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Posted January 28, 2016
Excellent hand-picked games, 14-day refund policy, always DRM-free.

We want GOG.com to be the home of games that are both excellent and really worth your time.
In today's gaming world, we're seeing more and more titles that become hits before development dwindles down. We want to give you a way to enjoy what these games have to offer, a way that's comfortable and fair to you — the GOG.com way: that means evaluating each and every game, a 14-day no-questions-asked refund policy, and more.




That's why today, we're introducing the first five games in development:
Starbound (-33%)
Ashes of the Singularity (-25%)
Project Zomboid (-40%)
TerraTech (-30%)
The Curious Expedition (-15%)







The GOG.com way.
First and foremost: we're hand-picking only the games we can truly stand behind. Offering a selection of the most promising titles, and those most highly requested on the Community Wishlist, is our way of avoiding bloat and ensuring that every game will be worth your time.

It takes some confidence to discover games that are still being shaped — and to build that trust, every game in development comes with a simple refund policy: 14 days, no questions asked. It doesn't matter if you're having technical issues, if you don't think the game is sufficiently fleshed out, or if it simply doesn't click with you — all games in development can be returned for any reason within 14 days of purchase.

The GOG Galaxy client should also come in handy for games in development. It lets you control updates manually if you want, while the rollback feature allows you to easily restore any earlier version of your game if an update breaks something or makes unwanted changes. For games in development, rollback will also track and create historical snapshots throughout a game's development. That means you can always revisit any point in a game's history — for fun, or for science.






It's your call.
For those of you who prefer to wait for the final release, nothing will change. Once a game leaves active development, we will be making the announcement and giving the newest release proper exposure. Basically, business as usual.






More info.
Surely you have questions. You'll find many of the answers in the <span class="bold">games in development FAQ, including more details on the new refund policy. Our User Agreement has also been expanded to accommodate games in development — check out sections 6.12, 6.13, and 6.14 to find all the new information.




Enjoy your time with games in development!
Post edited January 28, 2016 by Konrad
Posted January 28, 2016
I like this! It will open up for a ton of great games that previously were limited to Steam for years.
Posted January 28, 2016
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gibbeynator: So, what happens when the 14-day refund period expires and the game eventually turns into vaporware?
Might I suggest; not buying a game that is still in development unless you can make peace with that possibility?
Posted January 28, 2016
So GOG gets a version of Early Access that might actually have the potential to NOT be a wasteland like it is on Steam?

I can dig.
Posted January 28, 2016
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gibbeynator: So, what happens when the 14-day refund period expires and the game eventually turns into vaporware?
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Darling_Jimmy: Might I suggest; not buying a game that is still in development unless you can make peace with that possibility?
Might I suggest that does not actually answer anything?

Might I suggest we drop the pathetic "don't like, don't buy it" defence? Seriously, it's the most hopeless "argument" for anything ever. Don't like it? Don't watch/read/buy/listen to it. That's not an argument for anything. That doesn't address anything. When there are legitimate issues raised, they need to ba actually addressed, not handwaved away with a fifthgraders idea of a witty retort.

A 14 day refund period for a game that might as well never actually see release is a publicity stunt, not a viable safety measure for the customer.
Post edited January 28, 2016 by Breja
Posted January 28, 2016
Hmm, I have mixed feelings about this. I hope it will not somehow disrupt other aspects of the store. On the other hand, it could bring new games here.
Posted January 28, 2016
Well, this is certainly a big step for GOG. I understand people who like it and those who are against it, i won't say this is good or bad, i'm just gonna wait and see how it develops. I guess they had to make this move at some point in order to bring more games and to keep up with other digital stores.
Posted January 28, 2016
I'll say: why not. Welcome to GOG, 'in development' games :-)
Posted January 28, 2016
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Breja: When there are legitimate issues raised
Such as?
Posted January 28, 2016
I feel a lot of people seem to buy Early Access games in order to get a good game in the future. That's a bad idea, IMO. Only pay money for content that'd you'd feel comfortable purchasing now. Hoping for some nebulous "completed" game in the future is not a good idea to purchase stuff now. If you really want to play it, buy it, play it for 14 days to see if it's at a complete enough state for you, and then return it if you don't like it. Otherwise, wait for release, assuming it has one.

