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This is my favourite topic
Posted April 25, 2018
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If I had any idea how to go about getting games on it, I would absolutely start my own game store.

Maybe one day.
Posted April 26, 2018
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mk47at: Edit2: Access to the pdf file seems to be dependant on third-party javascript garbage.
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Lukaszmik: Isn't it fun how much GOG values your privacy?

Their support pages (outsourced to Zen Desk, which itself is already operating under US jurisdiction, not EU, as far as I can tell) is rife with both Amazon and Google's data-mining scripts.
the question is this new or has it been here for past 10 yeas? becuase if this has been here 10 years and now people are talkinga bout it, it means no one read the Privacy Policy
https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/212632109-Privacy-Policy (US link)

someone posted this up above "I've now learned you've begun to implement user tracking" i'm pretty sure they where always tracking you since all the data gets sent to there server...

but they pretty much had change there policy because of General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) which i feel like they been using our data and such before that which means they had to comply now, so people who are saying data tracking and stuff now they have been doing that before this new GDPR rule.

but i don't have the old policy so i can't tell what was actually private if it was at all or this site was just a drm-free site to start with and people just though they kept your privacy safe this whole time without reading the Privacy and Cookie Policies.
Posted April 26, 2018
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Lukaszmik: Isn't it fun how much GOG values your privacy?

Their support pages (outsourced to Zen Desk, which itself is already operating under US jurisdiction, not EU, as far as I can tell) is rife with both Amazon and Google's data-mining scripts.
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KnightW0lf: the question is this new or has it been here for past 10 yeas? becuase if this has been here 10 years and now people are talkinga bout it, it means no one read the Privacy Policy
https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/212632109-Privacy-Policy (US link)

someone posted this up above "I've now learned you've begun to implement user tracking" i'm pretty sure they where always tracking you since all the data gets sent to there server...

but they pretty much had change there policy because of General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) which i feel like they been using our data and such before that which means they had to comply now, so people who are saying data tracking and stuff now they have been doing that before this new GDPR rule.

but i don't have the old policy so i can't tell what was actually private if it was at all or this site was just a drm-free site to start with and people just though they kept your privacy safe this whole time without reading the Privacy and Cookie Policies.
Well, now I know what this GDPR is that everyone is talking about, so thank you for that.
Posted April 26, 2018
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vidsgame: Well, now I know what this GDPR is that everyone is talking about, so thank you for that.
Even in the U.S. it's been a point of discussion for a year or more in areas that are data-driven and have European clients: banks, higher education institutions, etc.

But yeah, it's not quite as up-front over here if you aren't in those fields.
Posted April 26, 2018
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vidsgame: Well, now I know what this GDPR is that everyone is talking about, so thank you for that.
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bler144: Even in the U.S. it's been a point of discussion for a year or more in areas that are data-driven and have European clients: banks, higher education institutions, etc.

But yeah, it's not quite as up-front over here if you aren't in those fields.
True that. I just thought that the acronym "GDPR" had something to do with CD Projeckt specifically but it now I just found out it stands for a type of regulation rather than an acronym for the corporation (or _insert proper noun here_ ) and in addition he also explains what the regulation is, which is a bonus.
Posted April 26, 2018
Joining to this a bit late , here is the deal i have already a public profile on steam , since i own a lot of games there and are friends with a ton of people , i have always kept gog as the offline drm free classics games place to escape from online only just in case.


I have looked at the profile and found the following problems

a) games played list is false , i have never used gog galaxy and that list is false since i have not played those games listed there

b) very poor implementation of private profile it still shows information , have look at how private profiles should look aka nothing but the username should be shown
https://steamcommunity.com/id/BhutJolokia

C) would also like to opt out of the whole profile thing if possible keep to the galaxy users and not everyone.
Posted April 26, 2018
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liquidsnakehpks: I have looked at the profile and found the following problems
I second every one of them. I've filed a complaint to the GOG support in which I demand my profile to be disabled, if only to contribute to a measurable spike in their support statistics since they introduced this bug.
Posted April 26, 2018
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drmike: It's pretty sad when you have to quote back a part of a company's own legal policies to get anyone to pay attention to an issue.
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mk47at: I've just received an email that they've changed their privacy policy.
grml would it have been so hard for GOG to list exactly what has changed ? instead of this not very helpful phrasing: "we have added some wording ..."



