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General discussionIntroducing: GOG Galaxy, the DRM-Free online gaming platform(917 posts)(917 posts)
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Posted June 06, 2014
Freedom of choice. Optional client. Cross-play. Coming soon to all gamers!

Earlier today (or was it yesterday for you?), during the [url=http://www.gog.com/news/cd_projekt_red_gogcom_summer_conference]CD Projekt RED and GOG.com’s Summer Conference we dropped the news about our next big step forward! GOG.com has always been home to more and more of the the best games in history (for Windows and Mac), both classic and new. Differing in shapes, flavors, and sizes they had one thing in common: they were mostly single-player, and our focus was mainly on the experience of a singular gamer. If that's your thing, nothing really will change. You can always enjoy your favorite games 100% DRM-free on GOG.com, with no need to activate your game online or remain connected to play your single-player title. Just like GOG.com has always been about.. But what if you want to play with your friends?

Today we are excited to announce GOG Galaxy, a truly gamer-friendly, 100% DRM-free online gaming platform that will finally provide the GOG.com community with the easy option to play together online. GOG Galaxy will allow you to share your achievements, stay in touch with your pals and get the updates for your games automatically. We've developed this technology to improve your GOG.com experience. We think GOG Galaxy really deserves your attention and we hope many of you will give it a try! But, here's the great thing: it is totally optional, so it's all up to you! If you do not want to play online, or use our optional client to access these features, then no worries, you will always be able to play the single-player mode 100% DRM-free, and download manually the latest updated version of your favorite title from our website. Now, for one more feature we call cross-play. We always believed in an open world for gamers, with no obligation to be tied to a specific platform or client; and this is why GOG Galaxy will allow gamers to play with their buddies who use Steam, without any need to use any 3rd party client or account, nothing, nada. We’re taking care of connecting GOG.com and Steam players, so just sit back, relax and give it a try.

See the outtake from the CD Projekt RED & GOG.com Summer Conference

Talking of which, we are proud to announce the soon-to-come launch of the beta phase for The Witcher Adventure Game, a faithful adaptation of the board game of the same title. It allows up to 4 players to play together, whether they use Steam or GOG.com. Cross-play at its finest! If you wanna get the chance to try it out, please visit and sign up to get in the queue for your beta access key. You can also simply take advantage of our amazing [url=http://www.gog.com/tw3]pre-order offer for The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, which includes 2 beta access keys for he Witcher Aventure Game, delivered to you as soon as we start handing them out to public.

We believe GOG Galaxy has the power to provide the best of both worlds. Playing the single player mode of your favorite game, 100% DRM-free, while still having the OPTION to use our soon-to-come client for an enhanced experience (auto-patching, achievements, and much more) or play online with other GOG.com (and Steam) players if you so wish.

There will be more GOG Galaxy titles coming up this year, so stay tuned for more news and get the word around!
Post edited June 06, 2014 by G-Doc
Posted June 07, 2014
I'd love to see a full game mods support in GOG Galaxy. You know, in the same manner of way as the Steam Workshop. Easy installation with just one simple press of a button.
Posted June 07, 2014
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archaven: I have one SERIOUS question. If my INTERNET is down, will i be able to launch the client WITHOUT sign in and play my games?

IF i need to sign in, then this is DRM. Thanks
How about simply launching your games from your file manager in that case ?
Posted June 07, 2014
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archaven: I have one SERIOUS question. If my INTERNET is down, will i be able to launch the client WITHOUT sign in and play my games?

IF i need to sign in, then this is DRM. Thanks
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Erich_Zann: How about simply launching your games from your file manager in that case ?
That be great to know. I HOPE i don't need to have the client on to launch the game? IF so then there's the flaw..
Posted June 07, 2014
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Erich_Zann: How about simply launching your games from your file manager in that case ?
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archaven: That be great to know. I HOPE i don't need to have the client on to launch the game? IF so then there's the flaw..
You won't need the client to launch the game and play single player. It's for multiplayer that you will probably need it.

Given that thought that the Galaxy client may be required for multiplayer, it'd be mighty ironic to see "3rd Party DRM: GOG Galaxy" in the future on the other retailers ...
Post edited June 07, 2014 by Pheace
Posted June 07, 2014
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Vestin: That's what I call "listening to customer feedback". Do you know what the difference is? People were reacting to REALITY, not imaginary scenarios that could have occured further down the line.
Furthermore, and this is as much of a conjecture as what you have said explicitly and otherwise, I believe even in that very instance they were trying to act with our best interest in mind.
Ultimately - we have very little control over how other people act. All we can rely on is the respect they have for us and trust we have in them. Hypothetically - your wife could stab you do death in your sleep, but you probably neither consider nor make plans to save yourself from such a scenario. Hell - lacking this basic form of trust would mean living as if everyone around us was pretty much a zombie infectee that could turn against us at any point. Society cannot function like that.
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Shendue: Being overly dramatic won't deny the simple truth that being CAREFUL (not paranoid, mind, careful) is the only reason the whole human genre didn't vanish in the belly of T-Rexes long ago.
Uh...not to turn into 'Science Nazi' but humans did not exist when the T-rex existed. Also, you are trying to label paranoia as "being careful" when there is a clear difference. Conspiracy theorists are paranoid. Police are careful. Doomsday cultists are paranoid. Paramedics are careful. People who live by the 'Slippery slope' fallacy are paranoid, not careful.
Posted June 07, 2014
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hhdcsg: You don't have to be privy to the internal workings of the company to know that development of practically anything requires resources, at the very minimum: time. You also don't need any special backstage passes to understand the concept of non-infinite resources.
I don't have a dog in this race seeing as I don't plan on using Galaxy and have no strong feelings about it either way, but about the only way I can figure you to believe that the argument of "using resources that could be used otherwise" doesn't hold weight or have merit is for you to not really understand the argument.
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JohnnyDollar: You could also tell me that GOG are going to take a loss over the next 3 years and shut down from this decision. I tell you that statement has no merit because you don't have access to the relevant info. You say that it doesn't take access to understand that when a company spends more money then what they bring in they eventually go bankrupt.

