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Posted August 27, 2014
Cause there's no business like show-business!

Our DRM-Free approach to digital distribution has been the foundation of GOG.com since day one and we're convinced it is now firmly rooted in the gaming industry landscape. More and more users start to expect and demand the digital content they paid for to be free from any kind of restrictive mechanisms that limit access to their collections and get in the way of enjoyment. We think this is a good time to take the next step in our quest to make digital entertainment better for everyone. Today we set out to spread our DRM-Free ideas across the movie industry! That's right: GOG.com now offers DRM-Free movies.

Our goal is to offer you cinema classics as well as some all-time favorite TV series with no DRM whatsoever, for you to download and keep on your hard drive or stream online whenever you feel like it. We talked to most of the big players in the movie industry and we often got a similar answer: "We love your ideas, but … we do not want to be the first ones. We will gladly follow, but until somebody else does it first, we do not want to take the risk". DRM-Free distribution is not a concept their lawyers would accept without hesitation. We kind of felt that would be the case and that it's gonna take patience and time to do it, to do it, to do it right. That's quite a journey ahead of us, but every gamer knows very well that great adventures start with one small step. So why not start with something that feels very familiar? We offer you a number of gaming and internet culture documentaries - all of them DRM-Free, very reasonably priced, and presenting some fascinating insight into topics close to a gamer's heart. Now, what do we have in store for you?

- There's a whole new Movie Catalog for you to browse!
- All the movies we sell are priced at $5.99 (that's a launch promo price for a few of them), and we aim to have that as the main price point for most of our future releases
- Two of the movies - The Art of Playing and TPB AFK: The Pirate Bay Away From Keyboard are available for FREE, so that you can test our new movie distribution features
- Most of our movies are in Full HD 1080p quality, some in 720p. With those of you with limited bandwidth or download quota in mind, we also supply much lighter 576p versions.
- Apart from downloading your movies you have the option to watch them streaming online, right here on GOG.com
- GOG.com is famous for its bonus goodies - each movie will come with as many of them as we can muster
- You can expect subsequent movie releases each week

That's it. GOG.com Movies is a go, time to get some popcorn!
Posted August 28, 2014
I'm not sure whether this review makes the Brony film the new Shivah or the new Keane... :-/

I dont understand why people watch this show in excess. I have watched it years ago and I learned a terrible truth about it. the show basically is trying to indoctrinate our children to be more diverse and tolerate towards other races, which includes muslims. this is really bad because we have bad tied with the muslims which includes Al-Qaeda and ISIS. is this their idea of making our children to be more liberal and destroying the very thing that protects us? Seriously, stop it. another problem is the fact that the fandom is an appalling cult filled with people who act like they know everything, not to mention fap to the porn thats been stacking up to the 50,000 image count. they and my first criticism are very dangerous threats to our nation and our religious speech. Protect your childrn and block this movie and the show that was made by a feminazi who wants to turn all of our american men into wusses when ISIS attacks our country. just watch them run around and scream like lemmings.... You have been warned!
Posted August 28, 2014
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Telika: EXCELLENT POINT !
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Potzato: Did you find your way highly amused.
Posted August 28, 2014
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VanishedOne: I'm not sure whether this review makes the Brony film the new Shivah or the new Keane... :-/

I dont understand why people watch this show in excess. ...
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VanishedOne:
lol, I don't even need to eat psychedelic mushroom. The last sentence was the last nail in the coffin.
Posted August 28, 2014
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barleyguy: Also, DRM free video is already thriving from the industry that is typically the front runner in video distribution, porn.
They've also started shooting in 4K. Not sure if mainstream movies come with a 4K option yet.
Posted August 28, 2014
Interesting, that's all got to say. I got hardly have time to watch TV or regular non-indie movies so not going to start with these now, but nice to have that option i suppose.
Posted August 28, 2014
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JMich: [...] They've also started shooting in 4K. Not sure if mainstream movies come with a 4K option yet. [...]
Only in walled garden solutions.
http://www.cnet.com/news/why-are-sony-and-samsung-keeping-4k-content-to-themselves/
Post edited August 28, 2014 by DebugMode
Posted August 28, 2014
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lukaszthegreat: Plenty of businesses are happy doing their thing.

most of them get close or are sold off.

You have to expand and grow to survive otherwise someone else will get into your turf. Direct2Drive failed because they were just doing their thing and were doing it well but didn't expand, didn't inovate and hence why they were sold off.