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KnightW0lf: but i don't have the old policy so i can't tell what was actually private if it was at all or this site was just a drm-free site to start with and people just though they kept your privacy safe this whole time without reading the Privacy and Cookie Policies.
the link you posted above is the old policy
at the bottom of the site there is a link to the new version (pdf)
New version effective from 25.5.2018
Post edited April 26, 2018 by immi101
Posted April 26, 2018
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HypersomniacLive: A tad belated, but I just had to thank you for not only listening to our feedback, but taking it to heart and putting it to good use. Also, for answering our questions and providing the requested clarifications in detail. All well ahead of launching these new social features.
The way you communicated and implemented these truly demonstrates it.
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joppo: Congrats on becoming famous: https://www.cnet.com/news/gog-debuts-profiles-feature-users-flip-out/

I wish it was with a comment over a more pleasant issue, tho.
That should get him an invite to Poland. ;p
Posted April 26, 2018
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Thank you all for the information on the current situation.

I dont like the EULA. I dont like the fucking third party collecting information about every piss i take. I simply dont like where GOG is going with all this, and dont want to support GOG anymore!

Why we need Facebook here ? What for ? I just want to buy games and play games. I dont need the whole world to know about it. Not that anyone care about a new freaking achievement i got or how many hours i played a certain game.

Why i dont have control over MY own fucking profile ? I was happy about the profile, until i realized that i cant even configure it the way i want. My profile should be for me, not for the whole world.

All in all, what gives GOG the fucking right to make decisions for me ? WTF is this ?


I just had to share this, cause i feel like this DRM-free idea dont really make sense at all with all this changes. But there's an alternative to all this. The real DRM-free games, and the only way left, it's piracy. Thank you GOG for making me realize that.
Posted April 26, 2018
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KnightW0lf: the question is this new or has it been here for past 10 yeas? becuase if this has been here 10 years and now people are talkinga bout it, it means no one read the Privacy Policy
https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/212632109-Privacy-Policy (US link)
Not "past 10 years," but a few. Don't remember when the now-old Privacy Policy was introduced exactly, but I do remember the arguments about how ridiculously broad its implementation was. Of course back then people were even more likely to defend GOG, so... here we are.

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KnightW0lf: but i don't have the old policy so i can't tell what was actually private if it was at all or this site was just a drm-free site to start with and people just though they kept your privacy safe this whole time without reading the Privacy and Cookie Policies.
The original policy of GOG had basic (and still rather wide) clauses. This got modified around the time Galaxy was coming out (when GOG added a lot more "we can do this" clauses related to data collection).

Hell, I was arguing back then that the intended phrasing was doing nothing to legally prevent GOG from getting into the data-mining racket. My long-learned lesson when dealing with any corporate entity is - if it's not written down solid in the contract, any assurance is worth diddly.

Yet here we are, mostly courtesy of the "if you have nothing to hide" and "GOG can do nothing wrong" crowd.

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falloutttt: All in all, what gives GOG the fucking right to make decisions for me ? WTF is this ?
The brand new world, where clueless and naive masses are easily swayed to allow corporations enjoyment of profits from data-mining, without paying the slightest attention to the fact that Cambridge Analytica had already proven beyond any question that what may appear the least indifferent data point still will be used against you.
Post edited April 26, 2018 by Lukaszmik
Posted April 27, 2018
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KnightW0lf: the question is this new or has it been here for past 10 yeas? becuase if this has been here 10 years and now people are talkinga bout it, it means no one read the Privacy Policy
https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/212632109-Privacy-Policy (US link)
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Lukaszmik: Not "past 10 years," but a few. Don't remember when the now-old Privacy Policy was introduced exactly, but I do remember the arguments about how ridiculously broad its implementation was. Of course back then people were even more likely to defend GOG, so... here we are.

