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General discussionIntroducing GOG.com DRM-Free Movies(632 posts)(632 posts)
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Posted August 27, 2014
Cause there's no business like show-business!

Our DRM-Free approach to digital distribution has been the foundation of GOG.com since day one and we're convinced it is now firmly rooted in the gaming industry landscape. More and more users start to expect and demand the digital content they paid for to be free from any kind of restrictive mechanisms that limit access to their collections and get in the way of enjoyment. We think this is a good time to take the next step in our quest to make digital entertainment better for everyone. Today we set out to spread our DRM-Free ideas across the movie industry! That's right: GOG.com now offers DRM-Free movies.

Our goal is to offer you cinema classics as well as some all-time favorite TV series with no DRM whatsoever, for you to download and keep on your hard drive or stream online whenever you feel like it. We talked to most of the big players in the movie industry and we often got a similar answer: "We love your ideas, but … we do not want to be the first ones. We will gladly follow, but until somebody else does it first, we do not want to take the risk". DRM-Free distribution is not a concept their lawyers would accept without hesitation. We kind of felt that would be the case and that it's gonna take patience and time to do it, to do it, to do it right. That's quite a journey ahead of us, but every gamer knows very well that great adventures start with one small step. So why not start with something that feels very familiar? We offer you a number of gaming and internet culture documentaries - all of them DRM-Free, very reasonably priced, and presenting some fascinating insight into topics close to a gamer's heart. Now, what do we have in store for you?

- There's a whole new Movie Catalog for you to browse!
- All the movies we sell are priced at $5.99 (that's a launch promo price for a few of them), and we aim to have that as the main price point for most of our future releases
- Two of the movies - The Art of Playing and TPB AFK: The Pirate Bay Away From Keyboard are available for FREE, so that you can test our new movie distribution features
- Most of our movies are in Full HD 1080p quality, some in 720p. With those of you with limited bandwidth or download quota in mind, we also supply much lighter 576p versions.
- Apart from downloading your movies you have the option to watch them streaming online, right here on GOG.com
- GOG.com is famous for its bonus goodies - each movie will come with as many of them as we can muster
- You can expect subsequent movie releases each week

That's it. GOG.com Movies is a go, time to get some popcorn!
Posted August 30, 2014
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Miljac: I would really like to see some Croatian classics:
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/movies/the_elmchanted_forest
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/movies/the_magicians_hat
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/movies/lapitch_the_little_shoemaker

And this excellent TV series:
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/movies/red_dwarf
I think there could be plenty of European film companies with catalogs that might make a good start for GOG's catalog. Might be worth getting in touch with some of them. ;)

Personally, I would also like to see some of those 'partizanski' films and other Yugoslavia-era films like Seljacka Buna 1573, Partizanska Eskadrila, Bitka na Neretvi, and so on. And that impossible to find film by Vatroslav Mimica loosely based on the Battle of Siget, "Suleiman the Conqueror".
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055461/
Post edited August 30, 2014 by SCPM
Posted August 30, 2014
I still think that the most likely additions will be indie productions from internet creators of nowadays. Old films and series might be a problem from the legal point of view, and most recent ones are out of the question for the time being, as said by GOG representatives themselves.

Also CD Projekt could do a compilation of documentaries about the making of the Witcher games.
Posted August 30, 2014
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SCPM: I think there could be plenty of European film companies with catalogs that might make a good start for GOG's catalog. Might be worth getting in touch with some of them. ;)
I sent email couple of hour ago to film making studio responsible for titles I mentioned with information what gog is and how to contact them.

I really hope they will do something about it :D

Movies you mentioned would also be nice addition.
Post edited August 30, 2014 by Miljac
Posted August 30, 2014
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Miljac: I would really like to see some Croatian classics:
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/movies/the_elmchanted_forest
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/movies/the_magicians_hat
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/movies/lapitch_the_little_shoemaker

And this excellent TV series:
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/movies/red_dwarf
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SCPM: I think there could be plenty of European film companies with catalogs that might make a good start for GOG's catalog. Might be worth getting in touch with some of them. ;)

Personally, I would also like to see some of those 'partizanski' films and other Yugoslavia-era films like Seljacka Buna 1573, Partizanska Eskadrila, Bitka na Neretvi, and so on. And that impossible to find film by Vatroslav Mimica loosely based on the Battle of Siget, "Suleiman the Conqueror".
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055461/
Battle of Neretva would be welcome too! (I like these 'partizanski' fllms)
Posted August 30, 2014
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Miljac: Yay! I thought I am going to be the only one :D but now they have 3 votes, that's great!

I also remembered this:
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/movies/only_fools_and_horses
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/movies/fringe
Good choices - Im just sad they canceled Fringe a year ago but those five seasons are very good and need to come here.
Posted August 30, 2014
Movies on gog.com, hmmm.... Personally I don't need them. But it seems not a bad draw. I'm undecided if I like that or not. Will see how that's developing.
Posted August 30, 2014
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shmerl: A small update: "The Internet's Own Boy" is actually under Creative Commons. So GOG can add it at any time.
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Hanabata: Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International
Not a problem. Adding a free film is non commercial.
Posted August 30, 2014
I was genuinely confused just now.

Looking at the front page...

Minecraft: The Story of Mojang Deluxe Edition...

When the hell did Minecraft come to GOG?...