The only thing I'm worried about is the time and effort it takes to keep GiD from not sucking as bad as Early Access will take time from getting other complete games that are good and highly requested, but I don't know how GOG operates internally so I could be talking out of my ass here.
Posted January 28, 2016
I'll be honest, when Marcin Iwinski said "If you would do it, it would have to have some kind of protection," I was expecting a little bit more than GOG's 'curation' cherrypicking and a 14 day refund

The refund looks nice but doesn't give you any protection from failed/abandoned projects unless you happened to have purchased it in the last 14 days, which is not likely with projects that can last years.

I don't see any expectations/requirements put on the developers, at least not in the FAQ or mentioned in the announcement posts.

Expectations aside, I have no problem with the EA program(s). People just need to learn to stay away from it if you don't want to take risks.
Post edited January 28, 2016 by Pheace
Posted January 28, 2016
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Darling_Jimmy: Might I suggest; not buying a game that is still in development unless you can make peace with that possibility?
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Breja: Might I suggest that does not actually answer anything?

Might I suggest we drop the pathetic "don't like, don't buy it" defence? Seriously, it's the most hopeless "argument" for anything ever. Don't like it? Don't watch/read/buy/listen to it. That's not an argument for anything. That doesn't address anything. When there are legitimate issues raised, they need to ba actually addressed, not handwaved away with a fifthgraders idea of a witty retort.

A 14 day refund period for a game that might as well never actually see release is a publicity stunt, not a viable safety measure for the customer.
Actually, a 14 day refund policy with the other stated "benefits" is sufficient.

You purchase the "INDEV" game, you play it for however long (up to 14 days). Before you hit the 14 day mark, if you feel it's NOT worth the money you paid for it as it stands RIGHT NOW, then you refund it.

At that point, you're safe. 'Cause no matter what they do to the game after that point, GoG Galaxy allows you to roll back to any prior patch, so you'll always have access to the product you bought that you felt was worth the buy in for the product as it stood when you paid for it.

The only thing necessary is for individuals to evaluate products AS THEY STAND instead of what they COULD BE.

TL;DR Don't be a fool.
Posted January 28, 2016
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Breja: When there are legitimate issues raised
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Darling_Jimmy: Such as?
It's fun going in circles, isn't it? Wheeee.
Posted January 28, 2016
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DeathArcanum: I wish I could say I support this, but seeing this play out before on Steam (Starbound being a game that's been in EA for over TWO YEARS) is something I feel will not succeed at all.
I don't get this mentality, so what Starbound has been in EA for a while. From what I heard they are still working on it with updates coming every few months, even redesigning major parts of the game. I'd much rather a game stay in EA for 2 or hell even 5 years then the alternative of a game releasing to early from EA and then being completely dropped.

The time it takes doesn't matter, what matters is if they are clearly making progress at a steady pace and aren't getting it to a complete state just to be in a complete state. My 2 cents..
Post edited January 28, 2016 by user deleted
Posted January 28, 2016
Again many people fail to see, that GOG has to develop itself. If you would have own company, I'm sure you wouldn't want to be smashed by competition. GOG is in the same position. Early Access is just another step - most important it isn't DRM based, so what's the problem? If you don't like Early Access, fine, you don't have to participate. At all.

The fact is that Early Access initiative is a part of video games industry, whether you like it or not. EAcc is really helpful for the devs, who really need money for making games. There will always be scammers in the world, so we - the customers - should always be cautious and concious of the risk. I've bought only two EAcc games to date (The Long Dark and Besiege) and I'm very pleased. I bought already good games and supported talented, honest people.
Posted January 28, 2016
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cpd0611: TL;DR Don't be a fool.
Why, thank you Mr.T.

The problem is "as it stands" the product is not finished. It may look like something that will be fun once it's done, so I don't ask for a refund and then... it's never actually done. But the 14 days have come and gone long since. Well, I guess I have no one but myself to blame! I was a fool to buy on GOG without being clairvoyant. SIlly me.
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