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KnightW0lf: but i don't have the old policy so i can't tell what was actually private if it was at all or this site was just a drm-free site to start with and people just though they kept your privacy safe this whole time without reading the Privacy and Cookie Policies.
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Lukaszmik: The original policy of GOG had basic (and still rather wide) clauses. This got modified around the time Galaxy was coming out (when GOG added a lot more "we can do this" clauses related to data collection).

Hell, I was arguing back then that the intended phrasing was doing nothing to legally prevent GOG from getting into the data-mining racket. My long-learned lesson when dealing with any corporate entity is - if it's not written down solid in the contract, any assurance is worth diddly.

Yet here we are, mostly courtesy of the "if you have nothing to hide" and "GOG can do nothing wrong" crowd.

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falloutttt: All in all, what gives GOG the fucking right to make decisions for me ? WTF is this ?
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Lukaszmik: The brand new world, where clueless and naive masses are easily swayed to allow corporations enjoyment of profits from data-mining, without paying the slightest attention to the fact that Cambridge Analytica had already proven beyond any question that what may appear the least indifferent data point still will be used against you.
I honestly had trust in GOG. I now feel like being back-stubbed by someone I love. :(
Posted April 27, 2018
I have a question,

If i only use Galaxy(once a week or so) to update my games, will they still be able to data-mine ? Cause i dont want to feed those corporations. Or is better to uninstall Galaxy and be done with it ?

Sorry for my English. :/
Posted April 27, 2018
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Lukaszmik: Not "past 10 years," but a few. Don't remember when the now-old Privacy Policy was introduced exactly, but I do remember the arguments about how ridiculously broad its implementation was. Of course back then people were even more likely to defend GOG, so... here we are.

The original policy of GOG had basic (and still rather wide) clauses. This got modified around the time Galaxy was coming out (when GOG added a lot more "we can do this" clauses related to data collection).

Hell, I was arguing back then that the intended phrasing was doing nothing to legally prevent GOG from getting into the data-mining racket. My long-learned lesson when dealing with any corporate entity is - if it's not written down solid in the contract, any assurance is worth diddly.

Yet here we are, mostly courtesy of the "if you have nothing to hide" and "GOG can do nothing wrong" crowd.

The brand new world, where clueless and naive masses are easily swayed to allow corporations enjoyment of profits from data-mining, without paying the slightest attention to the fact that Cambridge Analytica had already proven beyond any question that what may appear the least indifferent data point still will be used against you.
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falloutttt: I honestly had trust in GOG. I now feel like being back-stubbed by someone I love. :(
it's not backstabbing if they didn't say or make rules they where for or against privacy, if they said they where for and then turned around and then went against then yes they backstabbed you, so far since the rules are so broad back then, i feel like gog never really addressed anything heck zeogold told me the time there was no moderators for the forums and also gog didn't actually care x10 at that time.

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falloutttt: I have a question,

If i only use Galaxy(once a week or so) to update my games, will they still be able to data-mine ? Cause i dont want to feed those corporations. Or is better to uninstall Galaxy and be done with it ?

Sorry for my English. :/
well if you didn't use Galaxy the game only track time when you use Galaxy so there is no track of time, same as achievements since your just running the game
they can already data-mine you though when you use your credit card, since that has a load of info and as well games you buy.


thanks Lukaszmik for the info
Posted April 27, 2018
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falloutttt: I honestly had trust in GOG. I now feel like being back-stubbed by someone I love. :(
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KnightW0lf: it's not backstabbing if they didn't say or make rules they where for or against privacy, if they said they where for and then turned around and then went against then yes they backstabbed you, so far since the rules are so broad back then, i feel like gog never really addressed anything heck zeogold told me the time there was no moderators for the forums and also gog didn't actually care x10 at that time.
Actually, they have said:
for
privacy
Post edited April 27, 2018 by xyem
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