It seems that you're using an outdated browser. Some things may not work as they should (or don't work at all).
We suggest you upgrade newer and better browser like: Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer or Opera

×
No. What you are seeing is just supply and demand plus the economy at work...
I would say so. But it's effecting cinema and music considerably more. People don't see value in these things now because they can get them so cheap or completely free with ease.
I'd disagree. Many people want things conveniently and for some arbitrarily "fair" price. Digital distribution has only increased the amount on offer (not always for the best) and made it easier at the same time. I guarantee you that there are many people who have purchased more than they ever would, or could, have done thanks to digital distribution.

Personally, I abhor DRM practices that punish legitimate payers, so I relish GOG's approach.
avatar
darthspudius: I would say so. But it's effecting cinema and music considerably more. People don't see value in these things now because they can get them so cheap or completely free with ease.
Coming from filmmaking, I have seen many careers evaporate due to this devaluation and the growing appetite around new digital outlets for low prices. As filmmakers, we were sold on the idea that more outlets would in turn mean more work and more money. It's actually meant "slave wages" with insane hours on whatever you can get. People who made more than enough for decades to have families and houses are suddenly unable to find anything... and trying to change careers late in life with rampant ageism. It's really terrible to watch.
Post edited June 14, 2019 by kai2
this is whats devaluing games

1. game companys being ran by people who only care aobut money and dont understand games

2. lootboxes

3. paywall and P2W crap

4. mobile games cos the devs of mobile games dnt respect the players so they jsut fill there games with cash grabby garbage

5. DRM

6. same games being released on a yearly basis ( COD,FIFA,assasins creed etc)

tbh id rather have a digital copy of world of warcraft than have like 4 discs which can be s cratched or broken but all of the above stands, being digital alone doesnt ruin a game but i think we need to look at the bigger picture which i painted above

nintendo is a perfect example of a game company doing things right. the boss of nintendo cut his pay by 50% cos of the 3DS stuff and he did this again in 2014. where as companys like EA dnt give 2 shits who they fuck over, employees are treated like crap, game ip's are destroyed or turned into gambling simulators with lootboxes and microtransactions.

when did EA make a good game that didnt have any loot boxes or microtransactions in
Post edited June 14, 2019 by moobot83
It's not that it devalue the games , is that ita makes them MUCH easier to distribute and somehow the price is the same and sometimes even higher because developers are greedy and need more money because now they can release WAY more games that are lower in quality because they don't have to make discs and all that , pluse they can patch the game, more than half that games to come out lately aren't worth 30$ when released...
avatar
nivik3: It's not that it devalue the games , is that ita makes them MUCH easier to distribute and somehow the price is the same and sometimes even higher because developers are greedy and need more money because now they can release WAY more games that are lower in quality because they don't have to make discs and all that , pluse they can patch the game, more than half that games to come out lately aren't worth 30$ when released...
The price is the same... And yet everything else in the world is more pricey dollar to dollar.

That means games are cheaper than they were in the past.
https://earthboundcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Consumers-Distributing-Ultimate-1996-Video-Catalogue.jpg

People who here complain digital distribution not making games cheaper don't realize

They did by limiting price increase resulted by inflation.

Allowed all those sales to happen when you have a discounted game at 90 percent.

How many games did you buy at full price, how many games you got for few bucks or even for free..

Digital distribution made gaming so much cheaper than it was in the past, allowed so many games to be available each day.

So quiet opposite. Digital distribution made my hobby much more valuable than it was when I had to pay 50 to 70 usd for new game on cds in 1996
In my opinion, yes. But to what extent I can't say. I can only look at my own behavior.

I have so many games I'll never play them all in my lifetime. When they're so easily acquired it almost becomes like the case of the dog in Rome torn between bones; it becomes harder to appreciate them for what they are when there's always something "cooler" to discover. As my libraries expand I spend more time trying to decide what to play rather than playing.

I also tend to think "I'm not paying X amount for this game, even though I want it. I'm waiting for a sale." That's partly because I tend to think games are generally over-priced anyway, but also because thanks to digital distribution you know that a sale at some point is practically a given.
avatar
kai2: I have definite thoughts on this, but would like to hear other viewpoints.
At first I was not sure if that was a trick question but that some people are actually saying that is is not devaluing... is entertaining on a certain level.
avatar
nivik3: It's not that it devalue the games , is that ita makes them MUCH easier to distribute and somehow the price is the same and sometimes even higher because developers are greedy and need more money because now they can release WAY more games that are lower in quality because they don't have to make discs and all that , pluse they can patch the game, more than half that games to come out lately aren't worth 30$ when released...
avatar
lukaszthegreat: The price is the same... And yet everything else in the world is more pricey dollar to dollar.

