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Posted January 28, 2016
Excellent hand-picked games, 14-day refund policy, always DRM-free.

We want GOG.com to be the home of games that are both excellent and really worth your time.
In today's gaming world, we're seeing more and more titles that become hits before development dwindles down. We want to give you a way to enjoy what these games have to offer, a way that's comfortable and fair to you — the GOG.com way: that means evaluating each and every game, a 14-day no-questions-asked refund policy, and more.




That's why today, we're introducing the first five games in development:
Starbound (-33%)
Ashes of the Singularity (-25%)
Project Zomboid (-40%)
TerraTech (-30%)
The Curious Expedition (-15%)







The GOG.com way.
First and foremost: we're hand-picking only the games we can truly stand behind. Offering a selection of the most promising titles, and those most highly requested on the Community Wishlist, is our way of avoiding bloat and ensuring that every game will be worth your time.

It takes some confidence to discover games that are still being shaped — and to build that trust, every game in development comes with a simple refund policy: 14 days, no questions asked. It doesn't matter if you're having technical issues, if you don't think the game is sufficiently fleshed out, or if it simply doesn't click with you — all games in development can be returned for any reason within 14 days of purchase.

The GOG Galaxy client should also come in handy for games in development. It lets you control updates manually if you want, while the rollback feature allows you to easily restore any earlier version of your game if an update breaks something or makes unwanted changes. For games in development, rollback will also track and create historical snapshots throughout a game's development. That means you can always revisit any point in a game's history — for fun, or for science.






It's your call.
For those of you who prefer to wait for the final release, nothing will change. Once a game leaves active development, we will be making the announcement and giving the newest release proper exposure. Basically, business as usual.






More info.
Surely you have questions. You'll find many of the answers in the <span class="bold">games in development FAQ, including more details on the new refund policy. Our User Agreement has also been expanded to accommodate games in development — check out sections 6.12, 6.13, and 6.14 to find all the new information.




Enjoy your time with games in development!
Post edited January 28, 2016 by Konrad
Posted January 31, 2016
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Niggles: Does this mean there will be no separate gog links (non galaxy) to download the game builds ?
Wait, what? Is GOG removing non-galaxy download links from people's game shelves?
Posted January 31, 2016
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Lodium: Are you actually saying that they shoud remove multiplayer games becuse having them here is making gog not drm free?
It was voted forward by the userbase here, and as i said there simply does not exist any multiplayer games that are drm free as far as i know.
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Breja: I have only pointed out, that GOG promises absolutely no DRM, of any kind, in anything, becuase you claimed they never made such a promise. That is all. That is all I am saying.
Ages ago, I pointed out that an EA game sold here (can't remember which one), actually asked you to agree to a DRM system during installation.
Fanboys shot me down. GOG can do no wrong.
Posted January 31, 2016
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Narushima: Fanboys shot me down. GOG can do no wrong.
Yeah. Unfortuantely GOG does have it's own zealots, who will gladly handwave anything away. After all, "don't like it, don't buy it", right? That's a magic spell that makes all the bad stuff go away.
Posted January 31, 2016
At least don't be like steam, have some sort of quality control and don't allow frauds.
Posted January 31, 2016
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Lodium: Are you actually saying that they shoud remove multiplayer games becuse having them here is making gog not drm free?
It was voted forward by the userbase here, and as i said there simply does not exist any multiplayer games that are drm free as far as i know.
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Breja: No. Was it really so complicated?

I am not arguing this issue. I am not saying that GOG should do this, or that. I am not saying here what's bad, or good. I have long since given up on arguing the issue.

I have only pointed out, that GOG promises absolutely no DRM, of any kind, in anything, becuase you claimed they never made such a promise. That is all. That is all I am saying.

You can draw your own conclusion. Maybe they should remove games with such DRM, maybe they should only rephrase the way they explain "what is GOG". Maybe they should make a new layout all pink with flaming unicorn skulls. I am not making any judgements here, I am just pointing out what GOG is, in fact, promising it's customers.
Not really.
Annyway i understand your argument but i think its nitpicking because people will have difrent ideas of what drm free is, wich is why multiplayer games was left open to a vote/survey.


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Breja: I have only pointed out, that GOG promises absolutely no DRM, of any kind, in anything, becuase you claimed they never made such a promise. That is all. That is all I am saying.
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Narushima: Ages ago, I pointed out that an EA game sold here (can't remember which one), actually asked you to agree to a DRM system during installation.
Fanboys shot me down. GOG can do no wrong.
Sure they can do wrong
but sometimes people will have diffrent ideas about whats wrong and whats not.
Post edited January 31, 2016 by Lodium
Posted January 31, 2016
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Lodium: Are you actually saying that they shoud remove multiplayer games becuse having them here is making gog not drm free?
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Woolytoes: As long they claim to be DRM-Free then yes, then they should remove it. Stop this lies and I have no problem with it.
They just have to truly stand behind their decision.

But as you can see in their post to Tropico 5 they are don't. They keep telling lies:
"Tropico 5 is now available, DRM-free on GOG.com."

Selling DRM-Free is one of their characterstics, why people buy here. That is what makes them unique. If they give that up then I don't see a reason why I should continue to support them. Then I also can buy my Stuff from Steam which has a better client already, tons of more games and is cross platform.

