Posted July 27, 2017
muntdefems
How appropriate. You fight like a cow.
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From Poland
my name is catte
i touch your foods
my name is catte Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Mar 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted July 27, 2017
Well exactly, it's been almost two months since the "We're migrating" message appeared. What was weird was that it went down for a short while supposedly for server migration and then came back apparently migrated. Then it went down again with the message that was there for about two months. Maybe the first one really was a server migration, but why would you be doing that if you were about to go under?
Breja
You're in my spot
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From Poland
Posted July 28, 2017
It's dead, Jim.
A pity. There were a few games there I'm not sure are available DRM-free otherwise I didn't get in time.
A pity. There were a few games there I'm not sure are available DRM-free otherwise I didn't get in time.
my name is catte
i touch your foods
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Azrael360
Fuck China, Israel, Russia and Cancer.
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From Chile
Posted July 28, 2017
It's quite sad, I got good deals for good games on that site. It's a shame that now it doesn't load at all and/or permanently down.
R.I.P. IndieGameStand :(
R.I.P. IndieGameStand :(
Placio74
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From Poland
Posted November 12, 2017
SidAlpha has just posted a video: Indie Game Stand Potential theft of Consumer Funds and Game Keys
Recently the Key sales site Indie Game Stand was taken down for what they reported to be a server migration. However, the site has remained down for months. Now, consumers are still being charged for the subscription fees to a defunct web site and the keys provided for sale by multiple Game Developers are being resold on the Kinguin grey market site.
my name is catte
i touch your foods
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From United Kingdom
Posted November 14, 2017
Placio74: SidAlpha has just posted a video: Indie Game Stand Potential theft of Consumer Funds and Game Keys
Recently the Key sales site Indie Game Stand was taken down for what they reported to be a server migration. However, the site has remained down for months. Now, consumers are still being charged for the subscription fees to a defunct web site and the keys provided for sale by multiple Game Developers are being resold on the Kinguin grey market site.
Placio74:
Woah, super shady.Recently the Key sales site Indie Game Stand was taken down for what they reported to be a server migration. However, the site has remained down for months. Now, consumers are still being charged for the subscription fees to a defunct web site and the keys provided for sale by multiple Game Developers are being resold on the Kinguin grey market site.
muntdefems
How appropriate. You fight like a cow.
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PaterAlf
Cookie Monster
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From Christmas Island
Posted November 15, 2017
At least there is a statement now. I wonder why it took them so long to write it. Doesn't seem like they really care for their customers.
muntdefems
How appropriate. You fight like a cow.
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amok
FREEEEDOOOM!!!!
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From United Kingdom
Posted November 15, 2017
muntdefems: And this is the way IGS ends. Not with a bang but a simple HTML page.
PS: LOL, look how much they valued DRM-freedom that they didn't even mention GOG in the ending note...
why should they? they sold keys and DRM free games themselves, and gOg do not provide any keys for third party sale (with a very few exceptions). PS: LOL, look how much they valued DRM-freedom that they didn't even mention GOG in the ending note...
Each of the sites they mention are those that use the exact same model, i.e. bundles and PWYW sales. again, gOg do not provide either.
muntdefems
How appropriate. You fight like a cow.
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From Poland
Posted November 15, 2017
amok: why should they? they sold keys and DRM free games themselves, and gOg do not provide any keys for third party sale (with a very few exceptions).
This has not always been the case. At first, way before they opened the IGS store, their thing was 4-day PWYW deals for a DRM-free game. There was some uproar in their forum the first time they offered a Steam-only deal, in which one of the site founders went as far as suggesting that those who demanded DRM-free games (something they did promise and advertise on their front page at that time) only did so in order to distribute them as pirate copies. Great times. :) You're right, that list is totally in line with what their business model turned into some time afterwards.
amok
FREEEEDOOOM!!!!
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From United Kingdom
Posted November 15, 2017
amok: why should they? they sold keys and DRM free games themselves, and gOg do not provide any keys for third party sale (with a very few exceptions).
muntdefems: This has not always been the case. At first, way before they opened the IGS store, their thing was 4-day PWYW deals for a DRM-free game. There was some uproar in their forum the first time they offered a Steam-only deal, in which one of the site founders went as far as suggesting that those who demanded DRM-free games (something they did promise and advertise on their front page at that time) only did so in order to distribute them as pirate copies. Great times. :) The main business model was always PWYW
muntdefems
How appropriate. You fight like a cow.
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From Poland
Posted November 15, 2017
amok: The PWYW model was the main point, always. The games that where DRM free only was just due to not being on Steam to start with, so it was more DRM free by accident than thorough design (and I do not recall if it ever was a requirement). When a game was sold there that was on Steam, it had both DRM free build and a Steam key. Games that got through Greenlight got keys added later. The uproar was.... not so big in my memory.
As I said, it really was one of their selling points that the games offered in their deals were DRM-free--having a Desura or Steam key (and sometimes even a GOG key too) was a plus. That is, until they weren't always DRM-free anymore and they changed how they advertised their site. Luckily I kept a screen grab from before they changed it. I have it on my home computer, I can post it later tonight.
About the uproar, I never talked about its size. :P
That's how things turned out, yes, as confirmed in the post-mortem message displayed at their main page now. But it seems to me they definitely wanted, and tried, to change it: by opening the IGS store, by creating the (Elite?) subscription model.
Anyway, it was never my intention to question or discuss these things. It's only that I still had that DRM-free thorn in my side and I felt like aiming a final jab at them.
my name is catte
i touch your foods
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From United Kingdom
Posted November 15, 2017
:/
Would have been nice of them to do a Shinyloot and give us a chance to do a final backup.
Would have been nice of them to do a Shinyloot and give us a chance to do a final backup.