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Breja: And you? Are you fighting people who criticise chinese censorship on every forum out there? Are you winning?
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XYCat: I'm not fighting them on any forum, so I'm not winning, sorry :D
You seem to be a very confused person.

Or a troll.

In fact, you seem to be a troll I confused for a person.
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XYCat: I'm not fighting them on any forum, so I'm not winning, sorry :D
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Breja: You seem to be a very confused person.

Or a troll.

In fact, you seem to be a troll I confused for a person.
Definitely :D I'm not even human, like you said
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XYCat: Ah, awsome, so how goes the war against China on steam? Are you winning?
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Shendue: I don't know because I'm not at war with China. I don't recall having an army.
But I'm rather sure I'm entitled to have an opinion.
And you? How is it going not having one? Must feel liberating.
Nobody's denying you your entitlement. I'll be happy to read your opinions when one day you present some :D
Post edited January 16, 2021 by XYCat
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Breja: You seem to be a very confused person.

Or a troll.

In fact, you seem to be a troll I confused for a person.
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XYCat: Definitely :D I'm not even human, like you said
Not quite how I meant it... guess I'll get another ban now :D Ah well, not much of a loss, if even old time users like you are goin all troll-fu.
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Lord_Kane: I am not angry that GOG didn't release Devotion.
I am angry that GOG lied about it and instead of being honest about it "hey we did this because we didnt want to risk the chinese market blah blah" they tried to pass it off as "many gamers told us" which is complete and utter bullshit.

They were going to lose people anyways, and I wish people got this mad at Steam when they pulled the same shit.
but they didn't

I am not going to boycott gog though, just reduce my spending here for a time.
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Shendue: I guess people expected it from Steam more because they are already considered not much pro-consumer with their policies to start with. Isn't GOG's whole schtick to be different and more pro-consumer alternative?
Also, I've read somewhere it's actually the developers that decide to retire the game from Steam?
The whole situation was a bit unclear and they probably did a good job to make the whole thing very quiet. Also, Steam doesn't have that much of a community, it's just people writing random stuff on message boards, unlike GOG here, that has a proper forum with a stronger sense of community.
You cannot really campaign against an abuse if you don't evrn realize it exists in first place, can you?
But once you are aware of it, is it wrong to complain with something you find disturbing?
Two wrongs don't make a right. If you shoot a guy it's not like I can't call you homicidal because there's plenty of other people shooting too.
1. It is. but I didnt exactly buy that from the start as the end of the day gog is a company, but its drm-free nature attracted me, not its mission statement.

2. I heard that too, but that is not the narrative that gets spread either about it there is little clear information about it. as is the standard with anything dealing with China.

3. Yes, you are right here too gogs community is stronger.

4. I am campaigning in the way that makes the most sense to me, I don't view boycotts as effective so I dont do them.

5. I never said you cannot complain did I? you do you, if you want to boycott GOG go ahead, I wont stop you or tell you what to do, you do what you feel is right.

6. you are implying I agree with GOG, I don't. I am just handling it in the way that makes sense to me.

I was more in general stating how people didnt rally against steam, sorry if my statement caused confusion.


Also I love how the downvote force is out. hi guys, need some coffee?
Post edited January 16, 2021 by Lord_Kane
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All the posts are low rated. LOL.
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M3troid: All the posts are low rated. LOL.
I wish we could downvote existence
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I came here just to get downvoted! :D
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Breja: In fact, you seem to be a troll I confused for a person.
You sound like a character from a video game
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Breja: In fact, you seem to be a troll I confused for a person.
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GeraltOfRivia_PL: You sound like a character from a video game
How appropriate, you sound like cow.
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GeraltOfRivia_PL: While i agree it's not very nice - what do you expect them to do, really?
I expect them to have "honest and direct communication with gamers", unlike what they had in Devotion case.
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Nice one, "gamers".
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GeraltOfRivia_PL: - what do you expect them to do, really?
It's real simple: I expect them to release Devotion.

And also I expect them to apologize profusely & publicly for:

a) banning it in the first place and

b) lying about the reason why they did so and

c) deliberately ignoring the crisis for over a month (or two, or three, or four, or six, or twelve...or however long it will take before they finally find some courage and address it with openness and honesty and 100% full disclosure & transparency).

And your OP contains many false premises, i.e:

- assuming that every person in and/or from China supports the CCP --- that's not true. Many of them hate it and want it abolished.

- assuming that every person in and/or from China wants to ban Devotion. That's also not true. Many of them don't, and many of them don't know Devotion exists...and of those that don't, almost none would want it to be banned even if they did later come to know it exists.

- assuming that GOG isn't losing money via their decision to ban Devotion (and their accompanying decision to lie about the reason why they did so, and scapegoat it onto the fictional fabrication "many messages from gamers"). That's also not true.

GOG is losing tons of money already as a result of having done that...both from long-time GOG customers who will either now boycott GOG entirely, and also those will buy from GOG much less often now.

And in addition to that, GOG is losing tons of money from the literally hundreds of thousands of potential customers who GOG desperately wants to win over...all of whom universally condemn GOG over this matter, as it was exposed to them by huge youtubers with 800,000 to 1 million plus subscribers.

These are the very same consumers that GOG is bending over backwards to lure onto the GOG platform with Galaxy 2.0...which GOG probably spent millions of dollars on making features for it that GOG's actual customers don't care one iota about (i.e. putting all of your DRM-ed games under one launcher which also then launches the DRM-launchers too, LOL).

So, the point being, GOG's decision to ban Devotion is devastating their financial situation, not helping it (like your OP is incorrectly claiming)...and it's also limiting their growth potential via all the hundreds of thousands of non-customers who they've alienated via banning Devotion and who now aren't ever going to become customers.
Post edited January 16, 2021 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
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GeraltOfRivia_PL: While i agree it's not very nice - what do you expect them to do, really?
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Adoru: I expect them to have "honest and direct communication with gamers", unlike what they had in Devotion case.
Technically GoG already did comply with the "direct communication with gamers" part when they received those "many messages" directly from "gamers", didn't they...
Remains to be seen if they're also going to satisfy the "honest" part.
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I get the feeling "many gamers" (CCP bots) disapprove of this thread
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Uhm...not sure if trolls or Xi Jinping using multiple accounts.