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Lodium: It was voted forward by the userbase here, and as i said there simply does not exist any multiplayer games that are drm free as far as i know.
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Woolytoes: Open your eyes.There are many on GOG already.
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Lodium: The host can shut down just saying.
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Woolytoes: Yes, but the difference is that I'm controlling the host and don't have to rely on someone else.
Its still intrusive for the ones joining the host
it does not help that one can just host yourself.
f you have joined and the host shuts down you have lost all opertunitys for progression , items/gear on the current characters you are playing with

A multiplayer reqiures somone to join you otherwise it woud just be a game with bots and not really a multiplayer game.
Post edited January 31, 2016 by Lodium
Posted January 31, 2016
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jamyskis: The 14-day refund is honestly not enough
Seeing how much time I have to play games I also would have preferred the same 30 day limit as for the released games. But that's not the main problem for me. A game in development should only be bought when it's good enough and worth the money in it's current state. And there's the problem for me.

When a game is in development over a long time or when it changes significantly during the development you may want to test it multiple times. I haven't found a limit how often you can test a game, only a "fair use policy" clause. And it's not clear what this "fair use policy" means. Does it apply when you test too many of the games in development? Or when you test a game too often? Or when you keep too few of the tested games? It's also not clear if you will get a warning that you cannot request a refund for a game before you test it or if the refund is denied without a forewarning after you have spent your money.

I would like to get some clarification about this "fair use policy". As long as it's not clarified I won't risk my money on not getting a refund.
Posted January 31, 2016
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dirtyharry50: I also disapprove greatly of advertising GOG Galaxy as being useful in concert with unfinished software where Galaxy itself is unfinished software. Galaxy should not be promoted like it is ready for prime time when it is not even done yet
... and not even available for all supported game platforms.
Posted January 31, 2016
My man!
Posted January 31, 2016
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JudasIscariot: Ummm there is a rather large label just above the price for each game In Development, the games are marked "In Dev" in the NEW tab, and there is an "In Dev" right next to the game's title in your library :)
And where's the filter to suppress games in development from the games list? ;)

Please GOG, add one!
Posted January 31, 2016
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Breja: I am just pointing out what GOG is, in fact, promising it's customers.
Find me were GOG has ever stated DRM free includes online multiplayer and I will agree with you. The truth is GOG has been very clear on how it defines DRM free, and online multiplayer never found itself in that definition. Just like it does nowhere else. The reality of the situation is people have created there own views of DRM free that don't align with GOG's views, and GOG is partly to blame for this crap.
Posted January 31, 2016
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Breja: I am just pointing out what GOG is, in fact, promising it's customers.
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BKGaming: Find me were GOG has ever stated DRM free includes online multiplayer and I will agree with you.
you won't find any DRMs or other intrusive copy protection in items available at GOG.com.

you won't find any DRMs

any DRMs

any

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be an asshole here, but that statement really does not leave room for interpretation. There is no mention of multiplayer being exempt from that, or anything that would even vaguely suggest so.. If you see a food product that "does not contain any nuts" one is left to assume there are no nuts in the friggin thing, not to start wondering how the company that makes it defines "not containing nuts".

You may be ok with the DRMed multiplayer, and as I said I will not try again to argue the point, we all know how well that goes, but trying to pretend this statement means something other than it means is just flat out wrong.
Post edited January 31, 2016 by Breja
Posted January 31, 2016
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BKGaming: Find me were GOG has ever stated DRM free includes online multiplayer and I will agree with you.
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Breja: you won't find any DRMs

any DRMs

any

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be an asshole here, but that statement really does not leave room for interpretation. There is no mention of multiplayer being exempt from that, or anything that would even vaguely suggest so.. If you see a food product that "does not contain any nuts" one is left to assume there are no nuts in the friggin thing, not to start wondering how the company that makes it defines "not containing nuts".

You may be ok with the DRMed multiplayer, and as I said I will not try again to argue the point, we all know how well that goes, but trying to pretend this statement means something other than it means is just flat out wrong.
And define DRM? The only issue here is there are many many competing definitions of DRM and GOG does not clearly define what they view as DRM. You may think you know what DRM is but somebody else might see it differently. Where as you clearly know what a nut is and so do I, because it's clearly defined what a nut is.

This why I say GOG is partly to blame, GOG needs to come out and say this is how we define DRM free and this is what we consider DRM free. Then people will accept it or move on.
Posted January 31, 2016
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yogsloth: Oh good, the fully optional client is required to manage the new GOG greenlight games.
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BKGaming: I don't think you understand the definition of required... is it helpful? Sure. It's in no way required, the same as it isn't for finished buggy ass games we have now.
As far as I understand Thiev in this post older versions of a game in development are not available as downloads but only through Galaxy. So Galaxy seems to be required when you want to switch back to an older game version in case of a problem.
Posted January 31, 2016
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BKGaming: I don't think you understand the definition of required... is it helpful? Sure. It's in no way required, the same as it isn't for finished buggy ass games we have now.
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eiii: As far as I understand Thiev in this post older versions of a game in development are not available as downloads but only through Galaxy. So Galaxy seems to be required when you want to switch back to an older game version in case of a problem.
Then hold onto the old installers when you install a new version? It's really not required... as it I said it's just slightly more helpful.
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