Clicks on link...


oohhhhhh, it's a movie about Minecraft...
Posted August 31, 2014
I streamed the 2 free films in 1080p & other than the subtitles falling off sync during The Art Of Playing, the stream was fast (immediate, zero loading/waiting) & basically perfect. Superior to a Netflix, Youtube, or Amazon stream. This might be due to the fact that traffic is quite low, but I'm still very impressed.
Posted August 31, 2014
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Thegevin: I streamed the 2 free films in 1080p & other than the subtitles falling off sync during The Art Of Playing, the stream was fast (immediate, zero loading/waiting) & basically perfect. Superior to a Netflix, Youtube, or Amazon stream. This might be due to the fact that traffic is quite low, but I'm still very impressed.
And the fact that ISPs didn't start treating this as a threat to their competing video services. Some corrupted ISPs degrade Netflix and other video services on purpose.

See https://secure.dslreports.com/shownews/Netflix-We-Had-to-Pay-Comcast-Because-We-Were-Losing-Customers-130259

GOG didn't register on their radars yet, but it's only a matter of time before it happens if GOG will grow bigger.
Post edited August 31, 2014 by shmerl
Posted August 31, 2014
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ShadowWulfe: Hopefully we can get new movies next week?

And... what about Galaxy?
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JudasIscariot: New movies are coming, yes :)

As for Galaxy, all I can say is "Soon" :)
Will Galaxy provide us a way to use all GOG content directly through Galaxy (ie Games, Movies, & Anything Else Added Latter). Meaning can we download a movie, click the movies tab and launch the movie in Galaxy (aka itunes).
Posted August 31, 2014
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JudasIscariot: New movies are coming, yes :)

As for Galaxy, all I can say is "Soon" :)
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BKGaming: Will Galaxy provide us a way to use all GOG content directly through Galaxy (ie Games, Movies, & Anything Else Added Latter). Meaning can we download a movie, click the movies tab and launch the movie in Galaxy (aka itunes).
I think it's a bad idea. Why reinvent the browser for the sake of it? Galaxy should provide something that browser doesn't (updating your media, providing some libraries for multilayer and so on). No point to copy Steam and others who reinvent the wheel of making a handicapped browser with poor experience.
Post edited August 31, 2014 by shmerl
Posted August 31, 2014
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BKGaming: Will Galaxy provide us a way to use all GOG content directly through Galaxy (ie Games, Movies, & Anything Else Added Latter). Meaning can we download a movie, click the movies tab and launch the movie in Galaxy (aka itunes).
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shmerl: I think it's a bad idea. Why reinvent the browser for the sake of it? Galaxy should provide something that browser doesn't (updating your media, providing some libraries for multilayer and so on). No point to copy Steam and others who reinvent the wheel of making a handicapped browser with poor experience.
Because were actually downloading the movies not just streaming (or I won't be anyway)... having galaxy be able to play those movies from my hard-drive cuts out on needing a third party video player (such as VLC) to play them on my PC. Besides from a businesses stand point it makes since for Galaxy to handle anything GOG offers to there customers including updating media, multiplayer, ect so that we can keep it all organized and easy for there customers to use. Simplicity drives business it's that simple.

If GOG expands to handle DRM free books and music latter then the Galaxy client could also handle that and eliminate third party programs in the process from also having to be installed. GOG Galaxy can be the defacto place for everything.
Posted August 31, 2014
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BKGaming: If GOG expands to handle DRM free books and music latter then the Galaxy client could also handle that and eliminate third party programs in the process from also having to be installed. GOG Galaxy can be the defacto place for everything.
I think it's better for GOG to concentrate on offering good service, rather than reinventing media players, e-book readers and browsers. Doing it requires tons of effort and there are excellent projects which handle those tasks just fine (you already mentioned VLC, I can add mpv to the list). I doubt GOG can invest such amount of man hours to catch up with VLC, mpv or open e-book readers. And if not, why would I want to use an inferior application to handle those types of media? It's just my opinon of course.

Also, don't forget. Releasing a player with decoder used in a commercial product would require GOG paying licenses for proprietary codecs like H.264 and AAC. And you don't even want to start dealing with that pile of garbage, since once you do, your expenses will be endless. Let GOG spend their resources on something useful, rather than feeding MPEG-LA patent trolls.

I'm not even sure what's the situation with simply selling or streaming commercial MP4 (H.264 / AAC) files. It also might require a separate toll paid to MPEG-LA.

See http://gigaom.com/2010/08/26/mpeg-la-h-264-streaming-will-be-free-forever/

MPEG LA is announcing today that it will continue to offer a royalty-free license for the H.264 video codec for video sites that offer free video streams to consumers “during the entire life of this (l)icense.” In other words: Web sites like YouTube will be free to use H.264 for its streams without having to fear they’re eventually going to have to pay massive royalties to MPEG LA.
Note the part about free streams. GOG's offering is commercial, so I suspect MPEG-LA leeches will want their piece of the pie just for the fact of streaming it. Distributing a decoder would add another separate fee, just because. GOG wouldn't want to go there. That's why may be it makes sense for GOG just to stick to free codecs and use WebM instead (may be it's too drastic but it can save tons of money). On the other hand the fact that most physical players are crippled by being locked into proprietary H.264 can make it a tough decision for GOG.
Post edited August 31, 2014 by shmerl
Posted August 31, 2014
Please fix your post, you've misquoted the wrong person.

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u2jedi: Unfortunately the situation with patents is a huge mess. Google tried to push a free codec VP8 (and now VP9) in WebM, but MPEG-LA cartel managed to sabotage wider adoption with FUD because Google weren't diligent enough to disprove that FUD. They waited too long until court cases to prove that claims are false, but it already did public damage. Then also Nokia came along (probably on behalf of Microsoft) and started patent trolling attacking VP8 with their claims to IETF.
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kaileeena: The idea of posting that google is the white sheep who was trying to make good is totally wrong. I am for one glad that they killed Google attempt to steal others work (as usual, if you track Google activities you would know that's what they do) and use that to have more control (Like Ajax which helps them track more of your activities).
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