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Posted April 11, 2021
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gogtrial34987: it appears that support currently only exists for Ubuntu itself.
Worse than that: from what I see they provide support only for old Ubuntu LTS (18.04, and 16.04 on some games).
Using the current LTS, Ubuntu 20.04, you are at a risk of being denied support by GOG.
Posted April 11, 2021
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Cavalary: Had heard of both, but saw that OpenSnitch is no longer under active development, and Douane has a highlighted warning right on the front page saying "unfortunately the project is suffering of a kernel freeze bug that can break your machine!"
oh, poo! well... nevermind then
Posted April 11, 2021
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Cavalary: Well, that's rotten. Was sure it was Ubuntu and Mint too, and it definitely was like that when they started out with Linux support, clearly specified.
Classic GOG "consistency". In any case mainstream Mint is an Ubuntu derivative, so it doesn't really matter - though it might cause confusion among those new to Linux.

I wonder if they removed it in reaction to some past discussions the Mint devs had about spinning off Mint directly from Debian (basically making LMDE mainstream)... but probably not.

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vv221: Using the current LTS, Ubuntu 20.04, you are at a risk of being denied support by GOG.
Linux support on GOG... yeah, that's definitely a thing you can rely on :).
Post edited April 11, 2021 by WinterSnowfall
Posted April 11, 2021
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timppu: I personally would still choose Linux Mint over Ubuntu, as I have some doubts over the motives of the Ubuntu creators (Canonical), as if they want to be the Microsoft of the Linux world.
My thoughts exactly, Canonical caused too much noise over the years.
While I do not dispute their contribution to making Linux more popular and accesible, there are also plenty of odd decisions made in the last decade or so. Won't name them here though.
IMO, there are much better choices out there. Mint is more than alright, although "customising" Firefox was not a nice move per se. At the same time, getting rid of Google search was. Fortunately, with a little tinkering, one can add whatever search engine they want.
Posted April 11, 2021
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temps: If a game has Linux compatibility, is the compatibility only for a certain version of Linux like Mint or Ubuntu or whatever? Or is it compatible with any version?
Modern Linux games are typically compatible with most x86 glibc based systems.

Non-x86 systems (like the Raspberry Pi) won't work unless there's a port of it (or it uses something like DOSBox). Non-glibc systems (like Alpine Linux) won't work unless glibc is somehow installed (like in a chroot).
Posted April 11, 2021
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Cavalary: Had heard of both, but saw that OpenSnitch is no longer under active development, and Douane has a highlighted warning right on the front page saying "unfortunately the project is suffering of a kernel freeze bug that can break your machine!"
Actually the OpenSnitch fork we linked to is active. See the recent commits just some days ago.

And the Douane one I think is indeed quite buggy and broken currently, not sure why the website I read recommended it (written in 2020)...

There's a bigger project worked on called simply LAF (Linux Application Firewall), but it's not ready yet in any way. Keep an eye on it though, if OpenSnitch doesn't work out.

[url=https://blog.apnic.net/2020/10/28/application-firewall-coming-to-linux-devices-near-you/#:~:text=The%20Linux%20Application%20Firewall%20(LAF,network%20access%20to%20specific%20domains]https://blog.apnic.net/2020/10/28/application-firewall-coming-to-linux-devices-near-you/#:~:text=The%20Linux%20Application%20Firewall%20(LAF,network%20access%20to%20specific%20domains[/url].
Posted April 11, 2021
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WinterSnowfall: Linux support on GOG... yeah, that's definitely a thing you can rely on :).
Official GOG support for Linux is as bad as the unofficial community support is great ;)
Posted April 11, 2021
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gogtrial34987: it appears that support currently only exists for Ubuntu itself.
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vv221: Worse than that: from what I see they provide support only for old Ubuntu LTS (18.04, and 16.04 on some games).
Using the current LTS, Ubuntu 20.04, you are at a risk of being denied support by GOG.
I have no personal experience with this, as I've never actually needed OS-related support yet, but a random sampling of Linux games I've looked at all specify things like "Ubuntu 16.04+", or the even more explicit "Ubuntu 18.04 or later", so I would certainly expect 20.04 to receive full support.
Post edited April 11, 2021 by gogtrial34987
Posted April 11, 2021
I have a doubt since I tried many years ago a bit of some kind o Linux. I do not remember a lot about it but a friend of mine offered me a CD with Linux inside. I remember that the curiosity was that it was a complete installation and it was functional without any important installation or registry etc... My friend said it was perfectly functional and all should work without many limitations.

