Posted April 11, 2021
Timboli: For starters, he doesn't say Linux might be better or that he thinks it is personally. He claims definitively that it is without any facts to back that up.
That's not even a little bit of an agenda. I'm not sure you know what the word means. Does he have some ulterior nefarious motive for advertising Linux as the best OS? Like he's trying to get people to migrate and then donate to his Patreon for some utility on github? For example. Stating something like that A is better than B in an argument is not an indication of an 'agenda'. Try again.
And I'm sure if you asked or wanted to actually continue the discussion instead of attacking him and insulting him, you might find out about why is Linux better than Windows, i.e. his 'facts'. He already mentioned some.
I think you're confused.
If something is subjectively determined and influenced by eg. tastes or preferences or factors that are individual and personal, then you can't in the same vein claim definitively that 'facts will definitively show that A is better than B for all/the majority'. It's a contradiction, one of many used in your argumentation.
I think you got your signals mixed up there, buddy, and now that you're incredibly defensive you can't admit to it. That's ok, this is after all an internet discussion between anonymous strangers trying to score points and grow their e-peen. Really important stuff. /s
Actually, it's more like you 'call' an agenda everywhere you think you see it, for no reason.
There were plenty in our previous discussion, if you want me to dig them up, I can. But in this discussion alone so far, you've managed already a few. You've called someone in a video gaming forum a 'close-minded zealot blinded by an agenda' and implied he is arguing in bad faith. About an operating system discussion. Might wanna tone it down a notch there mate.
"you are quite clearly a Linux zealot, no doubt in my mind about that at all.
Luckily, when replying to you, I was really replying for the sake of others who are a bit more open-minded and not blinded by a Linux agenda like you are."
That is a personal attack with no place in a discussion, just because you felt like saying it as if you couldn't argue properly otherwise. If anything, it inhibits discussion and is just plain rude, but whatever floats your boat dude, if you think it makes your case stronger. *Spoiler alert* it doesn't.
Timboli: If he isn't a Zealot, then what is he?
He qualifies every which way I look at it.
What extra would he need to be, to be a Zealot?
What makes him qualify as a zealot? You're the one making the claim. Is he religiously fanatical? Is he spreading the evangelical message that Linux is better, trying to convince people pointing to a book of dogmatic beliefs that definitively allegedly prove his case? He qualifies every which way I look at it.
What extra would he need to be, to be a Zealot?
Or has he become convinced that Linux is better than Windows through years of close interaction with both products, and he knows what he's talking about? I.e. he has all the facts with him and has decided on one side? How does that make him a fanatical zealot?
Call him a realist if you have to call him something. And oh look! It's not a slur.
It's worth noting vv221 can easily defend himself and I have no vested interest in defending a random forum goer. Other than disliking the way you argue and attack others yet again for differing opinions or argumentation, Timboli.
Timboli: I don't claim that Linux isn't better. I leave it up to what is right for the individual.
I'm open, he isn't
If only we had the ability to quote people to prove what they're saying is rubbish...oh wait! I'm open, he isn't
Here is you claiming that facts show Linux is worse for the majority:
"I wish Linux was better than Windows, I honestly do ... and for some people it is ... however, not the majority, as the facts will show you."
Which facts are those? Nobody knows. Almost as if you 'qualified' to being a zealot according to your own (dubious) criteria.
Timboli: Calling someone a zealot is not the same as calling them an idiot or a fool ... doing so would be using a slur.
At worst I am saying his enthusiasm and bias for Linux is misleading and blinding him to other factors.
Some happily admit to being a zealot.
Ah yes, clearly you didn't intend it as an insult. After all, some choose to be zealots, so it can't be a wholly negative thing. Wow dude. Who buys this drivel? This is such feeble argumentation I'm surprised you even said it. THen again, par on course for you Timboli. At worst I am saying his enthusiasm and bias for Linux is misleading and blinding him to other factors.
Some happily admit to being a zealot.
You should take a step back and realise how you come across in a sensible discussion about the pros and cons of operating systems in a vidya gaming forum. It's not pretty, due to your rampant accusations of an imaginary 'agenda' and being a close-minded zealot when stating A is better than B due to facts that people can happily go into.
But who wants to talk to you now??