GOG can grow exponentially and become a powerhouse in the industry during that time for all we know. I can tell you that GOG will see growth like they never have before from this decision, and because of that, GOG will have more resources to allocate to bringing old classics to the catalog.

Both arguments are based on assumptions with few facts other than company A is investing in X.

I understand it just fine. It's like speculative discussion held around the water cooler. It doesn't hold much weight at the end of the day.
Several homespun cliches spring to mind. I could tell you lots of things, but let's try looking at what was actually said instead of attacking what could be said.
A person might very well disapprove of the Galaxy project. That person might hold the opinion that the resources spent on Galaxy would be better used elsewhere.
No clairvoyance or speculation on the catastrophic collapse of GOG is necessary. Only the knowledge that resources are being spent on Galaxy, and that resources are not infinite.

Anyway, like I've already said: none of the dogs in this race are mine. So I'll bow out and sneak off back to playing video games and away from making forum posts.
Post edited June 07, 2014 by hhdcsg
Posted June 07, 2014
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DrearierSpider: Yes, you were the original person that I was referring to. How was I supposed to recognize that you were being sarcastic/making a bad joke from plain text? And I'm fine with people having opinions that aren't my own, as long as they can be logically argued. I don't think anybody has any logical reason to complain about Galaxy, as it's entirely optional and won't change GOG for you at all if you don't want it. I apologize for the confusion though, I didn't realize you were joking.
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zero_koop: Here is a logical reason to not like Galaxy: it takes company resources away from other areas of the business. Even if you don't like or use Galaxy, by buying games from GOG you in fact paying for Galaxy because your payments are funneled into the development of that project. Think outside the box. For the record, I love the idea of Galaxy and I can't wait to try it out. I'm just playing devil's advocate.
That is not logical. You are presuming GOG does not have enough resources to handle what they have always done while adding more options for players.
And yes, I know you were only playing Devil's Advocate. Just countering that argument is all. ;)
Posted June 07, 2014
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zero_koop: Here is a logical reason to not like Galaxy: it takes company resources away from other areas of the business. Even if you don't like or use Galaxy, by buying games from GOG you in fact paying for Galaxy because your payments are funneled into the development of that project. Think outside the box. For the record, I love the idea of Galaxy and I can't wait to try it out. I'm just playing devil's advocate.
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SkeleTony: That is not logical. You are presuming GOG does not have enough resources to handle what they have always done while adding more options for players.
And yes, I know you were only playing Devil's Advocate. Just countering that argument is all. ;)
Yes, but it is a concern, the new company focus on Galaxy could easily result in GOG not paying enough attention to the old manual way to download and install GOG games, and for those of us who prefer not to use the client becoming "forgotten" or not cared about, patching is already slow on GOG, but if GOG were to focus on Galaxy's autoupdates it could become even slower for them to upload patch installers for non-Galaxy users. Or they could even stop patch support for the patches on browser GOG.com and only upload complete installers, so you would need to redownload the entire game every time it's updated.

The browser GOG.com could become the "poor ghetto" without much support, and alienate those who don't want to use the client. It's always a risk and I hope GOG are aware of it.
Posted June 07, 2014
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hhdcsg: Several homespun cliches spring to mind. I could tell you lots of things, but let's try looking at what was actually said instead of attacking what could be said.
A person might very well disapprove of the Galaxy project. That person might hold the opinion that the resources spent on Galaxy would be better used elsewhere.
No clairvoyance or speculation of any kind is necessary. Only the knowledge that resources are being spent on Galaxy, and that resources are not infinite.
When you insinuated earlier that I didn't understand, you referred to it as an argument. Now it's an opinion. I assume you made the switch since you didn't provide evidence, because saying resources aren't infinite doesn't even scratch the surface.

As far as it just being an opinion goes, sure, we all can have an opinion. Just don't expect me to buy into it without backing it up. Nothing against the person holding the opinion, but I'm going to take it for what I see it's worth. ;)
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hhdcsg: Anyway, like I've already said: none of the dogs in this race are mine. So I'll bow out and sneak off back to playing video games and away from making forum posts.
Sounds good. Have fun. :)
Posted June 07, 2014
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archaven: I have one SERIOUS question. If my INTERNET is down, will i be able to launch the client WITHOUT sign in and play my games?

