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Posted January 28, 2016
Excellent hand-picked games, 14-day refund policy, always DRM-free.

We want GOG.com to be the home of games that are both excellent and really worth your time.
In today's gaming world, we're seeing more and more titles that become hits before development dwindles down. We want to give you a way to enjoy what these games have to offer, a way that's comfortable and fair to you — the GOG.com way: that means evaluating each and every game, a 14-day no-questions-asked refund policy, and more.




That's why today, we're introducing the first five games in development:
Starbound (-33%)
Ashes of the Singularity (-25%)
Project Zomboid (-40%)
TerraTech (-30%)
The Curious Expedition (-15%)







The GOG.com way.
First and foremost: we're hand-picking only the games we can truly stand behind. Offering a selection of the most promising titles, and those most highly requested on the Community Wishlist, is our way of avoiding bloat and ensuring that every game will be worth your time.

It takes some confidence to discover games that are still being shaped — and to build that trust, every game in development comes with a simple refund policy: 14 days, no questions asked. It doesn't matter if you're having technical issues, if you don't think the game is sufficiently fleshed out, or if it simply doesn't click with you — all games in development can be returned for any reason within 14 days of purchase.

The GOG Galaxy client should also come in handy for games in development. It lets you control updates manually if you want, while the rollback feature allows you to easily restore any earlier version of your game if an update breaks something or makes unwanted changes. For games in development, rollback will also track and create historical snapshots throughout a game's development. That means you can always revisit any point in a game's history — for fun, or for science.






It's your call.
For those of you who prefer to wait for the final release, nothing will change. Once a game leaves active development, we will be making the announcement and giving the newest release proper exposure. Basically, business as usual.






More info.
Surely you have questions. You'll find many of the answers in the <span class="bold">games in development FAQ, including more details on the new refund policy. Our User Agreement has also been expanded to accommodate games in development — check out sections 6.12, 6.13, and 6.14 to find all the new information.




Enjoy your time with games in development!
Post edited January 28, 2016 by Konrad
Posted January 28, 2016
No.
NO.
NO.
Bad GoG.

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Post edited January 28, 2016 by Plokite_Wolf
Posted January 28, 2016
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amok: Hey - this means I can start spaming the forum with Clockwork Empires again!

Vote for it here - http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/clockwork_empires
Am I the only one surprised that Dungeons of Dredmor hasn't made it here yet?
Posted January 28, 2016
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OK. I really really don't agree with that move. It seems that GoG don't mind anymore the ethical problem that is to sell to customers an unfinished product.

The argument that "it will help developers to make the game better" don't stand a bit. It is just a way to make money during a developpement that will be stopped when the game is totally sold.

We all know that is that kind of things that is tearing apart the whole video game industry, and finally the players.

Are you really allow people to make reviews of unfinished product ?

Starbound is in "early access" for years now. It's already sold, ten times to its players. The developpement of Terratech seems really chaotic with already an unfinished DLC you can buy for a discounted price.

It's just crazy.
Posted January 28, 2016
Not that it matters, but I'm okay with this. Plenty of people seem to have forgotten that GOG isn't Steam. Similar functionality also won't make them Steam. It's all about quality control, and there's plenty of that to be found here. As long as GOG keeps that up, everything will be fine.
Post edited January 28, 2016 by DrRoxo
Posted January 28, 2016
To those saying this is a bad idea and comparing it to Steam early access, I don't think that comparison is valid. GOG has said that only few hand picked titles will be allowed in which implies some level of curation that Steam Early Access lacks imo. I can understand why 14 day refund may be useless in some cases like DayZ one where one has no idea when buying into it that it will be like that.
Posted January 28, 2016
I'm not against the idea of anyone selling games still in development (for those willing to live with an unfinished product, it may allow some degree of feedback into the game's further development, and the early cash may actually help the developer get the game finished), but I need a decent discount to make it worth my while, and a guaranteed refund if the game never reaches its intended finished state, regardless of how long ago I paid for it.
Post edited January 28, 2016 by mvscot
Posted January 28, 2016
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Matruchus: Im still interested how the patching for non galaxy versions is going to work? I asked that before but no blue answered yet. The thing with early access games is that you can expect one patch a week if not more (if they are serious with game development). This works fine for galaxy but how will this work for the other game version.
Yeah, this could be a pain for non-Galaxy users.
Posted January 28, 2016
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Narakir: As long this early access gets well curated as the rest I won't mind.
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haydenaurion: Same here.
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Ragnarblackmane: That was my first reaction, too. Their development team has shown disrespect to players and the gaming community in general. It's a very dubious choice.
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haydenaurion: What's the story behind this? Got any links?
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froggygraphics: Unfortunately, those of you who are saying they wish to wait for games to be released,
and think early access is bad are missing the current state of gaming.

