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Posted January 28, 2016
Excellent hand-picked games, 14-day refund policy, always DRM-free.

We want GOG.com to be the home of games that are both excellent and really worth your time.
In today's gaming world, we're seeing more and more titles that become hits before development dwindles down. We want to give you a way to enjoy what these games have to offer, a way that's comfortable and fair to you — the GOG.com way: that means evaluating each and every game, a 14-day no-questions-asked refund policy, and more.




That's why today, we're introducing the first five games in development:
Starbound (-33%)
Ashes of the Singularity (-25%)
Project Zomboid (-40%)
TerraTech (-30%)
The Curious Expedition (-15%)







The GOG.com way.
First and foremost: we're hand-picking only the games we can truly stand behind. Offering a selection of the most promising titles, and those most highly requested on the Community Wishlist, is our way of avoiding bloat and ensuring that every game will be worth your time.

It takes some confidence to discover games that are still being shaped — and to build that trust, every game in development comes with a simple refund policy: 14 days, no questions asked. It doesn't matter if you're having technical issues, if you don't think the game is sufficiently fleshed out, or if it simply doesn't click with you — all games in development can be returned for any reason within 14 days of purchase.

The GOG Galaxy client should also come in handy for games in development. It lets you control updates manually if you want, while the rollback feature allows you to easily restore any earlier version of your game if an update breaks something or makes unwanted changes. For games in development, rollback will also track and create historical snapshots throughout a game's development. That means you can always revisit any point in a game's history — for fun, or for science.






It's your call.
For those of you who prefer to wait for the final release, nothing will change. Once a game leaves active development, we will be making the announcement and giving the newest release proper exposure. Basically, business as usual.






More info.
Surely you have questions. You'll find many of the answers in the <span class="bold">games in development FAQ, including more details on the new refund policy. Our User Agreement has also been expanded to accommodate games in development — check out sections 6.12, 6.13, and 6.14 to find all the new information.




Enjoy your time with games in development!
Post edited January 28, 2016 by Konrad
Posted January 31, 2016
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FiatLux: With respect to your very long previous post in this thread then though you see that GOG needs "viable business" to survive , then I am not sure that you understands that GOG needs a lot more than that if they want to be a big player on the market and a *DRM FREE* contender to places like Steam in order to change the DRM concept to DRM FREE... Though GOG for me were a place I learned about because I found a GOG game (Good Old Game( then for me my support and "love for GOG" soon became because of the DRM FREE concept If GOG ever really strays from that then for me they have little to no place on the market......
But I think that maybe that GOG is also trying to walk a thin fine line here (?)
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Serpico: I'm glad we agree as far as Galaxy is concerned. Regarding my earlier post I want to clarfiy that I am perfectly aware of the fact that in order to compete on this market, GOG has to grow. And in order to grow, GOG has to introduce changes in its business model. But the fact that I understand why they introduce such changes doesn't mean I have to automatically like the changes, as they make GOG more and more similar to all the other stores out there. If I understand you correctly, you are fine with anything GOG decides to do as long as they remain DRM-free (for the sake of the argument let's ignore the fact that many people consider some of the games already available on GOG not to be DRM-free). It is different for me - the primary reason I bought my games on GOG was NOT the fact that the games offered are DRM-free. It was because it was a small, highly-specialised store offering games I was emotionally attached to, which did not do all of the things other bigger stores did (aggressive sales, pre-orders, DLCs etc.). When they decided to change that, the 'ideological' (i.e. non-rational) reason to buy games exclusively from them was gone for me.

This doesn't change the fact that I still buy my games pretty much exclusively here. That's because on a rational level I still think this store is the best. And I care about DRM-free just enough to choose GOG over their competition. It's just that many people assume that DRM-free was always the most important reason why people cared for GOG - it may be true for the majority of users, but it just wasn't for me.