IF i need to sign in, then this is DRM. Thanks
Why would you need the client if you don't have internet? You can play the game as you can now without it. The client is for multiplayer and related services (which obviously requires a connection). That's like saying that requiring internet to play online is DRM. It doesn't make sense.
Post edited June 07, 2014 by Alexrd
Posted June 07, 2014
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JudasIscariot: 1. No deal is being made, instead we're giving you the chance to play with others like it used to be before digital distribution :) Remember when you popped in a multiplayer game like Quake and then just surfed the servers without a third party app? Galaxy is kind of like that :)

2. Not sure about those myself just yet but I believe we'll have more details on achievements and such once we are closer to releaseing Galaxy :)

3. It depends on the older games themselves. Some you might be able to, some might be beyond saving but we'll at least make it so you can autoupdate them with our fixes should we make any for the older games :)
okay thanks! this sounds good :-)
Posted June 07, 2014
Ok so i seem to have seen about 3 threads (atleast) on this new Galaxy info. Sorry if this has been asked or suggested.

Q: Is this Impulse? As in did GoG buy Impulse from whatever that terrible american game store is called?

If so i have no problem with that as Impulse was pretty good, i preferred it to Steam 100% (as i can't use Steam). I used 'Impulse Anywhere' which was the Impulse version that allowed you to download and run games on non-internet connected PC's (via a key it generated that you could transfer over via keydrive etc).

Will Galaxy have this kind of option to install on non-internet connected PC's like the current GoG downloader let's you?
Posted June 07, 2014
One question : Will galaxy directly install the game on my computer? download an installer? Or will it allow both of those options? Since the downloader is going away and direct dowload is quite bad with heavier games, it's important for people who want to backup their installers, or like me, who want to install games on comp without internet connections (which is possible right now, and is a pretty big selling point for me)
Posted June 07, 2014
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GOG is going down a road i cannot follow and i am someone who will take my business elsewhere if i even smell the hint of DRM being forced down our collective throats.
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inc09nito: We can't stay in middle ages forever. We want more games on GOG and it often means: new games with multiplayer. How else do you expect it to work?

As far as I understand, GOG has offered a will to implement a solution that is going to benefit all of us:
1 . those who want to stay in single-player realm safely and DRM-free
2 . those who wish to play multi-player and not be bothered by a spy-ware which steam is
3 . those who wish to play with steam folks (cross-play)
They are trying to make all of us happy and they are _asking_ us to participate in the project. I am sure they won't do anything the community wouldn't like.
What more the hell you want?

The solution is not delivered yet and people are bitching about it already. Please be more constructive.
Stay in the past that's laughable if we wanted to stay in the past we'd admit defeat and just be on the monopoly bandwagon that is steam.
Instead people like me support kickstarter initiatives and hold hamachi based LAN over internet play.
(Which steam greenlight is a direct response to in anti-competative manner).

If you want a future of continually being arse raped by pencil pushers finding the next evolution of DLC to put the squeeze on you while holding your gaming life hostage, then be my guest live in the dark ages.

I for one am voting with my wallet and not giving them an edge; and in fact steam needs people like me to keep organizations like GOG.com so they can obfuscate their anti-competative monopoly on gaming, through the propping up of 1-2 companies as seemingly valid competitors.

Steam can go fornicate itself to death with a rusty spoon in a house fire.
Posted June 07, 2014
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inc09nito: We can't stay in middle ages forever. We want more games on GOG and it often means: new games with multiplayer. How else do you expect it to work?

As far as I understand, GOG has offered a will to implement a solution that is going to benefit all of us:
1 . those who want to stay in single-player realm safely and DRM-free
2 . those who wish to play multi-player and not be bothered by a spy-ware which steam is
3 . those who wish to play with steam folks (cross-play)
They are trying to make all of us happy and they are _asking_ us to participate in the project. I am sure they won't do anything the community wouldn't like.
What more the hell you want?

The solution is not delivered yet and people are bitching about it already. Please be more constructive.
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MaceyNeil: Stay in the past that's laughable if we wanted to stay in the past we'd admit defeat and just be on the monopoly bandwagon that is steam.
Instead people like me support kickstarter initiatives and hold hamachi based LAN over internet play.
(Which steam greenlight is a direct response to in anti-competative manner).

If you want a future of continually being arse raped by pencil pushers finding the next evolution of DLC to put the squeeze on you while holding your gaming life hostage, then be my guest live in the dark ages.

I for one am voting with my wallet and not giving them an edge; and in fact steam needs people like me to keep organizations like GOG.com so they can obfuscate their anti-competative monopoly on gaming, through the propping up of 1-2 companies as seemingly valid competitors.

Steam can go fornicate itself to death with a rusty spoon in a house fire.
in case anyone at Valve is reading this, while people may happen to have issues with DRM, early access, game ownership, certain monetizing practices, as well as many other issues, not everyone agrees with or feels the same way as this comment. jeez
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