HOORAY!

This keeps getting better!

lol, I like your enthusiasm. ˆˆ

Maybe gog emails somehow went to the Trash section of Alf's email, that's why he thinks gog doesn't send emails when a stranger tries to login with his account.

It always (really, always) did to me when a 'stranger' (me, in a different computer) tried to login. It sends a mysterious code to my email. Code that only I will know, since I'm a little paranoid and my password is a 'bit' exaggerated.

Third it.

Actually, the worst case is that most of that money would be paid into dormant accounts and GOG would never see it again. That's why similar rebates/gifts elsewhere (say, at Ticketmaster-type companies) are typically a) time-limited, and b) based on coupon codes that need to be redeemed. Nobody just gives all their customers money straight-up.

Guess this will make a good number of people happy. Though one has more than one GOG Wallet if more currencies are available to them.

And I see the User Agreement has been updated with Section 6.16-6.18, and Wallet FAQ #7 speaks of "in-game purchases".


From the Wallet FAQ [emphasis added]: From the User Agreement [emphasis added]: Could a blue text shed some light how exactly this "combined" and "mixed with" works in practice?

Again, it's not real money. It's a number in the system which causes $1 to be deducted from the next purchase. GOG doesn't need to put out any actual money, they only need to cover the discrepancy in the difference as to how much is profit to the publisher. For example, if the publisher gets $2 on the sale of a $6 game, and GOG pockets the rest, then GOG only gets $3 on a game where someone used the $1 gift, as opposed to their usual $4. You can see this as GOG out a dollar, or more realistically as GOG up three dollars.

Once more, this assumes there isn't a way to withdraw money from the wallet as real cash. If there is, then my proposal is indeed unworkable, as it theoretically means an outlay of real money for GOG. But if that's not the case then GOG loses very little by implementing my scheme.

All moot anyway, as they've debuted the Wallet sans free gift, so any subsequent act would probably garner less initial interest than pairing it with the launch would have.

Thank you! <3

Will there be GOG Wallet cards in stores soon? Because this is so close to what Steam Wallet does, but you still have to use Paypal for this, it seems.

I might agree or not based on whether you think being nice to each other is rational or not.
And how is saying that buying a gift requires some thought and effort put into it an appeal to common practice? Hardly a RATIONAL accusation.

If your wallet only contains Free Wallet, there is an expiration date. If your wallet contains both Wallet Funds (aka you've specifically bought funds), there is no expiration date.

I'm pretty sure GOG's accountants would disagree with you that it's not real money. Possibly also their legal department, because what you suggest sounds to me as though it would potentially violate a bunch of laws concerning how companies need to treat assets that technically belong to their customers. Again, there are reasons why such rebate promotions normally require active participation by the customer, and aren't just "let us put some free money into your customer account".

Okay, once again, the problem is in symbolically viewing GOG Wallet funds as analogous with cash. They are only so if I can withdraw GOG Wallet funds and convert them back into cash. If I cannot, then they are no different then me buying a handful of tokens at an old coin-op arcade. I have converted cash into a form of scrip which is only valid with a certain vendor. The fact that I have to spend money to "earn" tokens means it is real money for me, but it is not correspondingly money for the person who owns the tokens to hand them out. It represents at most a fractional loss of potential profits for them to do that, offset by the opportunity of actual profits. (If an arcade gives me a free token every time I buy four for a dollar, they aren't "losing" a quarter, they are motivating me to give them a dollar. At most they lose the potential costs incurred by me using the free token instead of buying one more.)

So, in short, if it's a two-way transaction (I buy GOG Wallet funds with money and can convert GOG Wallet funds back into money), then the problem is as you suggest. But if it's a one-way transaction (I buy GOG Wallet funds and they become electronic dollars that can only be spent at GOG and never turned back into actual cash), then my original proposal holds water.

I don't know how to make it simpler.

EDIT: typo

Ok, I get it. The system is useful if I can and want to use it. But could you please acept that there are people who can't or don't want to use it the way it exist (maybe I don't have access to my mailbox all the time). How exactly would it lower security if there would be an optional 2FA for password changes only?

That someone knows the password to my GOG account, doesn't mean he knows the password to my mail as well. It could still prevent a takeover of my account before it happens. It might not be as secure as 2FA for everything, but right now we only have the choice between 0% security and 100% security. How about some more options to make the system more comfortable for everyone?

Which would still require terms of conditions to be drawn up specifically for this one promotion, because the existing terms covering store credit clearly only apply to the case of games being bought. And I suspect on the accounting side it would still have to count as a bottom line-reducing liability even if there's a time limit in place.

Sigh. There's no difference to you as a customer. I'm suggesting that there are very real differences to GOG as a corporate entity, and they're very much non-trivial. If you're unable to grasp that distinction even now, I really don't know what to say anymore.


Edit: Incidentally, your coin-op example only serves to muddy the waters, because that's exactly the type of scenario I was talking about where the customers have to actively involve themselves in receiving the "virtual cash". It doesn't just materialize out of thin air as in the unworkable feel-good promo you were suggesting.