For instance I give you Heroes of might and Magic VII, a fully released game. Multiple patches,
andy many still cannot even run it.

So the question is, anymore whats the difference? What is finished?

All these games released today are more stable and have more game play,
than many games that are called finished by the developers and sold as version 1.0.
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haydenaurion: A good point considering the state of AAA releases these days.
There was a lot of stuff posted a couple years ago, have to search through archives. But essentially the game's in development hell and none of the team seems inclined to explain further what they intend, just roll out updates which don't address key issues that players have apparently asked about for years.
At least lately that seems to have changed.
Posted January 28, 2016
"... we want to give you a way to enjoy what these games have to offer, a way that's comfortable and fair to you — the GOG.com way: that means evaluating each and every game, a 14-day no-questions-asked refund policy, and more. "

"The GOG.com way.
First and foremost: we're hand-picking only the games we can truly stand behind. Offering a selection of the most promising titles, and those most highly requested on the Community Wishlist, is our way of avoiding bloat and ensuring that every game will be worth your time."

"It takes some confidence to discover games that are still being shaped — and to build that trust, every game in development comes with a simple refund policy: 14 days, no questions asked. It doesn't matter if you're having technical issues, if you don't think the game is sufficiently fleshed out, or if it simply doesn't click with you — all games in development can be returned for any reason within 14 days of purchase."

"It's your call.
For those of you who prefer to wait for the final release, nothing will change. Once a game leaves active development, we will be making the announcement and giving the newest release proper exposure. Basically, business as usual."

Isn't it kinda sad how heavily the GOG staff needs to repeat and emphasize these points, just so the GOG forum crowd won't lose their shit over this new store feature? ( Which they'll, of course, do anyway. It's some sort of tradition. )

Call me crazy, but this seems like an all around positive development. As long as they only pick quality projects, which have already proven their potential, and don't flood the site with all kinds of broken garbage. Some of these games are already very popular, even in their unfinished state, and now non-Steam users finally get the opportunity to try them.

More support and a new audience for the developers of good games, more cash for GOG, and more games and options for the customers/gamers. And worst case, those not interested in unfinished games can simply ignore these releases. Much Win all around! Huzzah!
Post edited January 28, 2016 by CharlesGrey
Posted January 28, 2016
I'm not buying any single early access game at all.

I do not trust anyone even proven developers when it comes to selling me an incomplete product.

I am still waiting for Black Mesa to fully release on Steam, its still in early access and they have not finished the Xen levels yet.


Games in Development/Early Access should not be behind a paywall. They should at least give us a temporary free trial for a Beta/Alpha at least.
Posted January 28, 2016
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mvscot: A guaranteed refund if the game never reaches its intended finished state, regardless of how long ago I paid for it.
Not happening, devs could just push out a final patch and call it 1.0.
Posted January 28, 2016
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CharlesGrey:
At least I can always moniter these games. I don't want GOG getting games like Day One: Garry's Incident or Guise of the Wolf.
Posted January 28, 2016
So, Steam has Greenlight and GOG has Games in Development (GiD?)

Interesting.
Posted January 28, 2016
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Matruchus: And so early access arrives to gog :) Well, Ashes of Singularity looks definitely a game I would like. Does this work without Galaxy or is it mandatory for gog early access games?
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hedwards: That's my thought, GOG has truly sold out here. PZ is a good game, but what ever happened to waiting for games to be completed before deciding to bring them here? And what happens if the developers half-ass it after they're in? Or the game doesn't turn out as intended?
Yeah, but people complain that games are half-assed even when they are fully released products anyway.

Look at Evolve, Star Wars Battlefront and anything Creative Assembly's done in the past 4 years.

For some people, there will never be enough content no matter how much was developed. At least In Development games are being completely honest that they aren't finished yet
Post edited January 28, 2016 by TheTome56
Posted January 28, 2016
ohhh damn this will cause a shitstorm here:D
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