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Hello,

and best wishes for new year !

I'm currently looking for what reminds me of my influences in medieval Fantasy genre, which means generic Fantasy with traditionnal elves and dwarves and barbarians and knights and wizards fighting monsters, crawling dungeons etc, with no "original" twists or very weird races, and no weird planes stuff like D&D, something like Lodoss novels (and anime I guess, at least the old series) , early "Dark Eye" and most Fighting Fantasy book; Tolkienish Fantasy you can say but not just Tolkien.
Also I really don't care for realistic female armors. (I'm female so no, this is not fanservice problem, it's the old school 80's, 90's vibe of it that I enjoy.)

I'm looking for video games but I'll take tabletop RPGs suggestions, really anything you would think of.

For example right now I'm trying to play the old Realms of Arkania games, they're totally in the mood, but not easy to handle :)

(I don't consider Dragon Age, Elder Scrolls, Baldur's Gate, Witcher, to be in that mood totally, doesn't mean they aren't good games, just that they're not what I'm looking for ATM. Although the very old Elder Scrolls like Arena and Daggerfall may fit in, I'm not sure )
I'm slightly confused... I would consider Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale to be pretty much as vanilla-fantasy as you can get. Planescape: Torment, not so much, that obviously is heavily based on the "planes stuff".
Post edited January 01, 2021 by Maighstir
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Maighstir: I'm slightly confused... I would consider Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale to be pretty much as vanilla-fantasy as you can get.
i follow in confusion, though maybe my mom would understand, with our house in the 90's filled with books from Eddings, Tolkien, Brooks, Jordan, Weis and Hickman, Vance, Lee ( Tanith ) May ( Julian ) of which i read most. Maybe it is the American take on fantasy that is slightly off putting here?

dnd feels as it is almost the uhm peak of all fantasy combined.....

i presume my usual recommendation of Warhammer 2 total war, would also fail. Heroes of Might 7 maybe? or Heroes of Migth and Magic III Remastered since this is available on GoG ?
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Maighstir: I'm slightly confused... I would consider Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale to be pretty much as vanilla-fantasy as you can get. Planescape: Torment, not so much, that obviously is heavily based on the "planes stuff".
Maybe I was more thinking to BG2 which has nearly Sci-Fantasy setting from the start.
As for BG1 and IWD (I had forgotten about IWD actually) they may be more classic, but I should have mentionned that to me Forgotten Realms is somewhat less old-school than Mystara or Greyhawk . Could just be that I only discovered those games on the late also.
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Maighstir: I'm slightly confused... I would consider Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale to be pretty much as vanilla-fantasy as you can get.
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Radiance1979: i follow in confusion, though maybe my mom would understand, with our house in the 90's filled with books from Eddings, Tolkien, Brooks, Jordan, Weis and Hickman, Vance, Lee ( Tanith ) May ( Julian ) of which i read most. Maybe it is the American take on fantasy that is slightly off putting here?

dnd feels as it is almost the uhm peak of all fantasy combined.....

i presume my usual recommendation of Warhammer 2 total war, would also fail. Heroes of Might 7 maybe? or Heroes of Migth and Magic III Remastered since this is available on GoG ?
I didn't think of it but could come from country (well, continent) gap ? I'm european. Warhammer Fantasy was great, loved the Warhammer quest games ! Maybe Total War would work (since I think it's not Age of Sigmar yet) but I think it's pretty costly ? HoM is also good idea, would you able to tell me which ones have no Sci-Fi elements at all ? I can never remember...

(Also, Tanith Lee had such wonderful talent for stories :) Dragonlance books by Weis and Hickmanwere also kinda "classic" feeling I think, at least the first saga ! )
Post edited January 01, 2021 by Melandrhild
Based on you liking Realms of Arkania and the Dragonlance books, what about these then?

https://www.gog.com/game/drakensang
https://www.gog.com/game/dungeons_dragons_krynn_series
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Leroux: Based on you liking Realms of Arkania and the Dragonlance books, what about these then?