Is it accurate or is my memory failing? There were something similar in the past? or even now? My friend wanted to prove that the Windows method of humongous complex installations and registry features were unnecessary for a perfectly functional OS in a computer.

greetings
Posted April 11, 2021
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gogtrial34987: I have no personal experience with this, as I've never actually needed OS-related support yet, but a random sampling of Linux games I've looked at all specify things like "Ubuntu 16.04+", or the even more explicit "Ubuntu 18.04 or later", so I would certainly expect 20.04 to receive full support.
Can you share some examples?

I only found entries like Linux (Ubuntu 16.04, Ubuntu 18.04) or Linux (Ubuntu 18.04). No "+" nor "or later" in the "Game details" side panel.

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Gudadantza: My friend wanted to prove that the Windows method of humongous complex installations and registry features were unnecessary for a perfectly functional OS in a computer.
Your friend is right ;)

By the way, the ritual annual disk formatting or OS re-installation is a specificity of Windows too. A Linux distribution is installed once on a computer, and then kept up-to-date without ever requiring a re-installation.
Post edited April 11, 2021 by vv221
Posted April 11, 2021
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Gudadantza:
You can download a plethora of Linux Distros and boot from CD or USB and get the system running, without even touch your Windows install. Although, running from USB or CD wont save any changes you make. Try it, it's actually very easy and fun.


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vv221: By the way, the ritual annual disk formatting or OS re-installation is a specificity of Windows too. A Linux distribution is installed once on a computer, and then kept up-to-date without ever requiring a re-installation.
I've breaked Linux installs before, to the point of being easier to re-install than to solve the problem (it's actually me being lazy).
However, it's a pain in the knee to solve any Windows related problem (beyond the basics) as the 100 first google/duckduckgo results are pretty much useless results, usually copy/pasted articles of each other. I guess I must refine my search term ability...
Post edited April 11, 2021 by Dark_art_
Posted April 11, 2021
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gogtrial34987: I have no personal experience with this, as I've never actually needed OS-related support yet, but a random sampling of Linux games I've looked at all specify things like "Ubuntu 16.04+", or the even more explicit "Ubuntu 18.04 or later", so I would certainly expect 20.04 to receive full support.
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vv221: Can you share some examples?

I only found entries like Linux (Ubuntu 16.04, Ubuntu 18.04) or Linux (Ubuntu 18.04). No "+" nor "or later" in the "Game details" side panel.
Where I've seen it, it's under System Requirements, not in the side panel:
Sunless Skies: Ubuntu 14.04, 16.04 or later
Parkitect: Ubuntu 16.04+
Transport Fever 2: Ubuntu 18.04 or later
Wasteland 3: Ubuntu 18.04+
Posted April 11, 2021
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vv221: By the way, the ritual annual disk formatting or OS re-installation is a specificity of Windows too.
I see, so this is a Windows 98 vs Linux topic...
Posted April 11, 2021
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vv221: By the way, the ritual annual disk formatting or OS re-installation is a specificity of Windows too. A Linux distribution is installed once on a computer, and then kept up-to-date without ever requiring a re-installation.
Not quite sure about that. Sometimes release upgrades to a newer release seem to be quite problematic (just like in Windows), and I considered doing a release upgrade for my Linux Mint 19.3 (to upgrade it to 20/20.1), but the whole process seemed quite complicated, more complicated than what I've seen e.g. in Ubuntu and the process itself warned about the perils of the release upgrade, and suggested doing a clean installation instead.

Then again, on another PC where I had Mint 20, at least upgrading to 20.1 was quite painless and I didn't see any problems, but then the main version is still the same there.

At work I've had to (try to) upgrade e.g. a few Ubuntu 16 => 18 => 20, and a couple of servers from Oracle Linux 6 to 7. Sometimes the release upgrade mostly worked (the customer might have had to reinstall some software afterwards and tinker something), but at least one Ubuntu and one Oracle Linux release upgrade failed so miserably that we decided to create completely new machines with the newer Linuxes.

Then there are those Linux distros with rolling releases, but some here have said that they can fail too, at least if there has been a long time since the previous update.

Whatever, I think I tend to reinstall Linux if I want to go to a newer major release, of course making a backup of my main home directory. That's what I've always done with Windows too if there has been a new release (like moving from XP to 7 to 10), but now I am unsure if Windows 10 actually is a kind of rolling release, and it will be called Windows 10 also 10 years from now. So if you clean-install a Windows 10 from 2015, can you successfully update it to current and future versions without much of an issue?
Posted April 11, 2021
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timppu: So if you clean-install a Windows 10 from 2015, can you successfully update it to current and future versions without much of an issue?
There's always somebody somewhere with an issue (perfect software doesn't exist), but yes.
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