EDIT: Re-phrasing for clarity sake.
I completely understand your love for "games you are emotionally attached to" , the reason that I know of GOG at all is because I searched for a way to get old games legally. So of course then I , as well as anyone else that really likes GOG will support that GOG should start to sell much more of the games that are wish-listed by people - in fact if possible they ought to start to sell all of them ;)
And you are wrong if thinking that I will accept anything that GOG do. I don't mind being critical , but why not take a positive attitude when possible ?
This thread that we are in here is called "Introducing Games in Development" , and if you look then I think that I have been critical enough , but why "bitch" about it ? I mean , look at it this way : one of the games they have introduced I have wanted to know for a long time if it was worth buying. So why should I complain generally ? , I mean I can buy a "Introducing Games in Development" game at GOG , and try it for almost 14 days and at the end of that period then if I am not completely satisfied then I can get all my money back , quote : "that means evaluating each and every game, a 14-day no-questions-asked refund policy, and more" ..
I mean surely I want the developer of each and every GOG "Introducing Games in Development" game to finish their respective games and really hope that they do but here at least I try what is available now and if I either think that developer can't or won't live up to expectation or if I think that the game is simply too poor then I am free to get my money back - I don't think that you will find a better deal anywhere else if you are talking "Games in Development".
And with respect to games generally then of course they ought to be DRM FREE everywhere like here - and that is true not only for games that you learned to love yesterday but also for games that you might learn to love tomorrow , I mean , when it is DRM FREE and bought at GOG then you can download and keep the game , once bought it is yours to keep. So let us get that to be true for all games , be that Good Old Games , "Games in Development" (that might be tomorrows finished games) , or finished "new games" . So rather than take a negative attitude to GOG then let's try and see if we can't get GOG to give us more of what we want :) - while they make good business of it ;)
Post edited January 31, 2016 by FiatLux
Posted January 31, 2016
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amok: My advice is that you should stay away from buying alpha/betas and wait until games are completed
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real.geizterfahr: Don't worry, that's exactly what I'll do ;) As I said a few posts earlier: The only Early Access game I've ever bought is Lego Worlds, because I like the idea of a Lego sandbox and because I think that Warner Bros. and Lego will ensure a finished product (they don't want to have their names being associated with a canceled Early Access game). But I wouldn't trust any smaller companies.
Aye, and I think this should be the end of this thread....
Posted January 31, 2016
Bitching's awesome. Telling other people what they should do's fucked up.
Posted January 31, 2016
Hey GoG, currently it's impossible to find Games in Development with the search.
(f.e. with "in Development")

Can you update this.
Posted January 31, 2016
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HunchBluntley: So, to use your example, if I bought that game only after the third of those five patches had been put out, I would still be able to roll back to the version available just before the first patch?
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Thiev: You'll get access to all versions.
Will post-release buyers get access to InDev versions?
(Just wondering, already got the whole set.)
Posted January 31, 2016
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AlienMind: Bitching's awesome. Telling other people what they should do's fucked up.
Telling bitches to stop bitching is so awesome , to tell people that they have to put up with bitches is so fucked up :D
Posted January 31, 2016
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Thiev: You'll get access to all versions.
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Starmaker: Will post-release buyers get access to InDev versions?
(Just wondering, already got the whole set.)
I GoG you can only download the lates release, so i guess no.
Posted January 31, 2016
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chatnick: Hey GoG, currently it's impossible to find Games in Development with the search.
(f.e. with "in Development")

Can you update this.
Here's how:

Go to "Games"

Click "Features"

Make sure the check box for "In Development" has a check in it.

This will show you only the games "In Development"

See: http://www.gog.com/games##sort=bestselling&amp;feature=in_development&amp;page=1
Posted January 31, 2016
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FiatLux: I completely understand your love for "games you are emotionally attached to" , the reason that I know of GOG at all is because I searched for a way to get old games legally. So of course then I , as well as anyone else that really likes GOG will support that GOG should start to sell much more of the games that are wish-listed by people - in fact if possible they ought to start to sell all of them ;)
And you are wrong if thinking that I will accept anything that GOG do. I don't mind being critical , but why not take a positive attitude when possible ?
This thread that we are in here is called "Introducing Games in Development" , and if you look then I think that I have been critical enough , but why "bitch" about it ? I mean , look at it this way : one of the games they have introduced I have wanted to know for a long time if it was worth buying. So why should I complain generally ? , I mean I can buy a "Introducing Games in Development" game at GOG , and try it for almost 14 days and at the end of that period then if I am not completely satisfied then I can get all my money back , quote : "that means evaluating each and every game, a 14-day no-questions-asked refund policy, and more" ..
It was never my intention to 'bitch' about anything - if it seemed that way, then I must have made myself less clear than I thought I did. I actually don't mind the "Games in Development" thing at all - I've already said as much in my first post. The only thing that I am slightly concerned about is the fact that this new feature will put additional workload on GOG staff - constant updates, refunds, additional support etc. - and that this may have a negative impact on GOG's efforts to bring the games from the wishlist to the store. But since I do not have any evidence that this might actually happen, I assume that they will manage to maintain proper balance between things and will not neglect the classic releases. So my attitude isn't really negative at all.

Generally speaking, I agree with everything you've said about DRM. There is no argument between us on this topic - I also believe that all games should be DRM-free, both the classics and the new releases, as it is the only fair way to treat customers. And I certainly wish GOG success with making as many games DRM-free as possible. There is just one thing that sort of bothers me, though. Let's imagine that suddenly Steam decides to make all their games DRM-free - what reason would people have then to use GOG over Steam? The thing that actually makes me uneasy is that I am not really able to convincingly answer this question.
Post edited January 31, 2016 by Serpico
Posted January 31, 2016
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Starmaker: Will post-release buyers get access to InDev versions?
(Just wondering, already got the whole set.)
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chatnick: I GoG you can only download the lates release, so i guess no.
1. With Galaxy, it's already possible to pick a game version up to the earliest published one.
2. Even if it wasn't, there's no telling what will be implemented on GOG by the time these games leave InDev.
Posted January 31, 2016
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AlienMind: Bitching's awesome. Telling other people what they should do's fucked up.
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FiatLux: Telling bitches to stop bitching is so awesome , to tell people that they have to put up with bitches is so fucked up :D
oh, you have to "put up with" other peoples opinions. oh my.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rh6qqsmxNs
Post edited January 31, 2016 by AlienMind
Posted January 31, 2016
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Thiev: You'll get access to all versions.
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Starmaker: Will post-release buyers get access to InDev versions?
(Just wondering, already got the whole set.)
If it's available for rollback, it is available to all.
Posted January 31, 2016
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Serpico: Let's imagine that suddenly Steam decides to make all their games DRM-free - what reason would people have then to use GOG over Steam?
Curation. Promo policies / package deals. A better refund policy. Staff who aren't ass. No cards / badges / levels / other similar bullshit. And VERSION ROLLBACK (I can't all-caps this enough).