https://www.gog.com/game/drakensang
https://www.gog.com/game/dungeons_dragons_krynn_series
Sounds like a good idea to play more Dark Eye ! As for Dragonlance, looks very old but there is so little Dragonlance video games that it makes it hard to be picky !
Thanks for suggestions !
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Maighstir: I'm slightly confused... I would consider Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale to be pretty much as vanilla-fantasy as you can get. Planescape: Torment, not so much, that obviously is heavily based on the "planes stuff".
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Melandrhild: Maybe I was more thinking to BG2 which has nearly Sci-Fantasy setting from the start.
As for BG1 and IWD (I had forgotten about IWD actually) they may be more classic, but I should have mentionned that to me Forgotten Realms is somewhat less old-school than Mystara or Greyhawk . Could just be that I only discovered those games on the late also.
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Radiance1979: i follow in confusion, though maybe my mom would understand, with our house in the 90's filled with books from Eddings, Tolkien, Brooks, Jordan, Weis and Hickman, Vance, Lee ( Tanith ) May ( Julian ) of which i read most. Maybe it is the American take on fantasy that is slightly off putting here?

dnd feels as it is almost the uhm peak of all fantasy combined.....

i presume my usual recommendation of Warhammer 2 total war, would also fail. Heroes of Might 7 maybe? or Heroes of Migth and Magic III Remastered since this is available on GoG ?
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Melandrhild: I didn't think of it but could come from country (well, continent) gap ? I'm european. Warhammer Fantasy was great, loved the Warhammer quest games ! Maybe Total War would work (since I think it's not Age of Sigmar yet) but I think it's pretty costly ? HoM is also good idea, would you able to tell me which ones have no Sci-Fi elements at all ? I can never remember...

(Also, Tanith Lee had such wonderful talent for stories :) Dragonlance books by Weis and Hickmanwere also kinda "classic" feeling I think, at least the first saga ! )
All heroes of might and magic games are pretty much without any sci fi elements. Of those games i belief part 3 and 5 are best received.
Age of Wonders III might be yet another good example but, that that one expects of the player to be an aggressive expansionist.... As does Endless Legends btw. if that suits you i would certainly recommend both of those games since they have a fairly original fantasy setting, nice music and beautiful worlds ( though endless now i think of it does contain some SF parts )

The total war games are not cheap. With current winter sale going on i belief you can find the first game of the warhammer series going for 15 euro's and the second game for 20 euro's. Both games are based on the ' Old World ' and both games give you access to 4 different races. The first one has its focus on the Chaos invasion and the second pits you for control of some ancient access portal. Owning both games gives you access to a new campaign that combines both the old and the new world. Outside some excellent strategy warhammer contains race and hero specific quests and some other light rpg elements
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Melandrhild: As for Dragonlance, looks very old
It is! But old school 80s, 90s vibes was much more common in, well, the 80s and 90s than today. :D
I've been looking for something similar recently. In fact, I still am. I really need something that would feel like a journey straight out of The Hobbit or Lord of the Rings, and unfortunately that's quite a tall order. In theory there's so much of "generic" high fantasy out there, but really not so much of if feels quite right.

Anyway, I'll gladly recommend what I can, and maybe others can recommend something for me.

Disciples & Disciples 2 - those are pretty dark and moody, but they are great games. I think the world is original enough to be interesting, while still close enough to all the fantasy tropes to be what you're looking for.

Heroes of Might & Magic - especially the second game, I think, feels exactly right.

King Arthur & King Arthur II - Total War in a fantasy universe. I loved the atmosphere, the combination of celtic myths and later elements of the legend, the gameplay combining Total War like battles and quests done like old-school choose your own adventure books.

Ghost of a Tale - ok, so obviously it isn't exactly the generic fantasy you're looking for, what with all the antropomorphic animals instead of the usual fantasy races, but I think it feels exactly right, and that's more important. The mood, the story and the worldbuilding are just so great, it truly is one of the best fantasy games I have ever played.

King's Bounty - if you're in the mood for something turn based, but much lighter and more cheerfull than Disciples or even HoMM.
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Maighstir: I'm slightly confused... I would consider Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale to be pretty much as vanilla-fantasy as you can get. Planescape: Torment, not so much, that obviously is heavily based on the "planes stuff".
I agree. The Baldur's Gate games are set in the most generic region of the most vanilla setting in D&D (although they are still awesome games though). I also consider Dragon Age and Elder Scrolls Oblivion/Skyrim to be set in highly generic game worlds. The Witcher not so much, it is at least low fantasy.