That means games are cheaper than they were in the past.
https://earthboundcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Consumers-Distributing-Ultimate-1996-Video-Catalogue.jpg

People who here complain digital distribution not making games cheaper don't realize

They did by limiting price increase resulted by inflation.

Allowed all those sales to happen when you have a discounted game at 90 percent.

How many games did you buy at full price, how many games you got for few bucks or even for free..

Digital distribution made gaming so much cheaper than it was in the past, allowed so many games to be available each day.

So quiet opposite. Digital distribution made my hobby much more valuable than it was when I had to pay 50 to 70 usd for new game on cds in 1996
Games that you buy for 90% off or get for free are most of the time either old or trash...
The intent of this thread wasn't to discourage game collecting, streaming, or even the purchasing of digital games -- in fact I'm a collector and a "bargain hunter" -- but over many years of gaming, I've seen changes in how gamers relate to their games and this change has seemed especially dramatic after the advent of digital delivery (even further after extreme discounts). Seeing this change alongside the "Walmart effect" of bargain hunting (where the societal impact of "bargains" can be quite severe), it just gets me to thinking about the possible effects of a digital world...

Contrary to what some might think, I'm not a dinosaur and certainly see the benefits of choice and convenience, but as with most things in life, good comes with bad... and even in a past time as "innocuous" as gaming, I think it's important to be mindful of our actions and how they might be impacting this hobby we love.
avatar
lukaszthegreat: The price is the same... And yet everything else in the world is more pricey dollar to dollar.

That means games are cheaper than they were in the past.
https://earthboundcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Consumers-Distributing-Ultimate-1996-Video-Catalogue.jpg
People who here complain digital distribution not making games cheaper don't realize
They did by limiting price increase resulted by inflation.
Allowed all those sales to happen when you have a discounted game at 90 percent.
How many games did you buy at full price, how many games you got for few bucks or even for free..
Digital distribution made gaming so much cheaper than it was in the past, allowed so many games to be available each day.
So quiet opposite. Digital distribution made my hobby much more valuable than it was when I had to pay 50 to 70 usd for new game on cds in 1996
avatar
nivik3: Games that you buy for 90% off or get for free are most of the time either old or trash...
Crap games helped devalue them. The prices might be frozen for a lot of games but then again so has the gameplay.
Post edited June 15, 2019 by Spectre
avatar
nivik3: Games that you buy for 90% off or get for free are most of the time either old or trash...
avatar
Spectre: Crap games helped devalue them. The prices might be frozen for a lot of games but then again so has the gameplay.
But who wants to play a broken, buggy, uninished , poorly made, boring, ugly game?
The market is flooding with this type of games and it's thanks to digiatlisation of video games, the sad part is how AAA games let themselves go down to this level and still be proud of the games they're producing
avatar
Spectre: Crap games helped devalue them. The prices might be frozen for a lot of games but then again so has the gameplay.
avatar
nivik3: But who wants to play a broken, buggy, uninished , poorly made, boring, ugly game?
but I love Arcanum...!!!
avatar
lukaszthegreat: The price is the same... And yet everything else in the world is more pricey dollar to dollar.

That means games are cheaper than they were in the past.
https://earthboundcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Consumers-Distributing-Ultimate-1996-Video-Catalogue.jpg

People who here complain digital distribution not making games cheaper don't realize

They did by limiting price increase resulted by inflation.

Allowed all those sales to happen when you have a discounted game at 90 percent.

How many games did you buy at full price, how many games you got for few bucks or even for free..

Digital distribution made gaming so much cheaper than it was in the past, allowed so many games to be available each day.

So quiet opposite. Digital distribution made my hobby much more valuable than it was when I had to pay 50 to 70 usd for new game on cds in 1996
avatar
nivik3: Games that you buy for 90% off or get for free are most of the time either old or trash...
sure they might be old but still great:

Shadowrun Returns
Witcher
Sunless Sky
Subanuatica
and others

where for free

then you get great modern games 40% off. You would never get games as cheap as you get them now when it was in retail.

no.
pc gaming is now way more valuable than it ever was.