Posted April 03, 2018
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MadalinStroe
Veni, vidi, vici
Registered: Apr 2012
From Romania
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Breja
You're in my spot
Registered: Apr 2012
From Poland
Posted April 03, 2018
What a pathetic wimp! He should be happy to make no money on the game he worked hard on for four years! Or he could at least lie about making a shitload of money and disinform everyone interested in chances for a sequel, or the state of the indie game market. He makes me sick!
Seriously now, I'm sorry to hear that, it's always a pity to hear about something original doing poorly when any ugly ass pixelated roguelike no. 529873 would probably break even easily. But I have to admit, I'm complicit- I have not bought the game yet, and probably won't for a while. The price is rather high, so between my backlog and my already extensive wishlist of other games I want to buy, this one will have to wait for a good sale. That's just how it works when there are these many games around.
Seriously now, I'm sorry to hear that, it's always a pity to hear about something original doing poorly when any ugly ass pixelated roguelike no. 529873 would probably break even easily. But I have to admit, I'm complicit- I have not bought the game yet, and probably won't for a while. The price is rather high, so between my backlog and my already extensive wishlist of other games I want to buy, this one will have to wait for a good sale. That's just how it works when there are these many games around.
Post edited April 03, 2018 by Breja
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Leroux
Major Blockhead
Registered: Apr 2010
From Germany
Posted April 03, 2018
I doubt it's the name, probably more to do with people seeing a game that seems mostly based on text and still images (with no particularly shiny graphics) for the price of 20 EUR. Not saying the price is unjustified (I never played the game and devs have to calculate their risks themselves), but it doesn't seem very competitive in the current oversaturated market. I'd wager not many people will spend that kind of money on something experimental and visually kind of unremarkable at first sight,* when they can get several more shiny indies and even AAA games with sparkly colorful graphics and explosions for the same price. Gamers just aren't art lovers, for the most part, the majority just wants to be entertained.
* Maybe it's just me, but with all the new games coming out, I hardly even read their descriptions anymore, I just take a quick look at their screenshots and decide by the looks of them whether this could be something that appeals to me. It's a very superficial way of making decisions, yeah, but that's the reason why this game didn't make it to my wishlist, and I could imagine others reacting the same.
* Maybe it's just me, but with all the new games coming out, I hardly even read their descriptions anymore, I just take a quick look at their screenshots and decide by the looks of them whether this could be something that appeals to me. It's a very superficial way of making decisions, yeah, but that's the reason why this game didn't make it to my wishlist, and I could imagine others reacting the same.
Post edited April 03, 2018 by Leroux
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§pec†re
Reeeeeeeeeee!!!
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom
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amok
FREEEEDOOOM!!!!
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom
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Oriza-Triznyák
garbage features like achievements.
Registered: Apr 2009
From Other
Posted April 03, 2018
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HereForTheBeer
Positive Patty
Registered: Oct 2009
From United States
Posted April 03, 2018
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In case you haven't had a chance to read the postmortem itself, and instead only the articles that took snippets from the larger document:
https://medium.com/@johnnemann/where-the-water-tastes-like-wine-postmortem-211a1f9d791a
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dnovraD
2023-08-14: Remember the Spaces!
Registered: Jul 2012
From United States
Posted April 03, 2018
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This isn't exactly a fair comparison, but since the game lives or dies on presentation and writing, it was a close field.
Hands of Fate also has a similar system in place, now that I think about it, but there's actual interactivity involved. If Hand of Fate is fairly priced however is very much YMMV.
I also don't see how the Factorio devs plan to justify their upcoming 30 dollar price as of release, but that's a topic for another thread.
Post edited April 03, 2018 by Darvond
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drmike
Why yes, I am a Major General
Registered: Jan 2012
From United States
Posted April 03, 2018
I realize that the topic of torrents is a little shady around here but....
The original pirated torrent of this game from CODEX has less than a dozen seeders on it currently. The updates have 3-4 each.
Maybe the issue is just interest in the title?
The original pirated torrent of this game from CODEX has less than a dozen seeders on it currently. The updates have 3-4 each.
Maybe the issue is just interest in the title?
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Asbeau
shot the food
Registered: Nov 2011
From United Kingdom
Posted April 03, 2018
Somebody posted a leak of the upcoming Humble Monthly unlocks and this is in it. Take that with many grains of salt, of course.
https://i.imgur.com/5UVigQ8.png
Edit: added link to pic
https://i.imgur.com/5UVigQ8.png
Edit: added link to pic
Post edited April 03, 2018 by Asbeau
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Leroux
Major Blockhead
Registered: Apr 2010
From Germany
Posted April 04, 2018
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https://i.imgur.com/5UVigQ8.png
Edit: added link to pic
Post edited April 04, 2018 by Leroux
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Fairfox
New User
Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted April 04, 2018
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joppo
New User
Registered: Dec 2011
From Brazil
Posted April 04, 2018
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§pec†re
Reeeeeeeeeee!!!
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted April 04, 2018
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edit - if you like post mortems, check out Gamasutra, many developers post them there also
* How did he manage to spend 140,000 on it ?
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amok
FREEEEDOOOM!!!!
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted April 04, 2018
Post edited April 04, 2018 by amok