I find for generic CRPGs, you usually don't have to look very hard. Pick one at random and the chances are it will be quite generic (D:OS, Pillars of Eternity, King's Bounty ...). I usually have the opposite problem.
Post edited January 01, 2021 by Time4Tea
Diablo 1/2
The Temple of Elemental Evil
Betrayal at Krondor
Shadow of the Horned Rat, Dark Omen
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Time4Tea: I agree. The Baldur's Gate games are set in the most generic region of the most vanilla setting in D&D (although they are still awesome games though).
Baldur's Gate 2 includes plane-travelling (e.g. the Planar sphere, the Planar prison) and weird races like the Githyanki, imo that isn't exactly generic fantasy like the OP seems to be looking for.
And I actually find it surprisingly hard to come up with something to recommend. Betrayal at Krondor might come closest, though even that doesn't quite fit.
Regarding Drakensang: if I understand correctly, Drakensang: River of time will presumably soon come to Gog, and it's supposedly superior to the first game (haven't played either of them myself). So maybe OP should wait for that.
Post edited January 01, 2021 by morolf
Some games that come to my mind when I think of generic fantasy would include

Fantasy Wars
Heroes of Annihilated Empires
Divine Divinity
Sacred 1 or 2 (although, there are some sci-fi vibes in Sacred 2 I know with the Seraphim but it has some cool female fantasy armor)
Age of Wonders (the first game, the second and Shadow Magic)
I haven't played much of it but you may want to look at Darkstone.
Dungeon Siege games may be good for this, it's been a while since I played the first one.
Dragon's Dogma maybe but it does not have any elves or too much of an 80's or 90's vibe.
Seconding any King's Bounty game.
Just looking through my library and I apparently own Rage of Mages. Obviously, I have not played it yet but it is a fantasy game from the 90's.
Wizards & Warriors I think fits that pulp-y fantasy vibe. However, I think I caught a game breaking bug and that kind of killed it for me.
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Breja: I've been looking for something similar recently. In fact, I still am. I really need something that would feel like a journey straight out of The Hobbit or Lord of the Rings, and unfortunately that's quite a tall order. In theory there's so much of "generic" high fantasy out there, but really not so much of if feels quite right.

Anyway, I'll gladly recommend what I can, and maybe others can recommend something for me.

Disciples & Disciples 2 - those are pretty dark and moody, but they are great games. I think the world is original enough to be interesting, while still close enough to all the fantasy tropes to be what you're looking for.

Heroes of Might & Magic - especially the second game, I think, feels exactly right.

King Arthur & King Arthur II - Total War in a fantasy universe. I loved the atmosphere, the combination of celtic myths and later elements of the legend, the gameplay combining Total War like battles and quests done like old-school choose your own adventure books.

Ghost of a Tale - ok, so obviously it isn't exactly the generic fantasy you're looking for, what with all the antropomorphic animals instead of the usual fantasy races, but I think it feels exactly right, and that's more important. The mood, the story and the worldbuilding are just so great, it truly is one of the best fantasy games I have ever played.

King's Bounty - if you're in the mood for something turn based, but much lighter and more cheerfull than Disciples or even HoMM.
I'm glad you see what I mean !
Disciples games is a great suggestion, I happen to own the first one here on GoG :)
I also just bought HoMM2 following your advice since it's on sale <3
Ghost of a Tale...My husband bought it to me a long ao, when it was on development. I need to try again, from what I remember I may agree with you on the atmosphere.
I also own King's Bounty game, the one with a princess as protagonist, would be fun to try them again !

Thanks for all the great suggestions :)
Ever since I played it for the first time I've considered TES: Oblivion to be the epitome of "generic high fantasy", so there you have it.

Also, Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning is THE generic fairytale fantasy game.


PS. If it's an older game you are looking for, I think you should check out "Nox" - the story arc in it is pretty much designed to be as "generic fantasy" as possible.
Post edited January 01, 2021 by OptimalBreez