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Posted January 28, 2016
Excellent hand-picked games, 14-day refund policy, always DRM-free.

We want GOG.com to be the home of games that are both excellent and really worth your time.
In today's gaming world, we're seeing more and more titles that become hits before development dwindles down. We want to give you a way to enjoy what these games have to offer, a way that's comfortable and fair to you — the GOG.com way: that means evaluating each and every game, a 14-day no-questions-asked refund policy, and more.




That's why today, we're introducing the first five games in development:
Starbound (-33%)
Ashes of the Singularity (-25%)
Project Zomboid (-40%)
TerraTech (-30%)
The Curious Expedition (-15%)







The GOG.com way.
First and foremost: we're hand-picking only the games we can truly stand behind. Offering a selection of the most promising titles, and those most highly requested on the Community Wishlist, is our way of avoiding bloat and ensuring that every game will be worth your time.

It takes some confidence to discover games that are still being shaped — and to build that trust, every game in development comes with a simple refund policy: 14 days, no questions asked. It doesn't matter if you're having technical issues, if you don't think the game is sufficiently fleshed out, or if it simply doesn't click with you — all games in development can be returned for any reason within 14 days of purchase.

The GOG Galaxy client should also come in handy for games in development. It lets you control updates manually if you want, while the rollback feature allows you to easily restore any earlier version of your game if an update breaks something or makes unwanted changes. For games in development, rollback will also track and create historical snapshots throughout a game's development. That means you can always revisit any point in a game's history — for fun, or for science.






It's your call.
For those of you who prefer to wait for the final release, nothing will change. Once a game leaves active development, we will be making the announcement and giving the newest release proper exposure. Basically, business as usual.






More info.
Surely you have questions. You'll find many of the answers in the <span class="bold">games in development FAQ, including more details on the new refund policy. Our User Agreement has also been expanded to accommodate games in development — check out sections 6.12, 6.13, and 6.14 to find all the new information.




Enjoy your time with games in development!
Post edited January 28, 2016 by Konrad
Posted January 28, 2016
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Would you buy an unfinished car?
Would you watch an unfinished movie?
Would you fuck an unfinished wife?

Just joking. Have fun beta-testing for my pleasure everybody.
If some of those survival sims with coop multiplayer appears here, though...
Posted January 28, 2016
This looks like a really interesting and cool move, thank you, GOG! :-)
Posted January 28, 2016
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FiatLux: No people will not get any kind of refund .
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IronArcturus: And this is the problem right here. If the game is left in a permanently unfinished state for months on end, and GOG customers cannot get a refund after 2 weeks, then how will this be beneficial to anyone?
As I see it, the advantage of the GOG version is that you have this option:

Buy. Play for 2 weeks. Return. Buy again on release if you liked it.
Posted January 28, 2016
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lostwolfe: HAVE YOU GUYS HEARD ABOUT SPACEBASE DF-9!?

IT'S SO AWESOME!

I TOTALLY TRUST TIM SCHAFER.

YOU SHOULD BRING THAT GAME HERE!!1!!11!!!

OR THAT THING THOSE YOGSCAST PEOPLE MADE!!1!

I'M PLAYING IT NOW IT'S SO AMAZING!

this is my big worry with an "early access" program.
That's not a problem with the 'early access' program though

That's a problem with blind fanboyism.

If you still trust Tim Schafer and Double Fine after all the evidence that they have no idea how to run a company and are all over 10 years past their development prime, then that's a problem on YOU, not on GoG

Why should GoG and GoG users miss out on a bunch of cool games in development just because fanboys will blindly throw money away?
Post edited January 28, 2016 by TheTome56
Posted January 28, 2016
I'm not too happy about this. This sounds like Steam early access and we all know how shit that is. But I guess thats the trend now. I only buy games that are finished, so I hope this goes away.
Posted January 28, 2016
"Games In Development"

super catchy.

surely in all the words the language thingy there was a better combination than this.

Games On-Going? On-Going Games? GOG On-Going? THERE MUST HAVE BEEN SOMETHING!
Posted January 28, 2016
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Regional Discriminating Prices, Steam look-a-like client (galaxy), Games in Development (Early Access), Pre-orders.