There's only one feature I really like on Steam, and that is rich content (for walkthroughs, guides, and such). The internets as a whole have been really letting me down on this, with endless clickbait wikis allegedly containing walkthroughs but empty of actual content. I like it so much that I occasionally consider making an account there, never mind the DRM, and then I remember the badges and sober up.

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Starmaker: Will post-release buyers get access to InDev versions?
(Just wondering, already got the whole set.)
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Thiev: If it's available for rollback, it is available to all.
Awesome, thank you!
Posted January 31, 2016
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FiatLux: I completely understand your love for "games you are emotionally attached to" , the reason that I know of GOG at all is because I searched for a way to get old games legally. So of course then I , as well as anyone else that really likes GOG will support that GOG should start to sell much more of the games that are wish-listed by people - in fact if possible they ought to start to sell all of them ;)
And you are wrong if thinking that I will accept anything that GOG do. I don't mind being critical , but why not take a positive attitude when possible ?
This thread that we are in here is called "Introducing Games in Development" , and if you look then I think that I have been critical enough , but why "bitch" about it ? I mean , look at it this way : one of the games they have introduced I have wanted to know for a long time if it was worth buying. So why should I complain generally ? , I mean I can buy a "Introducing Games in Development" game at GOG , and try it for almost 14 days and at the end of that period then if I am not completely satisfied then I can get all my money back , quote : "that means evaluating each and every game, a 14-day no-questions-asked refund policy, and more" ..
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Serpico: It was never my intention to 'bitch' about anything - if it seemed that way, then I must have made myself less clear than I thought I did. I actually don't mind the "Games in Development" thing at all - I've already said as much in my first post. The only thing that I am slightly concerned about is the fact that this new feature will put additional workload on GOG staff - constant updates, refunds, additional support etc. - and that this may have a negative impact on GOG's efforts to bring the games from the wishlist to the store. But since I do not have any evidence that this might actually happen, I assume that they will manage to maintain proper balance between things and will not neglect the classic releases. So my attitude isnt't really negative at all.

Generally speaking, I agree with everything you've said about DRM. There is no argument between us on this topic - I also believe that all games should be DRM-free, both the classics and the new releases, as it is the only fair way to treat customers. And I certainly wish GOG success with making as many games DRM-free as possible. There is just one thing that sort of bothers me, though. Let's imagine that suddenly Steam decides to make all their games DRM-free - what reason would people have then to use GOG over Steam? The thing that actually makes me uneasy is that I am not really able to convincingly answer this question.
I am very sorry for having caused any confusion and I may have read only some of your posts and not all . I never intended for it to sound as if you "bitched" , I don't think that you bitch at all . I think that you came across as a person that is maybe a little set in your ways (which may have made you sound a little negative in some ways) , but hey ! , so am I (set in my ways) - but I know that I am set in my ways and try to fight it when I think appropriate - which is not exactly always when other people want me to ;) (LOL) .

As for the Steam vs GOG question then Steam is not only a store , it is also a DRM method so I don't see Steam ever going totally DRM FREE (the only reason that I personally ever got on Steam was because I bought a game on DVD that would not install without Steam cause it used Steam as DRM - basically it was screwing people to sell it on DVD - they should have sold it as go to Steam and install on their DRM platform and if they had I don't think that I would have bought it back then...
Anyway , if I have to be fair then I don't know if you can compare Steam and GOG ? , only time will tell. At the moment GOG gives much better customer service than Steam in my experience has ever given, but if GOG were able to do better in Steams situation , I simply do not know.. (I do not know enough about the long term money flow and business viability in the two companies...) Also I think that GOG has been a much friendlier place , but in forums and staff wise...
Maybe time will answer such questions ? , who knows ? ;)
Posted January 31, 2016
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FiatLux: Telling bitches to stop bitching is so awesome , to tell people that they have to put up with bitches is so fucked up :D
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AlienMind: oh, you have to "put up with" other peoples opinions. oh my.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rh6qqsmxNs
That's not what I wrote and is a total twisting of what I wrote , I don't mind people having an opinion I just don't like when bitches bitch like you do ;)
Oh and I didn't click your link , if you feel like doing some clicking yourself then here is some links for you :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW1dbiD_zDk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjWcwMsm-3M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D4gRq4_aAQ
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