GOG is fighting a hard battle against Origin and Steam. especially steam. A battle they really cannot win only stall. Expanding into movie market can allow them to fight that battle for longer. if done well.
GOG's main problem however is that most customers don't see a reason to shop here instead of the major stores with massive market share. Most consumers don't care about DRM and worldwide pricing, so they see no reason to leave Steam.

I don't see that changing with movies, where their competitors would be iTunes and the like. If anything I think they have worse chances of making a dent, and less chance of convincing companies to sell their stuff DRM free.
Posted August 28, 2014
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Valoric: I agree with the others. Please give us multiple formats for the movies. Re-encode them into mkv, webm, daala (in the future), push the boundaries (FLAC, Opus, OGG) and make yourselves better than those providing these for free. Do what bandcamp.com does and give us the choice to be free or proprietary.

Give us the freedom to choose.
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DebugMode: Please leave the original somewhere if you're going to do this.
Do you mean original like lossless? Does compressed lossless video like FLAC exists? That would make GOG a world first if they had lossless video encodings for purchase. Hell, if they did I wouldn't mind paying their prices as well.
Posted August 28, 2014
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Valoric: Does compressed lossless video like FLAC exists?
Likely not commonly used, but yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_codecs#Lossless_compression_2
Posted August 28, 2014
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DebugMode: Please leave the original somewhere if you're going to do this.
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Valoric: Do you mean original like lossless? Does compressed lossless video like FLAC exists? That would make GOG a world first if they had lossless video encodings for purchase. Hell, if they did I wouldn't mind paying their prices as well.
I meant the files provided by the content creator. The stuff has most likely been converted a few times. Now if you reencode them into webm, daala or other formats (like you mentioned ealier), you'd end up degrading their quality.
Bandcamp can do that because the uploaded files have to be in a lossless format. The conversion from lossless to lossless has no impact and lossless to lossy is still better than lossy to lossy.
To do the same with movies GOG would need to offer a lossless format like Lagarith or H.264 lossless, but since the main file is already lossy, it would only inflate the size without any functional gain.
TL;DR: You get the best quality with the original untouched files.
Posted August 28, 2014
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DebugMode: I meant the files provided by the content creator. The stuff has most likely been converted a few times. Now if you reencode them into webm, daala or other formats (like you mentioned ealier), you'd end up degrading their quality.
Bandcamp can do that because the uploaded files have to be in a lossless format. The conversion from lossless to lossless has no impact and lossless to lossy is still better than lossy to lossy.
To do the same with movies GOG would need to offer a lossless format like Lagarith or H.264 lossless, but since the main file is already lossy, it would only inflate the size without any functional gain.
TL;DR: You get the best quality with the original untouched files.
Absolutely. Anything less would be a mistake and misunderstanding video encoding itself. Perhaps the best way would be to enforce an upload constraints to only lossless HD/4K and have GOG have an automated script that encodes the preferable & more accessible lossy options. Having archive quality that you can buy would be unprecedented!
Posted August 28, 2014
For me it is of course a great idea and I'm looking forward to buy all sereis os Star Trek :)
I thought DRM-free style of selling would be impossible for games but it is (thanks to GOG, I hope it will be the case with movies also.
Posted August 28, 2014
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Valoric: [...] Absolutely. Anything less would be a mistake and misunderstanding video encoding itself. Perhaps the best way would be to enforce an upload constraints to only lossless HD/4K and have GOG have an automated script that encodes the preferable & more accessible lossy options. Having archive quality that you can buy would be unprecedented!
Hmm... This could work for analog transfers and maybe animation to some degree. Life action is problematic. At least I'd assume that there are no devices in the indie or AA studio range that use lossless formats for recording. So it would be lossy no matter what.
Posted August 28, 2014
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Aeros2: For me it is of course a great idea and I'm looking forward to buy all sereis os Star Trek :)
I thought DRM-free style of selling would be impossible for games but it is (thanks to GOG, I hope it will be the case with movies also.
If iTunes can sell DRM-Free MP3s without imploding. Then movies can succeed too without the weight of harmful non-security practices. TBH, it really isn't up to GOG. It's up to artists and the movie industry whether or not they will all stop treating us as criminals.
Post edited August 28, 2014 by Valoric
Posted August 28, 2014
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Valoric: [...] TBH, it really isn't up to GOG. It's up to artists and the movie industry whether or not they will all stop treating us as criminals.
Someone has to start though. GOG and VHX are doing a good job right now. I'd actually want them to cooperate. VHX offers movies, but has no storefront. GOG has a storefront, but barely movies.
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