Read the writing on the wall, DRM will come in time.
Post edited January 28, 2016 by robertgg
Posted January 28, 2016
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Dwarden: as long as GOG keeps pressure on game developers to deliver
* quality (game can be finished and enjoyed)
* playable (basic features complete)
* content rich (aka not plain cash grab)

also there shall be clear rules if someone tries to abuse the system (public de-listing)
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IronArcturus: This is why I think a timeline would be beneficial. On the game card, there should be some kind of message that says when the game is expected to be completed.
The problem with this is there usually isn't an expected date and even if there was, it is more than likely that date will not be met. Then what? Offer refunds if it misses the date (might as well not sell it at all because no dev will go for that). Pull the game from the store if it missed the date?

Early access has always meant that you take a risk of spending money on a uncompleted game. A game that may have many bugs/unfinished content/etc. It also means that the game can be in that state for a very long time (see Starbound). The definition has not changed simply because GoG is carrying early access titles now.

I once again laugh at the word 'curated'. We don't like your finished game because it's too niche but here, buy this other game that's unfinished, has bugs and who knows when it's end date is. LOL
Post edited January 28, 2016 by synfresh
Posted January 28, 2016
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Maxvorstadt: It`s sad news. Incomplete crippleware comes to GoG. RIP complete games.
Indeed. it's not a good thing for the artistic side of gaming or good for its integrity.

http://gamerant.com/steam-early-access-games-completion-issues/

http://www.pcgamer.com/only-25-percent-of-early-access-games-have-made-it-to-full-release-eedar-says/
Posted January 28, 2016
Sounds like the worst idea ever. I don't have even time to play the (complete) games I own.
Still, good to have the option for those want this.
Posted January 28, 2016
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Zojokkeli: Something.. something.. Torment. I was tempted about Steam Early Access, but decided to wait for the full version on GOG. That said, I'll buy it instantly if you release it under development.
I was so excited when I saw this when I went on GOG especially since Torment just got put on Early Access on Steam.

Posted this in another topic but I feel even more relevant here-

Well, from skimming the topics on steam forum, i don't think the game is quite polished enough for GOG's version of early access [yet]. I think GOG generally will have a higher standard for that kind of thing.

I want the game to be on GOGs early development thing myself. I was going to probably buy the game on steam cause they let you refund games if your pc doesn't meet the requirements, (I have integrated graphics) unlike GOGs refund policy. However, if the game gets on GOG's version of Early Access I can refund the game if it doesn't work and generally prefer buying games DRM free.
Posted January 28, 2016
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Seriously? Did you actually decide to bring this “early access” plague to GOG? And among the games you introduced first is Starbound, the game is in “early access” for how many years now?
Posted January 28, 2016
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rtcvb32: If i were GoG I'd have a few additional rules for games being picked.

1) Core mechanics are complete; And just needs a little more polish before it's ready (be it more music, more graphics, a little more story, more items, etc)
2) The game is expected to be finished in 6 months or less
3) The Devs aren't going to quit development and leave it in an incomplete state.

If these were the rules, i'd fully support the games in development movement.
Without being a psychic, how would you ensure #3?
Post edited January 28, 2016 by amok
Posted January 28, 2016
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TheTome56: That's not a problem with the 'early access' program though

That's a problem with blind fanboyism.

If you still trust Tim Schafer and Double Fine after all the evidence that they have no idea how to run a company and are all over 10 years past their development prime, then that's a problem on YOU, not on GoG

Why should GoG and GoG users miss out on a bunch of cool games in development just because fanboys will blindly throw money away?
oh. i agree. blind fanboyism /did/ give us spacebase df-9.

but i'm attempting to highlight "big" early access failures/crowdfunding failures, because at least that way people who are on the fence can go and read up about them and see that early access is a hit and miss prospect.

besides - and on the other hand - if "big name" guys like that can build something, shrug and just abandon it, imagine what's going to happen with smaller scale developers who don't actually have that built-in fanboyism and the willingness to just fork over money for appearing on youtube saying "hey, you liked monkey island! i was sort of responsible for that! give me your money and i'll make something else like it! maybe."

early access sometimes works out [like with kerbal space program] and you know what? i kind of liked that situation better - where gog would wait until something came out of early access, was complete and picked it up and then sold it.

in any event, i'm not sure that complaining is going to make this change or stop. there isn't /nearly/ as much pushback on this as there was with the regional pricing fiasco [which got slipped in sort of under the table, anyway.]

so...have fun with your betas that you're paying for, i guess?
Posted January 28, 2016
There was once a time where people got paid to test games...now people are eager for paying testing (if its not finished you can't real play it) those games...strange world.
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