_ChaosFox_: The problem is that people watch too many movies and seek large-scale conspiracies where there literally are none. Without the institutions I quoted, we wouldn't have had the Watergate Affair, we wouldn't have had the revelations regarding the Catholic Church's cover-up of child abuse in the priesthood, we wouldn't have had the investigations against FIFA.

But investigative reporting is seldom international or presidential in scope. In fact, most lay people would probably deem most reporting uninteresting. Most cases of corruption and negligence are smaller in scope. The BBC, for instance, has been instrumental in uncovering cases of abuse at nursing homes in the UK. The New York Times has been responsible for countless investigations into FDA corruption. They don't lend themselves to sensational revelations.

Also, there's a lot of investigative reporting going on that you're not aware of. Investigative reporting is not an easy thing to do - even if there is news, it's often hard to get people to go on record and provide evidence. Most of it ends up dead-ending because going public without evidence can be tantamount to libel. It's also dangerous - even local journalists here in my city in Germany have been threatened by left-wing and right-wing extremists for investigating far-left and far-right violence and crime.

And let's not forget that law enforcement is a lot more effective than it was 50 years ago. At least in the West, most corruption is unearthed at law enforcement level before reporters even have a chance to get wind of it, and all they're left to do is report on the investigation instead of performing it (like the recent egg scandal here in Europe).

People flock to charlatans like Rupert Murdoch and Alex Jones and allow them to proliferate because people want outrage, moral panic and sensationalism - it makes them feel important and self-righteous. The world, sadly, is a lot more boring than that.

te_lanus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBuoexbVEFE

an interesting video

richlind33: Here's a write-up by Haaretz, which I trust you'll find acceptable.

_ChaosFox_: I fail to see how this is relevant to the debate at hand. This is an op-ed by a highly politicised newspaper, basically Israel's version of The Guardian. It offers nothing new, save the fact that a significant amount of Bush's inner political circle was indeed Jewish, a fact that can be ascertained with a little time and patience using Google. The fact that Bush's war counsel was strongly linked to Netanyahu's political circles is not a huge revelation. It was on a par with the astonishing* revelation that, indeed, there were no WMDs in Iraq.

* Said with a healthy dose of irony.

Anyway, lest we get sidetracked to party politics, back to the topic at hand. The point here is that YongYea is not a "trusted source" as it were. He has no reputation to speak of. OK, he quotes and shows his sources, and that's admirable by social media standards, but his sources are not watertight. He acknowledges the flaws in his sourcing, and that too is admirable - in fact, that puts him well above 99% of the "journalists" on social media these days. But the accusation here is not dishonesty, rather the lack of any in-depth research that we ourselves cannot perform. His video is essentially a lead, the sort of stuff that, in its own right, a reputable news outlet would not publish, because it has little substance. It needs to be followed up on.

If I were YongYea, I would have taken it to a more connected outlet like Eurogamer or RPS and have them do the investigative legwork. As it stands, the claim is now public, and CDPR have a chance to fend off any investigation attempts.

tremere110: Are they the same employees that started this rumor almost exactly two years ago? Yeah, I'm taking it with a grain of salt - especially with the timing.

[EDIT] Was there a rumor last year too? I feel like I might have missed one.

Epitaph666: ...
I understand that long crunch times are tiring, but what the fuck do you expect a company to do if they want to release a game that is as bug-free as it can get?
WTF?

_ChaosFox_: ...

And that's the Circle of Life for you.

_ChaosFox_: That's the thing: we've basically imported the expression "working for peanuts" into German as "für Peanuts arbeiten", and then people have carried the word "peanuts" over to anything that is unimportant or unimpressive. Something can be "Peanuts" in German if it was really easy and no real achievement.

te_lanus: snip

BreOl72: Ok, I don't know, how old you are...but the point in time, when "Peanuts" found its usage in German, can be pinned exactly.

Have you ever heard of the "Schneider-Affäre"?

Painted_Doll: Thanks . Blocked this channel .

qwixter: Hard to believe that more ex-employees don't leave positive feedback.