pushed her to commit 100% to campaign finance reform. Whereas I'm not sure Trump knows what "campaign finance reform" even means.

Ah America, ever the land of ultimate irony.....

Ahh don't get too "gloom n doom" guys, the simulations I've just seen this morning still show a 91% chance of a Clinton win. Data-driven simulations are such better predictors these days than polls. It's more or less impossible these days to do any polling that doesn't contain some kind of bias, intentional or not. The simulations that aggregate the polls and factor in demographics and all that have been way more reliable in recent years. And those don't look good for Trump. Aww, what's poor wittle Donnie gonna do on 11/9? Might I suggest a long walk off a short pier? :)

Ha ha, you're low rated.

i'll bite. what conspiracy is this?
www.reuters.com/article/us-indonesia-protests-idUSKBN12X2PI

yeah. nixon who negotiated a peace deal with both china and vietcong to pull USA USA USA out of the war. he didn't start the war. but he did a half-decent job ending it. should i post links?

Technically there there never was a war from the US side of it. That is a lot of semantics, but technically accurate. Again, people aren't reading my post. A President can send troops in on his own, but he can't officially declare war by himself.

I'm sure the millions of dead Vietnamese are grateful to know nobody waged war on them :D


(I know what you're on about, but it's just splitting hairs. Several US presidents have de facto waged war on other countries, and that is what matters, even if they haven't followed the laws of the United States in doing so).


Once Trump presumably loses, hopefully big, it will be interesting (or quite scary) to see how his tinfoilhat army responds.

He could have signed that agreement 1 year earlier but instead chose to continue bombing everything that moved. In the end, bombers were dropping bombs on empty fields because they couldn't find anything that they hadn't already bombed repeatedly.

So they're gonna throw temper tantrums when Hilly thumbs her nose at their alternate-reality fantasies, just like every other Democratic president before her has? lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hn9xAaKUbw

Scary is right on the money.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/27/if-trump-loses-im-grabbing-my-musket-with-12-days-to-go-this-is-what-2016-sounds-like/

Fuck the tinfoil hat army, I'm more worried about the burning cross, Holocaust was a lie, machine gun toting army. You know, the ones that have called for civil war if Adol....I mean Donald, loses the election.

I'm just glad I live where I live and should be relatively safe.